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Would you go to war to defend the USA?

Would you go to war to defend the USA? (Americans only, please)


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Presuming you are an American, would you go to war to defend the USA?

Absolutely. I'd even do it for free, provided they look the other way when I take my spoils. Unfortunately, there's always that BF that has to play by the book.
 
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If another country fired a shot first I would be all up in that ass. The wars we have been in the past 10+ years have been kind of grey. Like if North Korea, China, and Iran formed some kind of axis of asshole, then I certainly would. I almost signed up twice before but the thoughts of how being a child when my dad was in Honduras as a child and how it effected me, or how me going to war would effect and stress my already totally stressed mother were big reasons why I did not. I know it takes a lot to go to these places, but I've known guys from school that were total ******s in high school, and I could still beat them in a wrasslin' match when they came back from a tour, so it has nothing to do with how much of a billy badass I am, more to do with how much I am afraid of women.
 
This US? I very seriously doubt it.

I'm not very fond of war to begin with. If you were to break down the historical wars I would have been involved with, it would look a lot like TheDemSocialist's. Wouldn't touch most of 'em with a 10-foot pole. Some of them I think were just flat-out wrong. A small minority were worth fighting.

So I'm pretty difficult to convince on the matter of war to begin with. I need a very good reason to go kill a bunch of people, most of whom had absolutely nothing to do with the problem in the first place (and, depending on who we're fighting, who might not even be there voluntarily).

On top of that, this particular America doesn't value me, or just about anyone else who isn't in the upper echelons, in the least. We frankly have it coming. I remain here primarily because I have been unsuccessful at emigrating permanently, and secondarily because I am still hoping it's not too late to turn this Titanic around.

My being American is an accident of birth. Said accident does not instantly obligate me to do jack.
 
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This US? I very seriously doubt it.

I'm not very fond of war to begin with. If you were to break down the historical wars I would have been involved with, it would look a lot like TheDemSocialist's. Wouldn't touch most of 'em with a 10-foot pole. Some of them I think were just flat-out wrong. A small minority were worth fighting.

So I'm pretty difficult to convince on the matter of war to begin with. I need a very good reason to go kill a bunch of people, most of whom had absolutely nothing to do with the problem in the first place (and, depending on who we're fighting, who might not even be there voluntarily).

On top of that, this particular America doesn't value me, or just about anyone else who isn't in the upper echelons, in the least. We frankly have it coming. I remain here primarily because I have been unsuccessful at emigrating permanently, and secondarily because I am still hoping it's not too late to turn this Titanic around.

My being American is an accident of birth. Said accident does not instantly obligate me to do jack.

So...then you just posted to post. Good job.
 
You missed the wars in Yugoslavia, just sayin'. :)
You are right, "defend" is a loose word now that can excuse almost anything. :) It shouldn't be like that.

yugoslavia wasnt anybody's problem ,it wasnt as important as syria..
 
yugoslavia wasnt anybody's problem ,it wasnt as important as syria..

Really, didn't uncle Sam bomb Serbia in 1999 for whatever reasons?
Syria is another business but I don't think it would be a defence war for America.
 
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Can't answer the original question as it's way to open-ended and vague.

The only possible response on the poll, if no other options are added, and no more clarification to the original question is provided, is the "I don't know" option.
 
The State makes it possible for you to live a life relatively free from foreign incursion and invasion, and tries to keep order so that commerce and prosperity and normal life are possible. Also, your State contains your family, neighbors, friends, acquantainces, business associates, customers.... in essense it is your HOME, and if you won't defend your home you have no business taking part in governing it. Frankly I think claiming the legal protection of a State and at the same time refusing to defend it against foreign aggression is a hypocritical or cowardly position.
I'm not just claiming the legal protection of a State, I'm paying for it.
 
If another country fired a shot first I would be all up in that ass. The wars we have been in the past 10+ years have been kind of grey. Like if North Korea, China, and Iran formed some kind of axis of asshole, then I certainly would.

Frankly, we haven't been involved in a legitimate war since Korea.
 
