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Should women be allowed to serve in combat roles in the military?

Should women be allowed in combat roles in military?

  • Yes

    Votes: 45 68.2%
  • No

    Votes: 14 21.2%
  • IDK/other

    Votes: 7 10.6%

  • Total voters
    66
LIL this is called stacking the deck for two reasons.

1.) its very possible the women could beat the man
2.) wonder why you described a man of ABOVE average size and a women BELOW average size?

are you ever honesty in your poscouldn'tcouldnt pick just based on physically description.


I live near Navy and army bases (Fort Lewis McChord and Navy Submarine Base Bangor) and that is about the size of the women I see there give or take a few inches............

Of course being the liberal feel good you are its easy for you to say that a 5'2" 110 lb woman (I even added 2 inches and 10 lbs). I think all your "Feel Good Libs" saying it is ok would feel different if your ass was actually in those situations.
 
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I live near Navy and army bases (Fort Lewis McChord and Navy Submarine Base Bangor) and that is about the size of the women I see there give or take a few inches.............

well that's clearly because you look down on women.
 
I live near Navy and army bases (Fort Lewis McChord and Navy Submarine Base Bangor) and that is about the size of the women I see there give or take a few inches............

Of course being the liberal feel good you are its easy for you to say that a 5'2" 110 lb woman (I even added 2 inches and 10 lbs). I think all your "Feel Good Libs" saying ti is ok would feel different if your ass was actually in those situations.

oh so you measure and weigh these women do you? what about the men they are all 6'2 also ??? :laughat:

no matter what you bias excuses is you tried to stack the deck and you failed because rational objective adults didnt buy into your ploy LOL

nice try
 
She is a retired CMDCM I bet she still could.

Well she is the exception to the rule.......Most women could not fo it....Those P250s and P500s almost weigh as much as some women........

By the way thank you for your service shipmate and welcome to DP. Hope to see more posts from you.
 
oh so you measure and weigh these women do you? what about the men they are all 6'2 also ??? :laughat:

no matter what you bias excuses is you tried to stack the deck and you failed because rational objective adults didnt buy into your ploy LOL

nice try

No they are not but most men are a foot taller and outweigh their counterpart women by at least 60 lbs..........I would love to get you aboard ship on a 3"50 gun mount as a first loader manning those 3" 50 projectiles or on a all hands ammunition loading party handling 5" 38 projectiles, I bet they would kick your ass........:)

Talk about a grown man crying.......:lamo
 
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As I have said in another of these threads:

Just before I retired last year, I was Intimately involved in the manning and training of the US Navy rescue crewman pipeline. There was a huge push to get more females in the field. In 5 years we were able to get THREE through the schools (27 months total) and then get fully qualified in the fleet... THREE... Over a 99% attrition rate. Why? Because, no matter how motivated, mature, and educated these fine Sailors were, the overwhelming majority of them could not meet the strength requirements.

This aligns with what Navy Pride said about women on a DC party. And as I said go him, there are exceptions. Opening the MOS to women is the right thing to do. But don't expect a flood of women running to 11bravo school... And when they do, don't expect a ton to pass it....
 
I would take a look at the North Korean Women and the Israelis. Moreover women units can still operate in battle with other units. Or be attached to other units. Can be specialized to fight and not be to much concerned about supplies and or to much gear.
 
No they are not but most men are a foot taller and outweigh their counterpart women by at least 60 lbs..........I would love to get you aboard ship on a 3"50 gun mount as a first loader manning those 3" 50 projectiles or on a all hands ammunition loading party handling 5" 38 projectiles, I bet they would kick your ass........:)

Talk about a grown man crying.......:lamo

you dont even realize you just admitted to stacking the deck and being dishonest LMAO and then you deflect and try to insult. priceless

the fact remains no objective adult bought your dishonest and you trying to stack the deck :D
 
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he doesnt meet the standard and i wouldnt let him into combat,nor would i let anyone who cant meet the basic standard
 
simple question.......If your in a foxhole getting ready to go into hand to hand combat who do you want to have your back a 6'2" 200 lb guy or a 5' 100 lb woman?

Average height of a woman in the US is 5'4 1/2" : http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf

Average height of a woman in the army or marines is probably taller.

Average height of a man is 5'10".

Now this makes one wonder why you selected a below average woman and an above average man.
 
Average height of a woman in the US is 5'4 1/2" : http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf

Average height of a woman in the army or marines is probably taller.

Average height of a man is 5'10".

