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Do you believe in God?[W:359]

Do you believe in God?


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Re: Do you believe in God?

I personally don't believe you can be a little agnostic, you are or your not but if that makes you feel better in the long run fine......God sent down the 10 commandments I notice no mention of them in your beliefs........It sure makes it a lot easier if a sort of Agnostic doest not have to worry about them..........

The 10 Commandments are, for the most part, good guidelines. Most of them make plenty of sense and make good rules. Those that I agree with, I follow.

But don't get up on any high horse with me and pretend that you never break the 10 Commandments.
 
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Well I believe in the same God that a billion Catholics believe in....In fact one of the greatest days of my life is when myself and several of my shipmates who were Catholic had and audience with Pope Pius the Twelfth and got his blessing.........Personally I could care less what you believe about me in your attacks......I wish you well.-

I'm totally okay with you not caring what I believe, and in fact understand you cannot possibly do so....this is not an issue. The fact you want ME to accept your personal faith.....IS.


After six years watching your world though...I understand nothing will change, and I am going to your version of Hell, I'm okay with that.

From what I understand....you won't be there!
 
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...I understand nothing will change, and I am going to your version of Hell, I'm okay with that.
For all of you in this thread, I can assure you that hell is exists. I've been there, it's a real place on this earth, and it's located between pakistan and iran.
 
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For all of you in this thread, I can assure you that hell is exists. I've been there, it's a real place on this earth, and it's located between pakistan and iran.

Oh now see, I was going to make a joke about hell being with the inlaws, but I cannot now. I would feel terrible for comparing the inlaws with being in Afghanistan.
 
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As is reality of most of the Bible(s)....it has co-opted from history...(see Noah, Eden, Revolations,....etc...):

"Ma'at : origin of the 10 commandments

The principles of Maat (Ma'at) is what has been used in order to come up with the bible's 10 commandments. wThe admonitions of Maat (also known as the negative confession), was originally written in the ancestral language called Medu Neter. Below is a simplified translation:

I have not done iniquity.
I have not robbed with violence.
I have not stolen.
I have not made any to suffer pain.
I have not defrauded offerings.
I have done no murder nor bid anyone to slay on my behalf.
I have not trimmed the measure.
I have not spoken lies I have not robbed God.
I have not caused the shedding of tears.
I have not dealt deceitfully.
I have not acted guilefully.
I have not laid waste to the land.
I have not set my lips against anyone.
I have not been angry or wrathful without a just cause.
I have not lusted nor defiled the wife of any man.
I have not polluted myself.
I have not caused terror.
I have not done that which is abominable.
I have not multiplied words exceedingly.
I have never uttered fiery words.
I have not judged hastily.
I have not transgressed nor have I vexed or angered God.
I have not stopped my ears against the words of Right and Truth .
I have not burned with rage.
I have not worked grief.
I have not acted with insolence.
I have not avenged myself.
I have not stirred up strife.
I have not been an eavesdropper.
I have not wronged the people
I have done no harm nor have I done evil
I have not worked treason.
I have never fouled the water.
I have not spoken scornfully.
I have never cursed God.
I have not behaved with arrogance.
I have not envied or craved for that which belongs to another.
I have not filched food from the mouth of the infant.
I have done no hurt unto man, nor wrought harm unto beasts.
I have never magnified my condition beyond what was fitting."
 
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Simply put.

I believe that there may very well be a god.

What is not impossible is of course possible.

HOWEVER.

I do not believe that the god as described in the Bible exists.

Of all the holy texts there has ever been, of all the gods humanity has come up with since the dawn of time, there's simply no way that the bible, written by men, is the true story of god and the creation of the universe.

It is folly.

Sorry if I offend anyone but I'm just being honest.
 
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I believe Moses got 10 commandments the same way I believe Joesph Smith got golden plates to translate.

One thing I have noticed is while heaven is described as a place of milk and honey, the great reward, where all are perfect in His sight, most self identified Christians are none too eager to enter the Pearly Gates a second faster than they can help. They cling to this life as hard as the average atheist.

When I read the initial question I wondered if NP was baiting. He seemed blind to any other complex concept other than the one he used multiple posts to define.

His apparently a black and white world, and he is welcome to it. Just think it odd an American can't look at other nation's laws and societies for inspiration but can look to a foreign potentate for spiritual guidance. :confused:

I am now agnostic.
 
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Christians, Jews and Muslims all believe in the same God.....The question was correct and simple.......Its a yes or a no. It seems there are a lot of people coping out on the question and that is sad....

Not even all christians believe in the same god. Hell, not even those of the same sect of christianity believe in the same god.
 
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Like I have said many times there are many people who believed in God as a young person and turned to atheism because of a lack of faith but when push comes to shove on their deathbed they become a believer again.

I seriously doubt that.
 
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I do not believe in any god or God. I do have a strong sense of morality and code of ethics, but I would not say that they stem from any one religion.

Where would you say they stem from?
 
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Where would you say they stem from?

They stem from our society. There is no direct correlation between faith and morality, you may disagree, but there simply isn't. You could take a christian and an atheist, and send them back in time 30 or 40 thousand years, and they would be jumping from trees and bashing people's heads in with rocks. Evolution is slow, while the evolution of a society is quite fast.

It is our society that enforces morality.
 
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I most likely do not believe in your god(s)

If that is for me I have only one God...He is made up of the Blessed Trinity though. It would take me a while to explain that to and atheist like you though.
 
