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Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

Is there a War on Women?

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katie, I asked you a question in post 77. Are you refering to this liberl POS. he was suspended for 1 week. MSNBC didn't lose any sponsers like rush did. Double standard?

 
tessaesque said:
NO offense, but since you aren't on that side, how do you know what they want or believe? What you're saying right here is a bunch of opposition rhetoric designed to devalue the ideology of the other side in an effort to maximize your own belief system. It doesn't further the debate and causes more harm than it prevents. Instead of insisting you know what the other side thinks, why don't you actively and respectfully converse with them. I think you'd be surprised, if you were willing to open your mind and truly listen.

Are their some people like what you describe? I'm sure. But they're a very, very small minority in the pro-life movement....and this is coming from somebody who is pro-choice.
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When you use the argument that the fetus is some sort of protected life form you use the opposite rhetoric. It's an insult to keep hearing how abortion is murder. As long as the anti choice advocates support other forms of death they are just trying to control the debate. You are using exactly the same tactic in debate as everyone else. The rhetoric they believe.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
I would also have cancer cells removed as unwanted tissue growing in my body. Those cancer cells are life do you want people with cancer to remove them? That cancer is just trying to grow.
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Did you just equate an unborn child with cancer cells? wow. This is how they really think people. wow
 
Josie said:
/facepalm

You cannot be serious.
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Well to be fair, there's been a lot of heated rhetoric from both sides starting with the OP whose posts devolved into completely nonsensical mockery by the second page, so let's not get on our high horses shall we?
 
Josie said:
I say no.

A real war on women can be seen in countries where women aren't allowed to show their hair or drive a car.
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And when women are raped in this country, you have many pundits saying how it's because she wore a revealing dress and maybe if she wore a burka.... Bill O'Rielly anyone?

"War against women" is just a buzz phrase, and nothing should distract from the fact that sexism does exist in this country.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
To be fair, a lot of this could be said for us pro-choicers as well. Although we aren't playing God in the sense that we have decided that a person definitely begins at X time, we are playing God in sense that we decide who should live and die. Moreover, a lot of pro-lifers see the abortion thing as a life vs. choice thing and they think life wins out. Consequently, I don't think it's fair to say "it isn't about life".

The entire abortion debate is a completely and totally a matter of perspective.
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The pro choicers are not running around saying they are pro life.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
Well to be fair, there's been a lot of heated rhetoric from both sides starting with the OP whose posts devolved into completely nonsensical mockery by the second page, so let's not get on our high horses shall we?
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Maybe we should just get the thread moved to the basement and then kick it into high gear. Hehehe.
 
Josie said:
"War on Women" seems to be the popular buzz phrase lately. Do you believe there is a war against women in this country right now?
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Yeah its called HIGH HEELS!
 
katiegrrl0 said:
The pro choicers are not running around saying they are pro life.
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But they do say they are pro-choice. Are you pro-every choice? Guns maybe?

Pro-Choice and Pro-Life are propaganda terms of the abortion argument.
 
SgtRock said:
Which brodcaster? Are you refering to Ed Schultz when he called Laura Ingrham a slut on his MSNBC show. Why didn't the sponsers pull their ads from his show I wonder. Oh wait I know why, its because hes a freakin liberal piece of ****.
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Why have you determined that I care if the broadcaster is left or right. It's an insult on either side of the fence. So what point are you trying to make.
 
Josie said:
You could also call abortion to be an actual war on both sexes since abortion is the legal annihilation of both males and females.
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But only women die from illegal abortion. Not men.... so we could spin it either way. Trying to make the pro choice side an anti sexist position is just kind of silly to me, and I wouldn't considered it annihilation according to the definition either.
 
SgtRock said:
Did you just equate an unborn child with cancer cells? wow. This is how they really think people. wow
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They really have to think that way otherwise they could not live with theirselves.
 
Goshin said:
People are actually saying such a thing?


Really?


Gawd no, there's no 'war on women' in America. Women are pretty much on top these days.
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Women are not on top and men at the bottom. Men aren't exactly on the top either... There is still not a lot of women involved in politics and holding public office. Many doors haven't been kicked down or dented yet, but I am not going to say that means women are on the bottom either. We pretty much are NOT on top though.
 
Josie said:
I'm sorry.....what?
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Since women are the only ones who can get abortions, then they will be the only ones to die from illegal ones that go wrong.
 
Josie said:
"War on Women" seems to be the popular buzz phrase lately. Do you believe there is a war against women in this country right now?
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Back on topic, I don't feel there's a war on women; it's an extreme partisan phrase meant to shake up the emotions and divide us. "War" in itself is a damned strong word. War is hell. It's fighting, death, and brutality. There is no war against women, just as there's no war against men. Ideological differences? Sure; that makes us human. Does it seem that some men and some women are locked in an ideological battle to persuade the masses and change the future? You betcha. It's more or less a give and take between these pieces on the political chessboard. Whatever our differences, whatever our grievances, we need to stick together and not use strong words like "war" and "hate" to tear us apart.
 
SheWolf said:
But only women die from illegal abortion. Not men.... so we could spin it either way. Trying to make the pro choice side an anti sexist position is just kind of silly to me, and I wouldn't considered it annihilation according to the definition either.
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It is a myth to say that all kinds of women died from iilegal abortions prior to Roe V Wade...Many more have died since then, around 42,000,000 to be exact.........
 
Navy Pride said:
It is a myth to say that all kinds of women died from iilegal abortions prior to Roe V Wade...Many more have died since then, around 42,000,000 to be exact.........
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Unborn children are not women. NEXT.
 
Ikari said:
But they do say they are pro-choice. Are you pro-every choice? Guns maybe?

Pro-Choice and Pro-Life are propaganda terms of the abortion argument.
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Right. Liberals are not pro choice when it comes to guns, participation in Social Security or Obamacare, nor are they pro choice when it comes to education, or seat belts, or smoking in restaurants. Choice is only important when it comes to aborting the consequences of their sexual behavior.
 
Josie said:
"War on Women" seems to be the popular buzz phrase lately. Do you believe there is a war against women in this country right now?
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I haven't read the thread yet, but for myself I say "yes". I say that because state and federal legislators continue to pick away at women's health issues and right to choose by legislating their health care and forcing unwilling women to undergo invasive, unnecessary procedures based on their moral preferences. This certainly isn't being done for men's health issues.

I say "yes" because when a woman asks that birth control and hormonal treatments be included in health insurance coverage, this is twisted and spun as "women wanting the taxpayers to pay for them to have sex..." And party soldiers across the nation nod in fervent agreement, without even mentioning that it's okay for men's hormonal and sexual dysfunction treatments are covered by insurance.

I say "yes", because when this same woman is "exposed" as having been active in helping battered women and fighting human traficking, this is twisted and spun as "she is a liberal activist! She's a public person! It's okay to call her a slut and a prostitute!" And party soldiers across the nation nod in fervent agreement, without noting that it would be highly unacceptable to call a male "activist" working with battered women and fighting human traficking a man-whore.

I say "yes", because as long as women's health issues and medical privacy rights are being singled out for legislative invasion, there is indeed a "war on women" being waged, right now, right here, in the good old constitutionally-protected-unless-female US of A.

Now I shall read the thread and find out all the reasons why I am wrong. :)
 
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