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Are all black men brainwashed? (Read Warning: post #540)

Are all black men brainwashed?

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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Hatuey said:
See, I make jokes about Tucker's small white Irish dick. I got 7 people to like it. Tucker can't make a joke about my dick, cause well... I'm black and it's just stupid to lie about how gifted I am.
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Yeah, you might have the big black coal sausage compared to my albino inchworm, but I can wear a hoodie in Florida so there.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Tucker Case said:
I'm actually talking about the victim mentality, which is a separate issue from the sense of entitlement.

Think about things like the so-called "War on Christmas" and the "But black comedians can tell those jokes, why can't I?" type of complaint. They start from a position of perceived victimhood. In truth, white comedians can make racial jokes. Look at Daniel Tosh. It's about delivery, though.

And the "War on Christmas" is really just a difference of opinions. But we get back to the ratings again. White outrage over issues sells the most advertising for news networks. Pundits (from both sides) make money from creating controversy, not reporting it.

I don't blame the media for this, though. Bitching about the media is just the victim mentality at work. I blame the people. We the people who are driving this phenomenon, including myself. People would rather believe that they are victims than have to seriusly look at how they contribute to their own problems. It's perfectly natural, but it's also detrimental.
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ok let's go with this.

white people feel they are victims because they can't tell black jokes or say the word nigger.

in what capacity, do you think, black people feel victimized?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Hatuey said:
C'mon dude. It's not like Obama commented on the VA tragedy, or the thing in Fort Worth, or the other little incidents we have in this country every couple of week. If he said a black kid could look like his son - HE WANT'D TAH STARTA MODAFUKIN RACE RIOT YO!

Also, if you plan on engaging in the race riots, I'm opening up a store dedicated solely to race riot equipment. We sell bats, brace knuckles, 9mms and my personal favorite: sticks. CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!
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Race riots? OK. Let's destroy NASCAR. :mrgreen:
 
Redress said:
You have not shown a represehnsible statement, you have only shown that you will happily distort his words in order to play the race card. You made a claim which you have entirely failed to back up, and now you want those who have already shown you twisted his words to do more work. Do your own work, try and prove you did not make **** up, again.
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"typical white person"

Thise types make horrible racial epithats. And cross streets when they see a black man.....


The race baiting was obama's but i dont expect an honest assement from you on this.

His grandmother sounds like a bigoted prejudiced racist asshole....


Somethin I disagree with is his view linking her to "typical white people" and found rather offensive.


But I forgave him, i'm voting for him. :prof


I've backed this claim up more than once but you and the others would never listen nor admit....

Yet, in all these years, none of you explained the statement, but gey why bother when you can hurl insults at me instead! ;)


:shrug:
 
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the_recruit said:
ok let's go with this.

white people feel they are victims because they can't tell black jokes or say the word nigger.

in what capacity, do you think, black people feel victimized?
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In general terms, racial discrimination in society at large, coupled with the history of Jim Crow.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Yes, I do deny that. He didn't actually say that. Even if he did think it, he wouldn't have said it. Because if he said something to that effect, there would be a huge media firestorm bigger than the one that happened and that could've been the end of his candidacy.
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Maybe you can answer as you aren't hostile over this like some of our frieds here,

What, specifically did he mean by "typical white person" in reference to the abhorent and bigoted behavior attributed to his grandmother?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Blackdog said:
She was using my post as an example not the only bit of info.
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That is your assumption, I asked her what her sources are, nothing has come in response.



You make it sound like somehow you have access to information no one else does.
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Again, I asked for her sources, what SHE based HER opinion on.



One study, so? It's evidence that a problem exists in the black community. This is not ground breaking etc. So far only what 2 people think it's brainwashing. One of them is an avowed racist, so there you go.
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And the other is HER......there you are.



I am sorry this does not make you anything other than what she said. A person with an opinion.
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I never denied that, again, the question was what SHE was basing her opinion on that backs her claim of "brainwashing". Still, no answer.