Now this makes one wonder why you selected a below average woman and an above average man.

exactly what I said earlier, its called dishonesty and he was trying to stack the deck, he failed miserably as the objective people here didnt buy it
 
As I have said in another of these threads:

Just before I retired last year, I was Intimately involved in the manning and training of the US Navy rescue crewman pipeline. There was a huge push to get more females in the field. In 5 years we were able to get THREE through the schools (27 months total) and then get fully qualified in the fleet... THREE... Over a 99% attrition rate. Why? Because, no matter how motivated, mature, and educated these fine Sailors were, the overwhelming majority of them could not meet the strength requirements.

This aligns with what Navy Pride said about women on a DC party. And as I said go him, there are exceptions. Opening the MOS to women is the right thing to do. But don't expect a flood of women running to 11bravo school... And when they do, don't expect a ton to pass it....

I have been retired for a long time but I did work for NAVSEA for 25 years after retiring so I kept pretty with Naval affairs.......Still get the Navy times..and when I was on active duty we had very few women aboard destroyers, cruisers or subs.........I feel we have enough problems aboard ship already without adding women to the mix........Maybe that makes me a sexist I don't know.....I don't think the military should be used for social experimentation and that is what the left is trying to do.....I know a lot of chiefs still on active duty that feel the same way but its not politically correct to say so.......


Oh and I know I must getting old because I was eating lunch at the Naval Hospital Bremerton the other day and a pregnant CPO came through the line............I was with a fellow Chief and he said I never thought I would see a pregnant chief.....:)
 
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No they are not but most men are a foot taller and outweigh their counterpart women by at least 60 lbs..........I would love to get you aboard ship on a 3"50 gun mount as a first loader manning those 3" 50 projectiles or on a all hands ammunition loading party handling 5" 38 projectiles, I bet they would kick your ass........:)

Talk about a grown man crying.......:lamo

Wrong again. The average difference in height is 5 1/2 inches. You should know better than to make up statistics.

The average difference in weight is 26 pounds: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad347.pdf

See what happens when you lie?
 
I have been retired for a long time but I did work for NAVSEA for 25 years after retiring so I kept pretty with Naval affairs.......Still get the Navy times..and when I was on active duty we had very few women aboard destroyers, cruisers or subs.........I feel we have enough problems aboard ship already without adding women to the mix........Maybe that makes me a sexist I don't know.....I don't think the military should be used for social experimentation and that is what the left is trying to do.....I know a lot of chiefs still on active duty that feel the same way but its not politically correct to say so.......

So only straight white men should fight in the military? That doesn't seem like a good policy anymore.
 
Average height of a woman in the US is 5'4 1/2" : http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr010.pdf

Average height of a woman in the army or marines is probably taller.

Average height of a man is 5'10".

Now this makes one wonder why you selected a below average woman and an above average man.

Is that pregant?:) I wonder why you did not give their weights?
 
Is that pregant?:) I wonder why you did not give their weights?

I did in a later post. For reference, the average weight of a woman in the US is 164 pounds, men is 190 pounds.
 
Wrong again. The average difference in height is 5 1/2 inches. You should know better than to make up statistics.

The average difference in weight is 26 pounds: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad347.pdf

See what happens when you lie?

Horse**** I don't care what your survey says I see them every day and a lot of Navy women barely make 5' 110 lbs and most men are at least 6'..........
 
I did in a later post. For reference, the average weight of a woman in the US is 164 pounds, men is 190 pounds.

Redress I don't even know a woman who weighs 164.......
 
Horse**** I don't care what your survey says I see them every day and a lot of Navy women barely make 5' 110 lbs and most men are at least 6'..........

Right, when confronted with facts, and documented facts(not a survey, but a study by the CDC) at that, you just say you don't beleive it, prefering your own made up nonsense. Excellent debate tactic, wonder how it will work for you.
 
So only straight white men should fight in the military? That doesn't seem like a good policy anymore.

Hopefully that will be overturned when Hussein Obama is gone.........No there are already gay men fighting and doing a damn good job............Your point is?
 
Right, when confronted with facts, and documented facts(not a survey, but a study by the CDC) at that, you just say you don't beleive it, prefering your own made up nonsense. Excellent debate tactic, wonder how it will work for you.

I see the people every day Redress, they don't fit your references....sorry
 
Hopefully that will be overturned when Hussein Obama is gone.........No there are already gay men fighting and doing a damn good job............Your point is?

My point is things change. That's life.
 
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