Agreed. Preborns shouldn't have their health decided by someone else.
Who is demanding the government pay for abortions and birth control??
Yes, because I suppose they have the ability to consent, correct?
Nice to see who the men are who feel threatened by the prospect of women controlling their own health issues and reproductive systems...
What ever will I do. :roll:
Exactly. If a preborn doesn't consent to termination, it shouldn't happen...
...not that suicide should be legal anyway.
Just what you've always done...Digsbe...
It can't consent to being born either. What's the difference?
There isn't. That act of coercion is where the duty of care to provide comes from.
Do MEN have a Right to CONTROL Women's Health and Reproductive Systems?
1. Yes?
2. No?
3. Under Certain Circumstances (Briefly list what circumstance(s))
4. Does a male dominated government have the right to legislate controls over women's health issues and reproduction?
5. Does a male dominated religion have the right, through its teachings and doctrine, to have to control over women's health issues and reproduction ?
It can't consent to being born either. What's the difference?
What coercion? There is no duty to provide care to something which has no interest in its own care one way or the other.
Take the correct viewpoint, rise above the partisan stupidity, and support the right of the unborn and correcting the atrocity of elective abortions? I'll continue to do that.
Stop trying to push your illogical ranting that men who are pro-life are scared of empowered women or are sexists and the blatantly sexist viewpoint that men should have no vote or say in the abortion debate.
We are responsible for our health not the males.
Depends, if a woman has her brain sucked out and head carved up by a doctor and then is sucked through a vacuum tube that is narrower than her body, does that constitute a women's health issue?
In what part of the OP did I rant about anything.
My partisan...what?
Nice to see who the men are who feel threatened by the prospect of women controlling their own health issues and reproductive systems...
Birth is moving from one side of the mother's skin to another. Being terminated means it is killed. You can't see the difference? It doesn't consent to being put in a crib either, does that mean you can kill your born baby and that's ok too?
Prove it..
The poll choices are skewed and biased. This is the post I have the most problems with.
Males who are pro-life aren't fearful of empowered women, hate women, or want them to be at their mercy while they live their lives barefoot and pregnant. It's a more partisan attack against those with a certain viewpoint that is based on nothing more than perceived biases and a desire t view the other side as morally degenerate and sexist.
It's akin to pro-lifers who will make attacks saying that women who get abortions are murderers or that pro-choice individuals are nothing more than sexually immoral baby killers that hate children.
Digsbe...your a mod...shutdown the poll if it violates any site rules...
But the poll itself...how is it biased? It's just a question. It has four options in which to respond. Did you vote?
Do I really need to prove to you that something which doesn't even have a brain can't consent?
Do you think people in vegetative states can consent?
It doesn't violate any rules.
I think the poll is biased based on the wording of the questions asked and the poll choices. And I cannot vote, because my view isn't to "control women's health issues and reproductive systems." My view is that reproductive "rights" and choice end at pregnancy because at that point two lives are in play and the option at that point is to kill another human in the pursuit of "reproductive rights." I support the rights of the unborn to live, be born, and have their lives without someone else terminating them in their early stages.It misrepresents my viewpoint. You might believe that my viewpoint is essentially controlling women's health issues and reproductive rights, and that's your opinion from your viewpoint. From my viewpoint it's about protecting innocent unborn life and not giving someone the power to terminate the life of another human and have that right encompassed under the umbrella of bodily sovereignty and reproductive choice.
If someone ties you down and puts a strip of duct tape over your mouth, can you consent?
I think judging people to be in vegetative states is a risk.
Personhood entails assuming risks for yourself. If someone else assumes a risk for you, that person is strictly liable.
Yes women are in charge of our own health concerns. Why should males control our health matters? What would give you that right? What concern is it of yours?Men are excluded from "we" because...?