You got all that from her quoted out of context remark? Not trolling or anything I seriously want to know how you got the marked in red comment from "It [the race card] originates from the brainwashing that happens to every black man."
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It wasn't out of context, at all....it comes from the body of her comments related to the whole "brainwashing" comments such as:
MaggieD said:
I have not suggested that black men are more susceptible to brainwashing. I'm saying the messages they often get are messages of victimology. We are all products of the good and bad that touches our lives.
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

the_recruit said:
ok let's go with this.

white people feel they are victims because they can't tell black jokes or say the word nigger.

in what capacity, do you think, black people feel victimized?
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The "I can't get a job because the white man is keepin' me down" argument immediately comes to mind as a comparable victim mentality argument sometimes ehard form black people.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Tucker Case said:
The "I can't get a job because the white man is keepin' me down" argument immediately comes to mind as a comparable victim mentality argument sometimes ehard form black people.
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A popular one actually is "Reagan gave us crack to keep us down."
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ReverendHellh0und said:
As i said to redress, post the line in the speech he was talkin about for context.
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I posted his explanation of the comment, he made the comment and gave the context. If you have ANYTHING to make your case or to counter mine, POST IT.

You won't because backing a point is not what you do.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I posted his explanation of the comment, he made the comment and gave the context. If you have ANYTHING to make your case or to counter mine, POST IT.
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where? I missed it. :shrug:


You won't because backing a point is not what you do.
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i'm on the tapatalk, if i thought you and your ilk would be objective i'd try. But nah, you like redress instead prefer to hurl insults so why would I bother?


Again 2 people posted the radio interview, is the line in the speech that much harder to find or is there another reason it's being ommited?
 
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Tucker Case said:
The "I can't get a job because the white man is keepin' me down" argument immediately comes to mind as a comparable victim mentality argument sometimes ehard form black people.
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and you don't think that one of these two victim mentalities is relatively inconsequential compared to the other?
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

People vote their interests.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ReverendHellh0und said:
where? I missed it. :shrug:





i'm on the tapatalk, if i thought you and your ilk would be objective i'd try. But nah, you like redress instead prefer to hurl insults so why would I bother?


Again 2 people posted the radio interview, is the line in the speech that much harder to find or is there abother reason it's being ommited?
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Ah, now I have to prove your point by finding your evidence.....while you skip over what I already posted.

And to add, your excuse is that you are occupied with other things that limit your ability to prove your point.

Well done, shift the burden with excuses.

edit: You did read my posting of the explanation..because you quoted my comment associated with it.
 
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Tucker Case said:
I'm actually talking about the victim mentality, which is a separate issue from the sense of entitlement.

Think about things like the so-called "War on Christmas" and the "But black comedians can tell those jokes, why can't I?" type of complaint. They start from a position of perceived victimhood. In truth, white comedians can make racial jokes. Look at Daniel Tosh. It's about delivery, though.

And the "War on Christmas" is really just a difference of opinions. But we get back to the ratings again. White outrage over issues sells the most advertising for news networks. Pundits (from both sides) make money from creating controversy, not reporting it.

I don't blame the media for this, though. Bitching about the media is just the victim mentality at work. I blame the people. We the people who are driving this phenomenon, including myself. People would rather believe that they are victims than have to seriusly look at how they contribute to their own problems. It's perfectly natural, but it's also detrimental.
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This entire post pretty much sums up my view point on a lot of this. There is a victim mentality throughout the country. You have white people complaining that they are a victim of a "PC" society where they can't make race jokes, black people claiming that they can't get a job because of society, conservatives complaining that they're a victim of the liberal media and so on. It's just easier to blame someone else instead of yourself and that's not to say that there aren't real obstacles in our way, but that even when they're aren't or even when the obstacles may be overcome, some people choose to blame others rather than work to get over them. Rather than be respectful, some would rather blame political correctness for the poor reception of their words. Rather than work hard, some would rather blame society for their unemployment.

