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Is the nobel peace prize a joke?

Is the nobel peace prize a joke?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 78.7%

  • no

    Votes: 10 21.3%
  • Total voters
    47
friday said:
Krugman won a Nobel Prize for economics, and he has to be the worst economist in existence.
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...he says without a clue. What on earth would compel you to say such a ridiculous thing?

I'd bet you a crisp new hundred dollar bill you don't even know what Krugman worked on to get his Nobel Prize.
 
Hatuey said:
You keep proving the point people have made. Can you name 10 other Nobel Peace Prize winners off the top of your head without looking it up? I'll be dollars to dirt that you can't. Tell me how the voting process changed in ANY discernible way in 2008? Better yet, can you tell us what changed between the person who received it in 2008 and 2007? Were new people brought in to vote?
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What point am I proving, Hat?
 
RadicalModerate said:
...he says without a clue. What on earth would compel you to say such a ridiculous thing?

I'd bet you a crisp new hundred dollar bill you don't even know what Krugman worked on to get his Nobel Prize.
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Wasn't it foreign trade?

Krugman's problem is that he is a slave to tired economic formulas that have very little to do with reality.
 
RadicalModerate said:
Looking over it's entire history, I think it's a worthy prize mostly given to worthy people. Lots of really amazing people have earned money to further their projects or campaigns. I think a lot of wonderful humanitarian work been furthered by the Nobel fund by and large. Yeah, the committee went totally political went in 2008 when it gave BO the prize. And, sure, maybe Yassar Arafat wasn't a great choice, either (don't harp on me about Arafat; I don't know much about Palestine/Israel).

But looking through all the winners since 1901, I can't help overlook a few miscalculations and see the bigger picture. The Nobel prize is a pretty good thing, I'd say.

I'm expecting some pretty bitter comments regarding this issue...
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Overall, I might have to agree with you, but certainly not lately.
 
To OP, NO!!!!

Conservative's will agree and just say something along the lines of liberal bias. Just look up and notice the trends guys/gals...
 
RadicalModerate said:
...he says without a clue. What on earth would compel you to say such a ridiculous thing?

I'd bet you a crisp new hundred dollar bill you don't even know what Krugman worked on to get his Nobel Prize.
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Ok. I've earned that hundred dollar bill, but let me explain further on the problem with Krugman. He sees the economy in charts and graphs. When the economy is tanking, his charts and graphs tell him that incredible amounts of debt spending will bring about recovery. All other things being equal, he might be right. After all, it is an injection of capital into the economy. The problem is, all other things are not equal. His brand of economics spooked investors with insurmountable, ridiculous levels of debt and an economy completely supported by unsustainable government spending, and simply throwing money at unsustainable projects has resulted in three years of stagnation when we should be at least two years into a recovery. And then you have examples of his charts and graphs mentality being taken to absurdity, like when he said that what we really need is an invasion from Mars to get our economy working again. Yes, that would work on a supply demand chart with all other things being equal.

Yes, Krugman is one of the dumbest economists in existence.
 
99percenter said:
Yassar Arafat won one. Obama won one before doing anything. Gandhi never won one.
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if obama got one for getting elected,and ghandi couldnt get one,i do consider it a joke,there are too many worthy of it who did more for the world than simply getting elected as president.
 
hazlnut said:
He ran for president and won.

In a country that, not even a half-century ago, allowed blacks to be segregated from whites.

Our country has a long sad history of violent bigotry and mistreatment of minorities, especially blacks.

His accomplishment of winning a presidential election is major. We've finally caught up to the 20th Century.

Ghandi should have one.
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Obama won the presidency because he was black not despite being black

That doesn't merit a nobel peace prize. That is a joke
 
friday said:
Ok. I've earned that hundred dollar bill, but let me explain further on the problem with Krugman.
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I'm pretty sure Google earned that $100, but whatever...

He sees the economy in charts and graphs.
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Lol, all economists do. They're called models, and they are a basic economic tool.

When the economy is tanking, his charts and graphs tell him that incredible amounts of debt spending will bring about recovery.
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In a demand economy, sustainable recoveries from recessions start from the bottom; people buying more products and services, stimulating suppliers to respond to demand. Where that money comes from is what the debate it about. Krugman and other Keynesians argue that government can help shorten recessions by injecting money into the economy through periodic spending. That spending can come in many forms; infrastructure projects, direct rebates to taxpayers, indirect tax breaks, etc. Of course, TANSTAAFL, so while short-term effects can help, the long term effects on debt and inflation require careful planning and currency regulation.

