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Is there a "War on Women" in the United States?

Is there a War on Women?


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There is? :thinking
Yes there is. When birth control methods are being questioned and abortion rights are continually being attacked. Rush calls women on the pill sluts but the guys that are screwing them are probably folk heroes. Romney wants to close Planned Parenthood. A endless line of protestors stand at women's health clinics. Yeah I would say there is an attack on our reproductive rights.
 
You do realize that I'm pro-choice and I perceive abortion to be a woman's right, right? So no, it's not the opposite. NEXT.

Well, it is the opposite since a ban on abortion would save the lives of.....females.....
 
It's patriarchal because of the people leading the attacks.


Good gawd, that's brass for ya.

Patriarchal.

That's the new talking point eh? :wassat1:


A year ago, Gallup found more women calling themselves pro-choice than pro-life, by 50% to 43%, while men were more closely divided: 49% pro-choice, 46% pro-life. Now, because of heightened pro-life sentiment among both groups, women as well as men are more likely to be pro-life.

Men and women have been evenly divided on the issue in previous years; however, this is the first time in nine years of Gallup Values surveys that significantly more men and women are pro-life than pro-choice.

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If it was all men, or mostly men, you might have a point. When it is virtually as many women as men, you have no legitimate reason to use "patriarchial" or pretend this is men attacking women.


Bah.

Nonsense.
 
Yes there is. When birth control methods are being questioned and abortion rights are continually being attacked. Rush calls women on the pill sluts but the guys that are screwing them are probably folk heroes. Romney wants to close Planned Parenthood. A endless line of protestors stand at women's health clinics. Yeah I would say there is an attack on our reproductive rights.

1. Birth control is never going to be banned.

2. People call women sluts all the time. Again, not a war on women.

3. Romney cannot close PP.

4. Protesting is very American.
 
Yes there is. When birth control methods are being questioned and abortion rights are continually being attacked. Rush calls women on the pill sluts but the guys that are screwing them are probably folk heroes. Romney wants to close Planned Parenthood. A endless line of protestors stand at women's health clinics. Yeah I would say there is an attack on our reproductive rights.

There is an attack on the murder of innocent unborn children.
 
That's weird because Santorum said that he supports states' rights to ban contraception and there are quite a few people who want to ban abortion. NEXT.

a states rights to ban or allow something should be allowed,some people absolutely hate abortion and if five states banned it those people can move to those five states,i get tired of democrats opposing state rights unless it involves marijuana,can we argue how federal government say marijuana is illegal and states dont have the right to legalize,or will you accept to eaches own and allow states to make individual laws giving people a choice rather than a federal mandated way of life.
 
One person does not a war make.
I said it wasn't a war in my first post in this thread.

Abortion has been an issue since abortion began. That isn't a new argument and it isn't designed to attack women, but to protect the "baby".
I don't think it's designed to attack women.
 
You do realize that banning abortion would be the OPPOSITE of a war on women, right?

And I don't know any state that would ban contraception. That's just fear-mongering from the left.
Banning abortion would put women into harms way. When you care more for a lump of cells than an actual living breathing person I wonder.
 
a states rights to ban or allow something should be allowed,some people absolutely hate abortion and if five states banned it those people can move to those five states,i get tired of democrats opposing state rights unless it involves marijuana,can we argue how federal government say marijuana is illegal and states dont have the right to legalize,or will you accept to eaches own and allow states to make individual laws giving people a choice rather than a federal mandated way of life.
I support states' rights on a lot things and I do not support legalization of marijuana in any form so those comments don't have much to do with me specifically. However, as someone who is pro-choice, I do not believe that abortion should be outlawed anywhere. I think that that would be a fundamental encroachment on women's right to privacy. Moreover, I also do not think states should be allowed to ban contraception because, again, of the right to privacy, but also because banning contraception would have ridiculous costs to society.
 
Banning abortion would put women into harms way. When you care more for a lump of cells than an actual living breathing person I wonder.

Not necessarily true. And abortion won't be banned...so it's just another wasted argument.
 
Can someone tell me what state wants to ban contraception?
 
Good gawd, that's brass for ya.

Patriarchal.

That's the new talking point eh? :wassat1:

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If it was all men, or mostly men, you might have a point. When it is virtually as many women as men, you have no legitimate reason to use "patriarchial" or pretend this is men attacking women.

Bah.

Nonsense.
Umm, I was talking about the POLITICIANS leading the attacks. You know like Romney and Santorum. They have penises. But if you're going to dismiss my comments with "oh that's just a talking point", don't bother responding again because I won't be.
 
My wife is a woman who fights the daily battle against the murder of innocent unborn children. And I support her in this war.
 
