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Are Homosexuals Oppressed?

Are Homosexuals oppressed in America?

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Currently, do you think homosexuals are oppressed in America?

oppressed
Verb:
1.Keep (someone) in subservience and hardship, esp. by the unjust exercise of authority.
2.Cause (someone) to feel distressed, anxious, or uncomfortable: "he was oppressed by worry".
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Thank you for clearing that up.
Although personally, yes, to a certain degree.
 
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Currently, do you think homosexuals are oppressed in America?

oppressed
Verb:
1.Keep (someone) in subservience and hardship, esp. by the unjust exercise of authority.
2.Cause (someone) to feel distressed, anxious, or uncomfortable: "he was oppressed by worry".

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Yes.

1. They are made subservient by the government in regards to marriage and adoption.
2. They (some of them, particularly younger ones) are caused to distress, anxiety and discomfort by those who advocate #1 or in other ways tell them they are inferior, mentally ill, disgusting and so on.

That was easy.
 
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Yes.

1. They are made subservient by the government in regards to marriage and adoption.
2. They (some of them, particularly younger ones) are caused to distress, anxiety and discomfort by those who advocate #1 or in other ways tell them they are inferior, mentally ill, disgusting and so on.

That was easy.

I tend to place a higher standard on oppression, like the Jewish oppression at the hand of the Nazis, or my great-grandparents under slavery.

If homosexuals can be multi-millionaires, own their own businesses, say what they want, where they want, when they want, among other things, then I don't see that as oppression.
 
I don't see how not redefining marriage is oppression. Likewise, I don't see how the government mandates opression against homosexuals by saying they're inferior, mentally ill, etc. Some say that merely believing that homosexuality is a sin is disrespectful bullying, and therefore oppression.

Imo "oppression" is being used way out of context. Would it anger blacks or Jews to think that their actual oppressions could be equated with the non-redefinition of marriage?
 
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I think it matters where you are. If you're in New York, DC, SF etc...large metropolitan areas I'm sure it's completely different than Dothan Alabama. My best friend throughout High School and college came out of the closet. After he finished law school one of the biggest factors for him deciding where he wanted to start his career was if the place had a decent gay population.
 
No, I don't think that homosexuals are generally oppressed. I don't see it in my workplace, and I don't see it in my personal life either. I do remember very well what it used to be like, particularly for gay men, and am grateful that those times are over. Whatever the issue, there will always be ignoids, but if you're talking about widespread oppression, I don't see it.
 
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If you consider we can't marry in every state and there have been amendments to state constitutions against us and since we are the first group ever to have had that happen I would say to a degree we are oppressed.
In many states we can't adopt as a couple or family I would say we were oppressed.
The oppression experienced by gays prior to the early seventies has lightened up. But there is an intense bigotry across the US that has not changed. I'm not sure that for many that will ever change.
 
In many (although not all) areas of the country, efforts are being made, both socially and politically, to keep homosexuals and homosexuality out of the public spotlight and to stigmatize the practice. These efforts take many forms and result in very real limitations on the ability of homosexuals to express themselves, plan for the future, feel secure in their employment, and otherwise lead "normal" lives. The most chilling effect is on young people, many of whom feel so stigmatized by their families and their peers that they have to lie for years about what they feel, or worse, take their own lives.

No, gays are not being rounded up, imprisoned, executed, or experimented on. But I don't think those are the sole hallmarks of oppression.
 
I tend to place a higher standard on oppression, like the Jewish oppression at the hand of the Nazis, or my great-grandparents under slavery.

If homosexuals can be multi-millionaires, own their own businesses, say what they want, where they want, when they want, among other things, then I don't see that as oppression.

Jews were wealthy and could own businesses in Nazi Germany up until a certain time period. Hell, a select few blacks were wealthy, and they sure as hell owned their own businesses during the Jim Crow era and in apartheid South Africa. Doesn't mean there weren't oppressive policies and societal attitudes.
 
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Jews could own businesses in Nazi Germany up until a certain time period. Hell, a select few blacks were wealthy, and they sure as hell owned their own businesses during the Jim Crow era and in apartheid South Africa. Doesn't mean there weren't oppressive policies and societal attitudes.

Are homosexuals forced into slavery, not allowed to speak, could be killed at a whim, killed in gas chambers, not allowed to own property, or enter/leave the country?

Why is marriage such an aspect of oppression? Why is it that if you can't redefine marriage, you're suddenly oppressed? And even then, there are states in America that allow gay marriage.
 
I tend to place a higher standard on oppression, like the Jewish oppression at the hand of the Nazis, or my great-grandparents under slavery.

If homosexuals can be multi-millionaires, own their own businesses, say what they want, where they want, when they want, among other things, then I don't see that as oppression.
It doesn't really matter what your "standard" is because gay people are oppressed according to the definition you provided. If you don't see them as being oppressed, then you're just ignoring the definition. Can't really help you there.
 