And all of these behaviors are learned. And while I still think "brainwashed" is too dramatic of a term to describe that learning process, the process does exist and it is not something that is exclusive to black men. For the reason, it continues to strike me as nonsensical and prejudicial to single out black men as "brainwashed" into things like a victim complex. It's just not a rational position to take.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

digsbe said:
Brainwashed meaning what exactly? And no, I don't think all people in any group are brainwashed into anything. But then again I also think it's poor form to call out another user by quoting a post they made a mistake in and arguing based on that single word mistake.
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She didn't make a mistake. She said she "almost" went back to change it, but didn't which is why I didn't quote the second post. When you "almost" do something, you're not actually doing it which I explained on the first page since she lied in the 2nd post about what she actually said.

But if you don't like the thread, you know where to go.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Ah, now I have to prove your point by finding your evidence.....while you skip over what I already posted.

And to add, your excuse is that you are occupied with other things that limit your ability to prove your point.

Well done, shift the burden with excuses.

edit: You did read my posting of the explanation..because you quoted my comment associated with it.
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1. What post number?

2. It's taking you more time to come after me for suggesting its not worth the time and effort to find the text in the speech because i am on the iphone and i know you all will ignore it, than it would for you to google it.


Telling.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

Blackdog said:
So the Democratic party is seen as the savior in the US, because they proclaim to be the party that cares about blacks and the needs of the black community. So in the end it really is not brain washing. It is black people reaching out for something or someone for hope.

Unfortunately to many do not see our system for what it is. Two party's that are two sides of the same coin out for one thing... Their own power and greed.
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I think that simplifies it too much. I agree that the Democratic Party offers hope and also that neither party is really living up to it's word, but I think a lot of black support for the Democrat comes from an actual evaluation of policy. It's not just about "reaching out for hope", but also about "I think the Democratic policies are better than the Republican policies with regards to my practical interests".
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

DiAnna said:
I agree. I don't understand, TPD, why you didn't clarify what Maggie meant in the original thread, and challenge her premise there.
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You obviously, like digsbe, didn't read this post where I did clarify. But it doesn't matter because no matter which post I posted she would have played the victim card, so...

http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/123014-all-black-men-brainwashed.html#post1060365379

I also created the thread because I wanted to create it to answer your other question.
 
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Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

the_recruit said:
and you don't think that one of these two victim mentalities is relatively inconsequential compared to the other?
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They aren't problems in and of themselves, they are merely symptoms of an over-arching systemic problem that really has nothing to do with race.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

ThePlayDrive said:
This entire post pretty much sums up my view point on a lot of this. There is a victim mentality throughout the country. You have white people complaining that they are a victim of a "PC" society where they can't make race jokes, black people claiming that they can't get a job because of society, conservatives complaining that they're a victim of the liberal media and so on. It's just easier to blame someone else instead of yourself and that's not to say that there aren't real obstacles in our way, but that even when they're aren't or even when the obstacles may be overcome, some people choose to blame others rather than work to get over them. Rather than be respectful, some would rather blame political correctness for the poor reception of their words. Rather than work hard, some would rather blame society for their unemployment.

And all of these behaviors are learned. And while I still think "brainwashed" is too dramatic of a term to describe that learning process, the process does exist and it is not something that is exclusive to black men. For the reason, it continues to strike me as nonsensical and prejudicial to single out black men as "brainwashed" into things like a victim complex. It's just not a rational position to take.
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what effects do you think these two victim mentalities breed within black society and white society respectively?

Btw, feel free to speak your mind and generalize a bit if you want - i won't latch onto a specific word in your post and use it to start a new thread inviting the rest of the community to join in gang-stomping you for a few ill-chosen words. i'm not such a colossal douche.
 
Re: Are all black men brainwashed?

the_recruit said:
what effects do you think these two victim mentalities breed within black society and white society respectively?
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Why do you assume that they breed different things within these communities based on the race of the community?
 
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