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Do parents know what good nutrition is?

Do parents already know what's healthy in terms of nutrition and exercise?

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Aunt Spiker said:
In my state over 70% of the adult population is overweight: no - they do not know about healthy eating habits to the point of being able to impliment it in a family diet or *wanting* to impliment it.

Southern foods are notoriously unhealthy and though veggies are also done southern style they're not in enough of a variety without added sugar, fats and oils to be worth it: corn doesn't count.
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but can anyone say no to fried catfish fried hushpuppies or buscuits and gravy that contains more lard than the rest of the ingredients combined?:lamo
 
beerftw said:
if you actually consider frozen and canned foods vs fresh fruits veggies and low fat meats,there is a massive difference in cost,if we had to eat alot of spagetti to feed 6 kids on a budget of 6 dollars a wekk for food,tell me how healthy food would have been an option?

im not exactly rich now but i eat healthier than when i was a kid,to say healthy food is cheaper your wrong,to say its not too expensive youd be right,but to alot of families that little bit extra is a little bit more than they can afford.
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You're wrong. The healthiest foods, like whole grain brown rice, for example, is cheap as dirt. And, bonus time, it actually grows as you cook it.

Potatoes, you can get them for less than 50 cents a pound. Lentils, cheap as dirt, huge amount of protein, very healthy.

Its smart to take the above foods and mix a little of the high fat foods with them. But most people base their meals on a meat main dish, and the other stuff is secondary.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
In my state over 70% of the adult population is overweight: no - they do not know about healthy eating habits to the point of being able to impliment it in a family diet or *wanting* to impliment it.

Southern foods are notoriously unhealthy and though veggies are also done southern style they're not in enough of a variety without added sugar, fats and oils to be worth it: corn doesn't count.
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Do you think people honestly don't know that fried foods are unhealthy?
 
tryreading said:
You're wrong. The healthiest foods, like whole grain brown rice, for example, is cheap as dirt. And, bonus time, it actually grows as you cook it.

Potatoes, you can get them for less than 50 cents a pound. Lentils, cheap as dirt, huge amount of protein, very healthy.

Its smart to take the above foods and mix a little of the high fat foods with them. But most people base their meals on a meat main dish, and the other stuff is secondary.
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but youre taking individual prices and not adding them up into a single meal,give me your monthly food budget and ill give you what i used to work with when i blew all my money on weed.
 
I agree that healthy food isn't always expensive. Have you seen how much a bag of Doritos or a box of Fruit Loops is lately? Whoa!
 
Josie said:
Do you think people honestly don't know that fried foods are unhealthy?
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I think they assume healthy = boring salads and bland veggies. Complete lack of concern and adventure in the kitchen is more of the issue.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
I think they assume healthy = boring salads and bland veggies. Complete lack of concern and adventure in the kitchen is more of the issue.
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I would agree with that. The fact that they don't investigate and educate themselves about how to cook good healthy food means that they most likely don't give a flying flip anyway.
 
beerftw said:
but youre taking individual prices and not adding them up into a single meal,give me your monthly food budget and ill give you what i used to work with when i blew all my money on weed.
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That is part of the problem, the idea that there has to be a traditional 'meal' with the meat (or fried catfish) entree and maybe a couple vegetables on the side.

Brown rice, with some dry beans slow-cooked and spiced, is a meal. You can eat until you're full, you won't gain weight, and you get all the protein you need. No hamburger meat or pork necessary.
 
Josie said:
Do you think people honestly don't know that fried foods are unhealthy?
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Aunt Spiker is right about that- fried is the preferred method of cooking down here. :mrgreen:
I grew up on fried foods- lots of them. The thing about that is, I was never fat, nor unhealthy in spite of that. I still have no adverse effects from eating virtually anything I want. My blood lipid levels are very good, and I don't have heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes or other problems as a result of growing up on fried foods. I honestly wonder if feeding kids a diet too low in fat has a paradoxical effect.
 
tryreading said:
That is part of the problem, the idea that there has to be a traditional 'meal' with the meat (or fried catfish) entree and maybe a couple vegetables on the side.

