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Racism in the USA will probably never go away. Agree/Disagree

Racism in the USA will probably never go away. Agree/Disagree

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Luna Tick said:
Racism in the USA will probably never go away. Agree/Disagree
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Unfortunately, racism (or should I say territorialism) was tattooed upon the human soul long before the advent of conventional moral precepts and modern social ideologies. 500,000 years ago (and so much more), when technology was very crude and natural resources seemingly scarce and thus violently and vehemently pursued and defended, there was enormous survival value in making very rapid cognitive distinctions between those who are of your clan and those who are not. Those who in anyway appeared different than one's own kind were to be feared and defended against possible encroachment. This was the genesis of what we now deem "racism" and it remains with us to this very day, and will continue to haunt us for as long as we are human in any contemporary understanding of what it means to be human.
 
I voted Agree for reasons already enumerated in this thread.

Parrish said:
Hate is never a good thing.
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Why not? There are no exceptions, period?
 
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Parrish said:
Hate is never a good thing. What an absurd statement.
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Do you not hate child rapists? How about people who abuse the elderly?

Do you hate anyone?
 
I guess Yoda and I will have to disagree. :)
 
Sig said:
Unfortunately, racism (or should I say territorialism) was tattooed upon the human soul long before the advent of conventional moral precepts and modern social ideologies. 500,000 years ago (and so much more), when technology was very crude and natural resources seemingly scarce and thus violently and vehemently pursued and defended, there was enormous survival value in making very rapid cognitive distinctions between those who are of your clan and those who are not. Those who in anyway appeared different than one's own kind were to be feared and defended against possible encroachment. This was the genesis of what we now deem "racism" and it remains with us to this very day, and will continue to haunt us for as long as we are human in any contemporary understanding of what it means to be human.
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That is exactly what I suspect to be the case. I don't think racism is so much taught as it is "unlearned" through experience and teaching. It's not just race, but anything that we see as a difference between ourselves and *others*. I can remember when I was a small child, being afraid of the first black person I recall seeing. My mother had to teach me that the difference was in skin color, and that we are all the same on the inside. I was about three years old at the time. Unfortunately, some kids don't have parents who will teach them these things, so the fearful behavior is allowed to grow into hatred.

I can't think of anyone whom I hate. There are people that I don't want to hang out with, because they are jerks, but hatred is something that I would reserve only for someone who tried to harm me or mine personally.
 
I think if you have Liberals like Sharpton and Jackson always playing the race card sadly racism will never completely go away................
 
Navy Pride said:
I think if you have Liberals like Sharpton and Jackson always playing the race card sadly racism will never completely go away................
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The prevalence and continuation of racism in modern-day society has absolutely nothing to do with Liberal civil rights activists, nor does it have much to do with playing the race card in general; the question actually had more to do with whether or not racism is a fundamental aspect of human nature.
 
StillBallin75 said:
No.

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Maybe you call it by another name Still.....whats the definition of hate anyway....loathing....I loathe pedophilles and I had the unpleasant task of having to be around more than I cared to be....I loathe Women beaters and abusers and child abusers, I loathe rapists and serial killers and murderes....ive seen some of the worst of the worst...and if I cant say I hated them...then i need to find another descriptive word that means the same thing....I think hate is a feeling and a word....you can put those same feelings in context with a substitute word....
 
JustinS said:
The prevalence and continuation of racism in modern-day society has absolutely nothing to do with Liberal civil rights activists, nor does it have much to do with playing the race card in general; the question actually had more to do with whether or not racism is a fundamental aspect of human nature.
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It doesn't huh? Did youi see Sharpton and Jackson in Florida stirring up the black people........Give me a break......As long as people like them are leaders in the democratic party you will always have racism...
 
Realistically, probably not.

Certainly not the underlying cause of racism - human tendency to stereotype and judge individuals based on appearance. That will never go away. Unfortunately prejudice is a survival tool ingrained into our cognitive function through millions of years of evolution.

That isn't to say it's not a bad thing or that we shouldn't/can't try to limit its impact.
 
Navy Pride said:
It doesn't huh? Did youi see Sharpton and Jackson in Florida stirring up the black people........Give me a break......As long as people like them are leaders in the democratic party you will always have racism...
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Since when was the existence of racism across the entire national community dependent on the leaders of the Democratic Party?
 