I tend to place a higher standard on oppression, like the Jewish oppression at the hand of the Nazis, or my great-grandparents under slavery.

If homosexuals can be multi-millionaires, own their own businesses, say what they want, where they want, when they want, among other things, then I don't see that as oppression.

Do you now. How about prior to the early 70's when gays were jailed for no reason beyond sexuality? How about when they were subject to laws that could put them in mental hospitals?
Then there were hate crimes committed against us. How about when parents toss you out of your home and lock the door when they find out? How about in other places that can take your life if they find out you're gay? Police action in many areas was always lacking and still is to a degree. No we're just really everyone's number one citizen. LOL
 
It doesn't really matter what your "standard" is because gay people are oppressed according to the definition you provided. If you don't see them as being oppressed, then you're just ignoring the definition. Can't really help you there.

I don't see how homosexuals are kept in subservience and hardship by the unjust exercise of authority.

There are many groups, including white, that feel distressed/anxious/uncomfortable; are they oppressed? I'm "uncomfortable" that I can't currently afford a ferrari, or go on a cruise; is that oppression?
 
I wouldn't use the word "opressed." Seems too harsh. But without a doubt, gays in the US are considered second class citizens for the most part.
 
Do you now. How about prior to the early 70's when gays were jailed for no reason beyond sexuality? How about when they were subject to laws that could put them in mental hospitals?
Then there were hate crimes committed against us. How about when parents toss you out of your home and lock the door when they find out? How about in other places that can take your life if they find out you're gay? Police action in many areas was always lacking and still is to a degree. No we're just really everyone's number one citizen. LOL

Are those things currently happening? I don't believe I see my cousin being jailed, but that he's going to Wisconsin University. Nor do I see homosexuals being taken to mental hospitals.

Also, is "hate crime/hate" being misused? Last I checked believing homosexuality itself was a sin for religious reasons is neither hate nor hate crime.

Is Ellen Degeneres oppressed? How about Elton John?
 
Yes, homosexuals are oppressed in this country.

and NO, this isn't a matter of opinion.

The degree of oppression has thankfully changed (through hard work, sacrifice, organizing, and endurance)...but it is still oppression.

It is still the case that homosexuals face systematic, socially condoned mistreatment waged against them on the basis of their (real or perceived)* identity as homosexuals.







*as perceived by the perpetrator (I'm not one of those idiots who pretends that orientation is a choice)
 
I wouldn't use the word "opressed." Seems too harsh. But without a doubt, gays in the US are considered second class citizens for the most part.

Second-class citizens? Ellen has a major talk show, we have numerous gay singers, various commercials involving them, etc. I guess when you're able to audition at American Idol you know you're oppressed.

I bet my great-grandparents would turn in their to see true oppression be misused in such an overly-sensitive way. Let's see homosexuals be in shackles, be unable to vote or own property, etc; perhaps then they would understand that actual meaning of oppression.
 
There are many groups, including white, that feel distressed/anxious/uncomfortable; are they oppressed? I'm "uncomfortable" that I can't currently afford a ferrari, or go on a cruise; is that oppression?
Ah, yes, the white oppression of not being able to afford a ferrari...

The difference is that you have no absolute right to do any of those things. Marriage, however, is a fundamental right.
 
Are homosexuals forced into slavery, not allowed to speak, could be killed at a whim, killed in gas chambers, not allowed to own property, or enter/leave the country?

Why is marriage such an aspect of oppression? Why is it that if you can't redefine marriage, you're suddenly oppressed? And even then, there are states in America that allow gay marriage.
Gosh we are not even to know how are partner is doing in a hospital without special documentation. Do you need that?
 
Let's see homosexuals be in shackles, be unable to vote or own property, etc; perhaps then they would understand that actual meaning of oppression.
You sound like you are advocating this.
 
I don't see how homosexuals are kept in subservience and hardship by the unjust exercise of authority.
Being considered a second class citizen unworthy of marriage and adoption rights means that you are considered subservient to straight people. Because there is no rational reason to keep them as second class citizens, then the exercise of authority is unjust.

There are many groups, including white, that feel distressed/anxious/uncomfortable; are they oppressed? I'm "uncomfortable" that I can't currently afford a ferrari, or go on a cruise; is that oppression?
I'm really tempted to get an infraction here, but I'll keep it clean. "Feeling distressed" is not the definition of oppression you provided. "Causing someone to feel distress, etc." is the definition and a large portion of society causes many gay people to feel distress. So yes, they are oppressed.
 
You sound like you are advocating this.

Of course not.

However, they should appreciate the meaning of actual oppression, instead of equating the inability to redefine marriage to being in slavery/being killed by Nazi Germans, etc.
 
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