Brown rice, with some dry beans slow-cooked and spiced, is a meal. You can eat until you're full, you won't gain weight, and you get all the protein you need. No hamburger meat or pork necessary.
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i used to feed myself on 20 a month on frozen foods so i can buy as mich weed as possible,i was also part owner of that business i worked at,what were they gonna do fire the owner for coming in stoned :p

but the point is if you go through any major grocer you can buy frozen foods cheaper,you can look at somehing an say its cheap,but when you price all the ingrefients together your food bill goes up,in my apartment avoiding all frozen foods except ofcourse frozen lasagna,(my lasagna cost $40 dollars to make one vs $10 for a stouffers lasagna,if you ate mine youd understand where the extra 30 went,QUALITY!!)we added up the cost and it would cost all 4 of us around 130 a month to eat frozen burritos dollar mcdoubles dollar sweet teas and microwave meals,when we ate fresh meals i spent an average of $322 a month(which i paid because they said its too much money and they would rather have a heart attack than pay that much for good food.)


im 100% for healthy food but again there are costs with it,id say most people can afford,alot choose not to afford it and some would rather throw something in a microwave than actually cook.
 
btw tryreading my room mate was from georgia and he could give a million ways to cook beans and corn bread,no meat in it,he would just soak it in a ham bone for flavor only,combined with whole chiles for spice and some of neighbors would come a knocking saying they smell some bean soup and cornbread can i have some:cool:
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Michelle should tell people on welfare or food stamps how to eat, how to spend taxpayer dollars on real food not junk but when she tries to tell me how to spend my money I earn she can kiss my ass.
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Such a quality post. Impressive...

You realize many American First Ladies have taken on a project of some sort, right? 'Just say no,' for example? An effort to educate Americans, improve their lives in some way, you understand.

Taking it personally doesn't make any sense.
 
The side salad at McDonalds is also on the dollar menu. You don't always have to eat a fatty cheeseburger and fries.
 
Parent/people do not necessarily have the time, desire or ability to eat healthful foods. "Americans spend about $4,000 on food each year, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. At the same time, getting more calories from saturated fat and sugar reduces overall food costs". Processed foods are overall cheaper to eat than foods that are more nutritive.

"Adam Drewnowski, director of the center for public health nutrition at the University of Washington. Based on his findings, a 2,000-calorie diet would cost just $3.52 a day if it consisted of junk food, compared with $36.32 a day for a diet of low-energy dense foods. However, most people eat a mix of foods. The average American spends about $7 a day on food, although low-income people spend about $4, says Dr. Drewnowski.

But it’s easier to overeat junk food, Dr. Drewnowski adds, both because it tastes good and because eaters often must consume a greater volume in order to feel satisfied. Still, even those who consume twice as much in junk food calories are still spending far less than healthy eaters."
A High Price for Healthy Food - NYTimes.com
Eating healthy food costs more money in U.S. | Reuters
 
tryreading said:
Such a quality post. Impressive...

You realize many American First Ladies have taken on a project of some sort, right? 'Just say no,' for example? An effort to educate Americans, improve their lives in some way, you understand.

Taking it personally doesn't make any sense.
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Yes I take it personally when someone tells me what to buy with money I earn, I'm funny like that. Comparing "just say no" an anti drug slogan to "eat what I tell you" is absurd. It's obvious who's ass you kiss. Or I should say asses, plural. :lol:
 
beerftw said:
i used to feed myself on 20 a month on frozen foods so i can buy as mich weed as possible,i was also part owner of that business i worked at,what were they gonna do fire the owner for coming in stoned :p

but the point is if you go through any major grocer you can buy frozen foods cheaper,you can look at somehing an say its cheap,but when you price all the ingrefients together your food bill goes up,in my apartment avoiding all frozen foods except ofcourse frozen lasagna,(my lasagna cost $40 dollars to make one vs $10 for a stouffers lasagna,if you ate mine youd understand where the extra 30 went,QUALITY!!)we added up the cost and it would cost all 4 of us around 130 a month to eat frozen burritos dollar mcdoubles dollar sweet teas and microwave meals,when we ate fresh meals i spent an average of $322 a month(which i paid because they said its too much money and they would rather have a heart attack than pay that much for good food.)


im 100% for healthy food but again there are costs with it,id say most people can afford,alot choose not to afford it and some would rather throw something in a microwave than actually cook.
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Now I'm sick-you mentioned frozen lasagna. That's a heart attack popsicle, right there.

