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Florida Law on use of deadly force [W:390]

Do you agree with Florida Law on use of deadly force?

  • Agree

    Votes: 41 70.7%

  • Disagree

    Votes: 15 25.9%

  • I oppose the Second Amendment completely

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • There should be no rule of law

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Total voters
    58
Michael Johnson said:
Continue on with your lies.
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Ummmmm I never responded to Muhammad at all. Never questioned him etc.

Since you cannot show that I did, I will consider this ended in my favor.
 
Blackdog said:
Correction: Than you do. I am an experienced LEO and police academy graduate.



Dispatchers are not experts on the law or the enforcement of law, period. You are trying to give a dispatcher expertise they do not have by training or any real world experience.



This is probably true, but so far the evidence says he broke no law. Until it becomes a crime to make bad decisions, the evidence does not suggest any crime. It is a shame, but not a crime.
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Thank you for correcting the facts on your training. Allow me then to rephrase my statement to say that the dispatcher knows a hell of a lot more than I do or most other Americans about that sort of situation.

The question of a crime is now being investigated. I am willing to wait for that determination. Until then it is a fact that if Z had stayed in his car that night as the dispatcher advised him to do, neither of us would be engaged in this discussion today and the entire world would be absent this terrible event - sad or otherwise.
 
haymarket said:
Thank you for correcting the facts on your training. Allow me then to rephrase my statement to say that the dispatcher knows a hell of a lot more than I do or most other Americans about that sort of situation.
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Possibly, but we don't know anything about the dispatcher. You are probably correct, but I can't say for certain.

haymarket said:
The question of a crime is now being investigated. I am willing to wait for that determination. Until then it is a fact that if Z had stayed in his car that night as the dispatcher advised him to do, neither of us would be engaged in this discussion today and the entire world would be absent this terrible event - sad or otherwise.
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True.
 
Michael Johnson said:
Continue with your lies.
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You can scream "liar" to the high heavens, but with no evidence of wrong doing on my part it means little.

So again point out where I questioned Muhammad? I even linked to the post for you. I responded to you, not him, nor did I question him about anything.

So Again I will consider this ended in my favor.
 
Blackdog said:
You can scream "liar" to the high heavens, but with no evidence of wrong doing on my part it means little.

So again point out where I questioned Muhammad? I even linked to the post for you. I responded to you, not him, nor did I question him about anything.

So Again I will consider this ended in my favor.
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Again nobody cares, the lies are in stone anyway. Besides Zimmerman is a monster.
 
Michael Johnson said:
Yes you are trolling along with your inability to back up your statements.

Have a nice one.
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What statements do I need to back up? I did not say anything to Muhammad, nothing at all.

I keep asking you to point it out, so I can respond. Instead you keep on baiting and trolling.

Then you just copy what I said like some child.

I am not certain what your problem is, and to be honest I don't really care but I can say with all honesty something is wrong with your thinking.
 
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Blackdog, MJ, play nice, or infractions will be coming your way.
 
Blackdog said:
What statements do I need to back up? I did not say anything to Muhammad, nothing at all.

I keep asking you to point it out, so I can respond. Instead you keep on baiting and trolling.

Then you just copy what I said like some child.

I am not certain what your problem is, and to be honest I don't really care but I can say with all honesty something is wrong with your thinking.
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Again you said a statement then tried to back up when called on it.
 
Michael Johnson said:
Nobody is baiting and trolling except you. Just look at your signature line for god sakes. If anyone has jacked up thinking, it is you....sir.

Have a nice day.
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What does my signature have to do with anything????
 
Michael Johnson said:
Again you said a statement then tried to back up when called on it.
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What statement? That narrows it down to about 10,000 posts. I have not backed up on anything in this thread.
 
Michael Johnson said:
Okay so it's obvious you won't admit it, but that's okay.
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I have no clue to what you are referring. I made one post to you about Zimmerman ignoring the dispatcher. That's it. I said nothing else to you about that and nothing at all to Muhammad. So please tell me what you are talking about????
 
Blackdog said:
I have no clue to what you are referring. I made one post to you about Zimmerman ignoring the dispatcher. That's it. I said nothing else to you about that and nothing at all to Muhammad. So please tell me what you are talking about????
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Again if you don't want to admit it, it doesn't matter. We're done at this point.
 
Michael Johnson said:
Again if you don't want to admit it, it doesn't matter. We're done at this point.
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I am asking you to explain because I have no idea what you are talking about. It has nothing to do with admitting anything. I can't admit to what I don't know.

I figured you got nothing. No argument.
 
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Blackdog said:
I am asking you to explain because I have no idea what you are talking about. It has nothing to do with admitting anything. I can't admit to what I don't know.

I figured you got nothing. No argument.
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I've already proved my argument. Shame you won't back up yours.
 
Blackdog said:
I am asking you to explain because I have no idea what you are talking about. It has nothing to do with admitting anything. I can't admit to what I don't know.

I figured you got nothing. No argument.
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"Michael" gave up. He always does.
 
Michael Johnson said:
I've already proved my argument. Shame you won't back up yours.
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OK lets see....

This was my initial response directly to you....

He did not ignore the dispatcher. The dispatcher suggested he should not follow Martin, it was not a command or order to be ignored. - Blackdog

No lie there or even anything to imply.

You then responded with...

Doesn't matter if it wasn't a command. He still ignored the dispatcher and went after him. You questioned Muhammed on whether Zimmerman ignored the dispatcher or not, implying that it never happened when evidence shows he did, and now you're trying to argue the technicality between the dispatcher and Zimmerman.

Next. - Michael Johnson http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/122610-florida-law-use-deadly-force-32.html#post1060380089

I then responded...

#1 I did not question Muhammad on anything.
#2 Since I did not question Muhammad, I did not imply anything.
#3 The evidence says the dispatcher "suggested" a course of action and Zimmerman chose to follow a different course. This does not mean he ignored the dispatcher. That is unless you can read Zimmerman's mind?
#4 Now you are trying to accuse me of things I did not say or imply and I have shown your statements to be less than accurate.

Next. - Blackdog http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/122610-florida-law-use-deadly-force-32.html#post1060380222

So please point out where I responded to Muhammad to imply something?
Point out where I backtracked on anything I have said? I still maintain since the dispatcher had no real authority to tell him what to do, it was not a matter of ignoring and is irrelevant by and according to the law.

So please point out my lie, or anything else you would like. So far you have done nothing but make a really bad argument and sling mud.

Nothing else.
 
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Does anyone know if the burglaries in Zimmerman's neighborhood have slowed down?
 
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