Racism will never completely end, but it will diminish greatly as racial minorities start to fit in more evenly across different socio-economic classes. That won't end our problems though, since people will just find different ways to hate on each other. Overt racism will be replaced with different forms of classism, in my opinion. In a lot of ways, racism is already on the decline in the U.S. But rich people still hate on poor people--even if they are of the same race.

To me, this has always been the big trick--rich people hate poor people and need a reason to turn them against one another--Race has always been the easiest way to do that. If poor whites think of themselves as "white", then they won't even notice that they are being treated as second-class citizens so long as blacks and other minorities are threated like third-class citizens. Poor whites think of themselves as really being part of the same history as rich whites and so see themselves as somehow different than poor blacks--even though they've been oppressed, they don't think of it that way as long as they get to vent their frustrations out on minorities. To a certain extent--in the older generation--this kind of thing hasn't changed.

Young folks these days get it, though. Poor whites and poor blacks live together in many places in the U.S., particularly in rural and suburban areas. Those kids grow up with the same struggles and stigmas and will end up generating an entirely different kind of culture--a hybrid culture full of little beige babies that will inevitably think of race in ways that are very different than people have in the past.
 
It will never go away... We will always have uneducated, unenlightened and stupid people, unfortunately.
 
Res Cogitans said:
Racism will never completely end, but it will diminish greatly as racial minorities start to fit in more evenly across different socio-economic classes. That won't end our problems though, since people will just find different ways to hate on each other. Overt racism will be replaced with different forms of classism, in my opinion. In a lot of ways, racism is already on the decline in the U.S. But rich people still hate on poor people--even if they are of the same race.
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Yet it is the poor people loitering on public grounds with effigies of hanged rich people. Thats not hate... no way... :roll:
 
Caine said:
Yet it is the poor people loitering on public grounds with effigies of hanged rich people. Thats not hate... no way... :roll:
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Read the whole quote and try to think before you respond. The point of the paragraph you quoted was that even if and when racism diminishes, that hate isn't going anywhere and will simply be transformed in other ways. That is what I meant by "overt racism will be replaced with different forms of classism." I'd figure that you MUST have noticed that since it was in the quote that you excerpted from my post. Hanging rich folks in effigy would obviously be one of those forms of classism.

I emphasized rich people hating on poor people because that is, in my opinion, linked to the prevalence and persistence of racism--which is, by the way, the topic of this thread. If you would bother to read the whole post and think about it, this would be obvious to you.
 
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Erod said:
Racism will never end so long as people need an excuse for their personal failures. Playing the victim is easier than looking in the mirror.
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I feel like there is something interesting happening here. Be more specific about who you are talking about.
 
There may be some confusion as to the difference that Racism will always be wide spread and there will always be racists. My belief is racism will dimininsh in society as a whole not today not tomorrow but eventually...but there will continue to always be racists of all persuasions.
 
JustinS said:
Since when was the existence of racism across the entire national community dependent on the leaders of the Democratic Party?
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The leaders of the democratic party play the race card to get the minority vote.....
 
Navy Pride said:
I think if you have Liberals like Sharpton and Jackson always playing the race card sadly racism will never completely go away................
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And, are you implying that only the "coloreds" practice racism ?
I think that you would be happier , if some honesty were practiced.
"Whitey's" racism is far more effective (wealth and numbers), and its dishonest to pretend that it exists not.
This concept of human territorialism - most interesting...
Then the forced "race mixing" creates racism ?
This could well be..
We do need a better people.
 
Caine said:
Yet it is the poor people loitering on public grounds with effigies of hanged rich people. Thats not hate... no way... :roll:
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Yes!
The poor have no right being on "public grounds", this for the property of the wealthy. And they have to right to protest, after all, its the rich who prevent them from starving !
For this they should be grateful.
And, of course, its only the poor who hate...
 
earthworm said:
Yes!
The poor have no right being on "public grounds", this for the property of the wealthy. And they have to right to protest, after all, its the rich who prevent them from starving !
For this they should be grateful.
And, of course, its only the poor who hate...
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I never claimed it was only the poor who hate.

The poster I was replying to claimed it was the rich who are hate the poor, the poor who have done no wrong.

Im sorry, but ignoring the poor, vs. hanging effigies of the rich.

I'd say hanging shows more hate than ignoring.
 
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