My point is there is a lot of misinformation and tradition that leads to a diet that's very unhealthy for us.

beerftw said:
btw tryreading my room mate was from georgia and he could give a million ways to cook beans and corn bread,no meat in it,he would just soak it in a ham bone for flavor only,combined with whole chiles for spice and some of neighbors would come a knocking saying they smell some bean soup and cornbread can i have some
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This is a better way to eat. The beans cooked with meat flavor, but very little of the fat.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
Yes I take it personally when someone tells me what to buy with money I earn, I'm funny like that. Comparing "just say no" an anti drug slogan to "eat what I tell you" is absurd. It's obvious who's ass you kiss. Or I should say asses, plural. :lol:
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One First Lady is telling people to say no to drugs, another is telling folks to say no to poor diets. Sounds pretty similar, to me.

A lot more people die from disease associated with the western diet than from drug abuse. Not a bad thing to educate people on, those with the ability to learn.
 
tryreading said:
Now I'm sick-you mentioned frozen lasagna. That's a heart attack popsicle, right there.

My point is there is a lot of misinformation and tradition that leads to a diet that's very unhealthy for us.



This is a better way to eat. The beans cooked with meat flavor, but very little of the fat.
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when you make bean soup youll be shocked at how something so gross looking uncooked turns into something so delicious,you can also substitute ham bone if you have none for a few strips of bacon,though bacon would increase the fat content and doesnt taste as good as the flavor ham bone delivers.

when its done which actually takes about 15 hours to cook the beans right you take the corn bread and crumble it into the bean soup,you have flavor and filling in one meal,not the most nutritional but for low fat calories it makes a great dinner or lunch as long as you diversafy you other meals.
 
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beerftw said:
when you make bean soup youll be shocked at how something so gross looking uncooked turns into something so delicious,you can also substitute ham bone if you have none for a few strips of bacon,though bacon would increase the fat content and doesnt taste as good as the flavor ham bone delivers.

when its done which actually takes about 15 hours to cook the beans right you take the corn bread and crumble it into the bean soup,you have flavor and filling in one meal,not the most nutritional but for low fat calories it makes a great dinner or lunch as long as you diversafy you other meals.
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Its more nutritional than many typical meals, if you think low fat content is important. Because you have a lot of the good stuff in there, vitamins and protein, but very little of the bad stuff, fat.
 
tryreading said:
One First Lady is telling people to say no to drugs, another is telling folks to say no to poor diets. Sounds pretty similar, to me.

A lot more people die from disease associated with the western diet than from drug abuse. Not a bad thing to educate people on, those with the ability to learn.
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But everyone knows that cocaine and cheeseburgers are bad for you. We don't need to spend millions of dollars to "teach" something that everyone knows already.
 
Josie said:
Michelle Obama recently said:



Do we need to spend money teaching parents about healthy eating and exercise habits? Or do you believe most parents already know this (even if they don't encourage a healthy diet/exercise routine for their children)?
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Well, since 50% of Mississippi think Obama's birth cert is a fake... adults aren't always as bright as we would hope, in this modern world.

Staying on Topic:

I'd say it's an education / culture thing -- something you pass down to your kids, but each generation can improve.

It's not an all or nothing question, I'd bet there's some studies somewhere about what percentage of parents really know how to properly feed their children, and what are the factors that lead to good nutritional habits. I would guess, but couldn't say for sure, that income level may also play a part.
 
Josie said:
Or do you believe most parents already know this (even if they don't encourage a healthy diet/exercise routine for their children)?
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This would mean most parents are engaged in some mild form of systematic child neglect or abuse. If you know that an unhealthy diet and no exercise can lead to obesity, and you have the resources to provide a healthy diet, and just don't do it... because why?
 
again fried catfish and hush puppies!

once you eat southern breakfast you will realize their food is like crack,its so good you cant say no!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Josie said:
But everyone knows that cocaine and cheeseburgers are bad for you. We don't need to spend millions of dollars to "teach" something that everyone knows already.
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Not everyone knows that the high fat entrees you buy in the grocery store can be bad for you, if you eat more than a small amount.

I think it was you that mentioned the food pyramid earlier. I believe its predecessor was the four food groups campaign that went on for many years in different forms, and was wrong. If I remember right, it had a dairy or milk food group, and there's no such thing. I don't think that misinformation has been corrected yet.

But, big picture, the population is getting fatter every year. I don't see where the government offering information on diet and obesity is a problem.
 
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