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Is the Rev. Al Sharpton a racist?

Is Al Sharpton a racist

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GhostlyJoe said:
He's certainly racist. Not in the sense that he hates white people, but in that race is the focal point of his politics.
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That would make him a racialist.
 
Wake said:
Then it all needs to stop. If people are going to accuse others along the lines of racism, then all must stop, from Al to Imus.

I am so sick of people doing the same thing while some are condemned and some aren't.
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I have said it needs to stop alot. You can do a nice search and see how many times I have accused any one of being racist. Probably alot fewer than you in fact.
 
Redress said:
I have said it needs to stop alot. You can do a nice search and see how many times I have accused any one of being racist. Probably alot fewer than you in fact.
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I call out what I think is obvious. Not try to make mountains out of molehills like Al or the NAACP.

For example there was this one incident with the NAACP that thought an audio birthday card with "black hole" in its space theme was racist. They thought it was "black whore," even though it wasn't.
 
Wake said:
I call out what I think is obvious. Not try to make mountains out of molehills like Al or the NAACP.

For example there was this one incident with the NAACP that thought an audio birthday card with "black hole" in its space theme was racist. They thought it was "black whore," even though it wasn't.
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And we see the "when I do it it is different" argument.
 
Wake said:
Then it all needs to stop. If people are going to accuse others along the lines of racism, then all must stop, from Al to Imus.

I am so sick of people doing the same thing while some are condemned and some aren't.
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Some are condemned and some aren't... because some are right. Some allegations of racism are accurate, and some are unfounded. Of course the unfounded ones should be condemned and the accurate ones shouldn't!

How can you dismiss every instance where someone talks about race. There are real issues surrounding race and discrimination that need to be addressed. You can't just call anyone who brings these issues up racist to dismiss their legitimate grievances.
 
Paschendale said:
Some are condemned and some aren't... because some are right. Some allegations of racism are accurate, and some are unfounded. Of course the unfounded ones should be condemned and the accurate ones shouldn't!

How can you dismiss every instance where someone talks about race. There are real issues surrounding race and discrimination that need to be addressed. You can't just call anyone who brings these issues up racist to dismiss their legitimate grievances.
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Whatever the case, there must be equality.

Either all can make accusations, or none.

It shouldn't be that some can stir up racial tensions and be villified, and some can't.

Likewise, it's unfair how certain races are given preferences while others aren't.

If people can talk, specualt, and accuse based on race, then let ALL do so, and protect NO ONE, like Al Sharpton, from being the target of such insinuations. Don't set up the scenario where he can condemn and accuse, yet be protected and have the accusations against him be shrugged off.
 
It seems whenever an accident or incident involving race occurs, Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire.
 
As another example:

1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.
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Who thinks Al Sharpton is a racist pig ? - Yahoo! Answers
 
Wake said:
Whatever the case, there must be equality.

Either all can make accusations, or none.

It shouldn't be that some can stir up racial tensions and be villified, and some can't.

Likewise, it's unfair how certain races are given preferences while others aren't.

If people can talk, specualt, and accuse based on race, then let ALL do so, and protect NO ONE, like Al Sharpton, from being the target of such insinuations. Don't set up the scenario where he can condemn and accuse, yet be protected and have the accusations against him be shrugged off.
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Exactly. And, the myth that minorities 'can't be racist' needs to be buried as well.
 
Wake said:
Whatever the case, there must be equality.

Either all can make accusations, or none.

It shouldn't be that some can stir up racial tensions and be villified, and some can't.
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This is the most moronic argument I've ever heard, but I'll indulge it for a moment.

It is equal. Everyone has the right to make true accusations about racism, and no one has the right to make unfounded claims. There you go. Now it's equal, and not determined by who is making the claim. It is only determined by the accuracy of the claim itself. Now that it's phrased specially for you, can you comprehend that there are lots of issues of race to be dealt with in this country and that legitimate discussion about them is not the same thing as someone actually being racist?

But seriously, your whole deal here is that there is no ethical difference between telling the truth and lying, and that liars shouldn't face repercussions for lying, because they're just speaking, the same way that someone telling the truth is. I can't come up with a strong enough word to describe how stupid that is.

Oberon said:
Exactly. And, the myth that minorities 'can't be racist' needs to be buried as well.
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Of course minorities can be bigots. But it's wrong wrong wrong wrong to dismiss legitimate grievances expressed by minorities over race as just racism. Talking about race isn't racism. Discrimination based on race is.
 
Paschendale said:
Of course minorities can be bigots. But it's wrong wrong wrong wrong to dismiss legitimate grievances expressed by minorities over race as just racism. Talking about race isn't racism. Discrimination based on race is.
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Of course it's racism and nobody says the grievances are necessarily legitimate. Talking about race isn't racism, but taking race into consideration with regard to an individual's credibility most certainly is. That's what people like Sharpton do constantly.
 