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it is a shame to get over thirty "Likes" of my posts and yet only get 18 people to vote yes.
 
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Atheists don't believe in ANY Gawd, not just the one you believe in. You sling terms around like a drunken sailor does his money.

An old man or woman on their deathbed, 'coming' back to Gawd isn't a convincing argument. More like someone grasping at straws.

You take a lot on faith, to include a lot of your 'facts'
 
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Where would you say they stem from?

"We may speculate about origins, but all that this will reveal will be our hidden view of humanity. The ideas that we end up with will reflect whether we think of humanity as descended from noble savages, or from degenerate outcasts from Eden, or from anything else.

Is there any way of approaching the puzzle that does not depend on imagination? Yes. We can resort to empiricism. We can analyse ourself and see and feel how morality is generated in ourself. When we analyse ourself, what we are primarily doing is analysing the subconscious mind to find out how it works and how it affects us.
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Understanding the dynamics of the subconscious mind enables the origin of morality to be discovered.

Changes in Terminology

Before proceeding on the analysis of this origin I need to make a distinction here. There are three ways to cultivate a set of standards that we use to shape and govern our path through life. To give a name to each of these ways, I use the terms "morality", "virtue", and "ethics". However, my use of these terms is different from their traditional usage.

I need to make changes in traditional terminology.

I denote morality and virtues to be standards of behaviour that are adopted through learning by example (rather than by adopting standards through a process of intellectual analysis of the choices available).

I define virtues.
Virtues are noble attitudes that spring from the heart.

This view of virtues means that they should be easy to apply. But it is not easy to explain what they are. In effect, virtues are based on feelings and so are non-linguistic. The person may ‘explain’ his approach to life by saying that he prefers to follow the dictates of his heart. This approach can be viewed as being similar to ‘situation ethics’, where the person’s response to any situation depends upon a spontaneous inclination.

I define morality.
Morality is a linguistic product made into a social practice.

A morality in any age is the sum of socially-accepted desires and values in that age. These values are a part of language; they can be articulated and so can be made the object of rational analysis. [¹]
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Society creates Morality

Society is more than a collection of people ; it is a set of communal values and individual meanings. I consider values to be objective, and meanings to be subjective. I use this opposition of objectivity and subjectivity to denote the process whereby subjective criteria are created first within the imaginative person, and then become objective criteria once they are shared among the community. [²]

The set of communal values represents the contemporary state of morality, whilst the set of individual meanings represents the state of desired virtues. Language contains traditional values – this is what is implied in the ideas of social conditioning and socialisation. Language is the repository of values but not of meanings.

Morality centres on language, virtue on consciousness.

When any value is postulated to reside in language then its final activity is to become absorbed into morality (or possibly aesthetics). When meaning is postulated to lie outside of language then its terminus is virtue.
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As an example, consider the 1960s in America and Britain. This period saw the flowering of the hippie generation. New virtues arose from the attempts to create a new non-materialistic consciousness. The initial inability to articulate the new feelings and attitudes led to a dependency on catch-phrases. Eventually, some virtues became articulated so they passed into the store of social values, whilst other virtues were abandoned.

As an example of how the inability to articulate feelings produces unforeseen effects, consider the illegal drug culture of modern times. It has left a residue of fear : such drugs are feared by the general population because their psychological effects still cannot be adequately articulated (this is due to current models of consciousness being inadequate).

The purpose of making this distinction between virtue and morality is to suggest how new standards, which first appear as subjective inclinations, pass into society as objective preferences. As society changes, new standards always arise first in individuals, and then, if needed, become absorbed into society as new social standards. In human evolution, new subjectivities always arise before new objectivities. Subjectivity always precedes objectivity.

Ethics is the stage beyond morality and virtue.
I consider ethics to be the way of adopting standards through a process of intellectual analysis of the choices available. When intellectual and critical thought (within the framework of psychological awareness) is applied to morality and virtue, so that they can be analysed and self-deception removed, then morality transforms into a social ethics and virtue becomes an ethics of individuality."

Morality and its Origins

But, don't let Data cloud your faith......
 
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NP- you got ZERO, I say again NO likes to your posts, many to other people's posts and a person can like more than one post in a thread so more than likely a few liked a lot of different posts, NONE of which are yours.

You seem farther off your usual logic loop today, are you ok?
 
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The 10 Commandments are, for the most part, good guidelines. Most of them make plenty of sense and make good rules. Those that I agree with, I follow.

But don't get up on any high horse with me and pretend that you never break the 10 Commandments.

Of course I do.sadly I am imperfect and there was only one perfect man ever........Tell me which ones do you not agree with?
 
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it is a shame to get over thirty "Likes" of my posts and yet only get 18 people to vote yes.

Like does not mean agree.
 
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Of course I do.sadly I am imperfect and there was only one perfect man ever........Tell me which ones do you not agree with?
Actually, Jesus recognized that he was human, and as such was imperfect. Read the bible much?
 
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A matter of anyone's faith......If you have faith you will believe without seeing...If you don't you won't....

But your faith in Jesus and the Holy Trinity is your faith.

Another person can easily have faith in some other religious beliefs. That doesn't mean that they don't have faith. It just means they don't have faith in the same things you do.
 
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I wish some of you lefties could put aside your hatred of me for just a moment and address the poll.....It is wrong to vote no just because you hate me........Pretend its Redress who started this poll..thank you.
 
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