All other things being equal, he might be right. After all, it is an injection of capital into the economy. The problem is, all other things are not equal. His brand of economics spooked investors with insurmountable, ridiculous levels of debt and an economy completely supported by unsustainable government spending, and simply throwing money at unsustainable projects has resulted in three years of stagnation when we should be at least two years into a recovery.
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You'd be right if the entire federal debt was because of his policies. Unfortunately for your argument, the majority of the current deficit comes from the Bush tax breaks and the Iraq War; hardly something that can be placed at Krugman's feet. I can't say I agree with him on everything involving the US debt, but he knows there is a certain limit to debt.

And then you have examples of his charts and graphs mentality being taken to absurdity, like when he said that what we really need is an invasion from Mars to get our economy working again. Yes, that would work on a supply demand chart with all other things being equal.
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Again, charts are an economists best friend.

Yes, Krugman is one of the dumbest economists in existence.
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Still no.
 
friday said:
Ok. I've earned that hundred dollar bill, but let me explain further on the problem with Krugman. He sees the economy in charts and graphs. When the economy is tanking, his charts and graphs tell him that incredible amounts of debt spending will bring about recovery. All other things being equal, he might be right. After all, it is an injection of capital into the economy. The problem is, all other things are not equal. His brand of economics spooked investors with insurmountable, ridiculous levels of debt and an economy completely supported by unsustainable government spending, and simply throwing money at unsustainable projects has resulted in three years of stagnation when we should be at least two years into a recovery. And then you have examples of his charts and graphs mentality being taken to absurdity, like when he said that what we really need is an invasion from Mars to get our economy working again. Yes, that would work on a supply demand chart with all other things being equal.

Yes, Krugman is one of the dumbest economists in existence.
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Krugman starts with an agenda and then tries to contort facts to support the agenda rather than examining the facts and coming to a conclusion. he is the epitome of outcome based "scholarship"

He's a pathetic sort of partisan Pimp
 
* This opinion only applies to Nobel Peace Prizes...and not to Science, Chemistry etc...*


Possibly some decades ago the Noble Peace Prize could be taken seriously, before the politically correct mob took control. But currently, yes it is joke.
 
TurtleDude said:
Krugman starts with an agenda and then tries to contort facts to support the agenda rather than examining the facts and coming to a conclusion. he is the epitome of outcome based "scholarship"

He's a pathetic sort of partisan Pimp
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You disagree with a few details of his free-market philosophy and that makes him a Partisan Pimp.
 
Jryan said:
This post makes you a racist TD...
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You obvious have no clue about the term. Its a factual statement that is not racist. Obama's race was one of his major selling points. Black turnout was astronomical and lots of whites voted for him because of his race. I realize its a common tactic of those on the left to scream racism but you in error
 
beerftw said:
if obama got one for getting elected,and ghandi couldnt get one,i do consider it a joke,there are too many worthy of it who did more for the world than simply getting elected as president.
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I am still trying to wrap my head around that one.
 
TurtleDude said:
You obvious have no clue about the term. Its a factual statement that is not racist. Obama's race was one of his major selling points. Black turnout was astronomical and lots of whites voted for him because of his race. I realize its a common tactic of those on the left to scream racism but you in error
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I guess it is also a common tactic of the right to use improper verbs like "obvious". Anyways, TurtleDude, I realize that it is a common attack from our side, and I apologize, but you COMPLETELY missed my joke :).

Goodnight God Sir!
 
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RadicalModerate said:
Of course, everyone who doesn't agree with you is one. I know how it works with you.
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you have been on this board too long to spew that sort of idiocy. I often don't agree with posters but only a few would I call pompous assholes.
 
The American public dont have to agree with every nobel prize given out...just saying
 
Jryan said:
I guess it is also a common tactic of the right to use improper verbs like "obvious". Anyways, TurtleDude, I realize that it is a common attack from our side, and I apologize, but you COMPLETELY missed my joke :).

Goodnight God Sir!
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apology accepted-you don't need to refer to me as God:mrgreen:

that would cause me to stop believing in myself!!
 
Higgins86 said:
The American public dont have to agree with every nobel prize given out...just saying
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Not only the American public ;) and we are talking only Nobel Peace Prize :)
 
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