Presuming you are an American, would you go to war to defend the USA?

Are you American? What is the context of your question? Are we talking about an invasion of the 50 states?
 
This US? I very seriously doubt it.

I'm not very fond of war to begin with. If you were to break down the historical wars I would have been involved with, it would look a lot like TheDemSocialist's. Wouldn't touch most of 'em with a 10-foot pole. Some of them I think were just flat-out wrong. A small minority were worth fighting.

So I'm pretty difficult to convince on the matter of war to begin with. I need a very good reason to go kill a bunch of people, most of whom had absolutely nothing to do with the problem in the first place (and, depending on who we're fighting, who might not even be there voluntarily).

On top of that, this particular America doesn't value me, or just about anyone else who isn't in the upper echelons, in the least. We frankly have it coming. I remain here primarily because I have been unsuccessful at emigrating permanently, and secondarily because I am still hoping it's not too late to turn this Titanic around.

My being American is an accident of birth. Said accident does not instantly obligate me to do jack.
Whenever I hear sentiments like this I translate them as, "As much as I hate it here, I've looked, and no place else is better.". At least not better enough to make one get up and do it.
 
In terms of defending against an invasion or attack, absolutely will defend. Offensive attacks in the name of whatever, then no. Of course if you're already serving you don't have a choice in the matter. You go.
 
Whenever I hear sentiments like this I translate them as, "As much as I hate it here, I've looked, and no place else is better.". At least not better enough to make one get up and do it.

You're hearing incorrectly (more particularly, you're hearing whatever you want to hear to justify your own opinion and discount anyone else's). What you should hear is "The emigration process is difficult, and lacking either family or a particularly in demand degree, it is sometimes impossible."

I got up and attempted to do it twice.
 
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Are you American?

No.

What is the context of your question?

Well, I was thinking, in a case of emergency, how many Americans would defend the USA as it is, if that matters at all. Apparently, the question was too broad to answer. :)

Are we talking about an invasion of the 50 states?

Invasion of American soil, mostly. I don't buy into the "this dictator 10 000 miles away is an insult for the USA, so we're gonna knock him down" story.
 
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You're hearing incorrectly (more particularly, you're hearing whatever you want to hear to justify your own opinion and discount anyone else's). What you should hear is "The emigration process is difficult, and lacking either family or a particularly in demand degree, it is sometimes impossible."

I got up and attempted to do it twice.
Where did you want to go? What held you back?
 
If the United States was threatened by invasion then yes. Other than that it depends.
 
If the United States was threatened by invasion then yes. Other than that it depends.

All it would take is a threat?

So it's justifiable for plenty of countries to attack the USofA based on the fact that "we've" threatened them?

Is that right?
 
All it would take is a threat?

So it's justifiable for plenty of countries to attack the USofA based on the fact that "we've" threatened them?

Is that right?

Yes, if the United States was threatened by an invasion (which is not the same thing as threatened with an invasion) then I would enlist to defend my country.
 
Yes, if the United States was threatened by an invasion
(which is not the same thing as threatened with an invasion)
then I would enlist to defend my country.

And that difference would be what exactly?

threatened by vs threatened with ?
 
Frankly, we haven't been involved in a legitimate war since Korea.

Korea wasnt a legitimate war. It was us being the police men of the world.
 
well that's the real breakdown, isn't it? We've been at war for almost 11 years now. I'd say those who are willing to go, with the exception of those who can't, have.

The current war is not a defensive war. Regardless of whatever your views about it's value and validity are, it's definitely not defensive.
 
When I enlisted, I was not asked if I would fight for my country under certain circumstances. I was asked if I would fight for my country if I was ordered to. The answer was yes. If we are at war, no matter the reason, serving your country is a good thing. If you are already in the service, you have limited options to protest the war or push for peace, but you do have options and can use them. I opposed Iraq(the second one, the first one my opinion has evolved and I served in it) but I supported not just our troops, but hoped they would win and do so in the best possible way. If I had served during Iraq(still the second one) I would have still opposed the war, but would have taken pride in serving my country in war.
 
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