One person does not a war make. Abortion has been an issue since abortion began. That isn't a new argument and it isn't designed to attack women, but to protect the "baby".
It is designed not to protect a baby. It is designed to protect someones belief system that the fetus is a baby. It has nothing to do with life. The majority of anti-choice people i would say support wars which means killing innocent live and the death penalty and abortion in cases of rape and incest. All they want to do is play god and set the ground rules on who lives and who dies. They also want to be the ones who determine when life starts.
 
Banning abortion would put women into harms way. When you care more for a lump of cells than an actual living breathing person I wonder.

Better we should put innocent unborn citizens in harms way by murdering them.
 
It is designed not to protect a baby. It is designed to protect someones belief system that the fetus is a baby. It has nothing to do with life. The majority of anti-choice people i would say support wars which means killing innocent live and the death penalty and abortion in cases of rape and incest. All they want to do is play god and set the ground rules on who lives and who dies. They also want to be the ones who determine when life starts.

I say it has everything to do with life. I am against the death penalty and against interventionist wars as well.
 
It is designed not to protect a baby. It is designed to protect someones belief system that the fetus is a baby. It has nothing to do with life. The majority of anti-choice people i would say support wars which means killing innocent live and the death penalty and abortion in cases of rape and incest. All they want to do is play god and set the ground rules on who lives and who dies. They also want to be the ones who determine when life starts.

The same could be said for people who support abortion.
 
It is designed not to protect a baby. It is designed to protect someones belief system that the fetus is a baby. It has nothing to do with life. The majority of anti-choice people i would say support wars which means killing innocent live and the death penalty and abortion in cases of rape and incest. All they want to do is play god and set the ground rules on who lives and who dies. They also want to be the ones who determine when life starts.



Do you want to choose who dies. Are you playing god?
 
It is designed not to protect a baby. It is designed to protect someones belief system that the fetus is a baby. It has nothing to do with life. The majority of anti-choice people i would say support wars which means killing innocent live and the death penalty and abortion in cases of rape and incest. All they want to do is play god and set the ground rules on who lives and who dies. They also want to be the ones who determine when life starts.

NO offense, but since you aren't on that side, how do you know what they want or believe? What you're saying right here is a bunch of opposition rhetoric designed to devalue the ideology of the other side in an effort to maximize your own belief system. It doesn't further the debate and causes more harm than it prevents. Instead of insisting you know what the other side thinks, why don't you actively and respectfully converse with them. I think you'd be surprised, if you were willing to open your mind and truly listen.

Are their some people like what you describe? I'm sure. But they're a very, very small minority in the pro-life movement....and this is coming from somebody who is pro-choice.
 
I support states' rights on a lot things and I do not support legalization of marijuana in any form so those comments don't have much to do with me specifically. However, as someone who is pro-choice, I do not believe that abortion should be outlawed anywhere. I think that that would be a fundamental encroachment on women's right to privacy. Moreover, I also do not think states should be allowed to ban contraception because, again, of the right to privacy, but also because banning contraception would have ridiculous costs to society.

i guess my point is allowing states rights allows choice in itself.like i said if a binch of people were super christian they could move to a state thats super christian,and someone who hates christianity as a view for making laws could move to a state opposing it.

making the federal government choose on these issues is the same as taking away peoples choice to be individual,its like some people like chevy some ford some dodge,but if the federal government had its way everyone would be driving ford and choices would be gone on what a federal government chooses is best for its people without considering what state or local governments view is best.
 
1. Birth control is never going to be banned.

2. People call women sluts all the time. Again, not a war on women.

3. Romney cannot close PP.

4. Protesting is very American.

Oh so just because none of these things may be banned or happened in reality that doesn't mean that there is an attack on women's reproductive rights. That should have been stated in the OP and made this a debate in fantasy island. You justify attack LOL. So you like that broadcasters call women sluts. Shell we all take off oue shoes and get pregnant. I'm sure you wouldn't see that as attack either.
 
No there is no war on women. If anything we need more woman on woman love...you know for support and such.
 
It is designed not to protect a baby. It is designed to protect someones belief system that the fetus is a baby. It has nothing to do with life. The majority of anti-choice people i would say support wars which means killing innocent live and the death penalty and abortion in cases of rape and incest. All they want to do is play god and set the ground rules on who lives and who dies. They also want to be the ones who determine when life starts.
To be fair, a lot of this could be said for us pro-choicers as well. Although we aren't playing God in the sense that we have decided that a person definitely begins at X time, we are playing God in sense that we decide who should live and die. Moreover, a lot of pro-lifers see the abortion thing as a life vs. choice thing and they think life wins out. Consequently, I don't think it's fair to say "it isn't about life".

The entire abortion debate is a completely and totally a matter of perspective.
 
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