I think he is .... and Jesse Jackson is another racist too.
 
Wake said:
Sharpton definitely being one of them. If people can brand Imus a racist, Sharpton easily fits the mold as well.

All must be equal.
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Since when does the definition of racist depend on what people call Don Imus.
 
I don't see how a black man who plays politics in a white man's world could avoid commenting on Racism. Nor can I see a Black man with the platform to work toward changing the situation for other black people in this society, not taking advantage of it...he would be a coward.

Racist No....Todays Martin Luther King....Hell No!

Pissed Off Dumbsh!t....probably.
 
Hare said:
He's a grammatically challenged opportunist and a professional martyr, but I don't believe he's racist.
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Have you ever seen him go to the defense of a white person?
 
I think sometimes he's an idiot.

He's extremely fiery but I don't believe he's a racist.
 
Cephus said:
While I can't know what really goes on in his head, certainly his public actions would lead one to believe that. That's really all you can go by, if he opens his mouth and sounds like a racist, he is, for all intents and purposes, a racist.
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Do you know what goes on in the mind of David Duke? You don't have to know that to know he is a racist.......
 
Navy Pride said:
What do you think?
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The thread title immediately brings to my mind the recent series of Geico commercials featuring a spokesman who I perceive as putting on a very, very bad impression of Rod Sirling.

The ads, of course, are based on a much older cliché which usually ends with a question like “Is the Pope Catholic?”

 
Navy Pride said:
Have you ever seen him go to the defense of a white person?
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Not really, but I'd hardly say that's a litmus test for racism. Perhaps we have different interpretations of the term.
 
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Redress said:
Wikipedia: Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Dictionary.com: Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com



Based on the definitions, I cannot call him a racist. He is, like many politicians and posters here, using race based arguments and playing the race card. A simple look at the Martin/Zimmerman case and the threads here will show you that most people do this to an extent, including some here calling Sharpton a racist. This however is not an excuse, we should condemn any one doing this crap, I just don't think it is helpful to single any one person out. AS is usually the case with things like this, the people making the loudest arguments against Sharpton are doing the exact same thing.
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Why am I not surprised.....I heard on the news that there are 300 murders in this country every day, mostly black on black..........why doesn't Sharpton ever stick his big fat nose in these cases....
 
Navy Pride said:
Like Wake said it would sure as hell make a white man a racist......How does he skate out?
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He skates because he brings votes and cash to the Democratic Party. The brie and chardonnay set that runs the Party for their faction of billionaires love identity politics and anything they can do to generate divisiveness and keep the proles polarized and divided is a big plus for them; they abandoned their traditional labor constituencies when they passed the 'Super Delegate Rule' in 1984; they hated surprises like McGovern and Carter taking over 'their' conventions, and they despise those grubby uncouth proles as much as any Republican does. They like to cater to the 'Creative Class' these days, better known as 'neo liberals'. The proles pissed them off by sniveling about illegal immigration and endangered their rights to have cheap live-in Guatemalan maids for $800 a month and not pay SS or payroll taxes for them.

The Neo-Liberal War on Blue-Collar Whites and the Breakup of the Democratic Party : NO QUARTER

Just a snippet; reading the entire article is probably too much to be expected ...

What we are witnessing is nothing short of the breakup of the historic Democratic coalition. Chris Bowers, Obama supporter and writer at Open Left, dreams of a cultural change in an Obama Democratic Party which is almost a parody of the brie and Chardonnay stereotype:

There should be a major cultural shift in the party, where the southern Dems and Liebercrat elite will be largely replaced by rising creative class types. Obama has all the markers of a creative class background, from his community organizing, to his Unitarianism, to being an academic, to living in Hyde Park to shopping at Whole Foods and drinking PBR. These will be the type of people running the Democratic Party now, and it will be a big cultural shift from the white working class focus of earlier decades.

Further illustrating their break with traditional liberalism, Markos Moulitsas has declared himself a libertarian Democrat, in other words: a politically correct Republican. These neo-liberals are really proposing a Party run by those who have little need for government and instead focus on identity politics, environmentalism, post-partisan government, and the rejection of American exceptionalism. The neo-liberals demonize the traditional Democratic base of poor white voters precisely because these voters rely on government and expect their leadership to fight partisan battles on their behalf. They are also deeply patriotic and weary of the moral relativism put forward by the likes of Jeremiah Wright.
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Very accurate article on what was, and is, going on with the Democratic Party wing of the Billionaire Boys Club.

You and their partners Republicans and 'conservatives have quite a bit in common, actually.
 
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Navy Pride said:
What do you think?
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He's annoying and he has some prejudices. He strikes me as the kind of guy that has prejudices against certain groups ingrained in him, but intellectually does not believe that any race is better or worse than any other. His comments about Jews are negative things that I think perpetuate stereotypes in society, but I think that is more about the Jewish religion rather than the Jewish race. So racist? No. Prejudiced? Yeah.
 
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