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Right to die

Right to die

  • People have no right to die under any circumstance

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Do people have the right to die and take their own lives? Should healthcare professionals be allowed to aid patients in taking their lives in a painless and more dignified manner? Should we criminalize suicide or remove criminal status?

What are you opinions on suicide/self-deliverance/right to die?
 
My answer would be yes. People have the right to die.

At the same time, people also have a responsibility to their friends and loved ones, and oftentimes asking for death could potentially be an act of complete selfishness contrary to the needs of those loved ones.
 
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If we would treat humans like we do our beloved pets, then there wouldn't be such pain. Selfishness are those who want the person to live and it's for their own needs..not the one wanting to "go".
 
To be honest...I'm ready. But I won't "go" until I am no longer in my right mind due to extreme pain. Going now means I'd be showing up uninvited. Who wants a guest to show up at your door asking where to put their toothbrush? Nobody. So why would God feel any different? I will not go uninvited or not called. Unless my brain is so messed up due to pain where I can't think straight. Then I'll go..invited or not. And I won't rely on any damn doctor to do it. I can do it myself. And will.
 
I personally support a right to die for any reason. Suicide attempts should not be criminalized and I think that people should be able to obtain items in order to end their lives in a dignified and painless manner.

I also think it's wrong when people say suicidal individuals are "selfish" and make them look like villains. It takes a high level of emotional hell and personal suffering before someone decides that what's best for them is to not live. I do think that people have a responsibility to their loves ones, but ultimately they should have the right to die and legally end their lives.
 
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This is a strange, but good topic. I feel that if the person can speak, has a terminal illness and wishes for a painless death then yes. However, I recently had a man who was a father figure commit suicide. He was a great guy. Funny always happy. Showed no signs, but it was later found that he was hurting for money and stopped taking anti-deppresant pills to save money. If someone fails at committing suicide they should be put in a mental hospital and released when they are declared to safe to others and themselves.
 
I support euthanasia (including assisted euthanasia) under a very limited set of circumstances. The person would need to be of sound mind, or have written it into a living will when they WERE of sound mind. And they would have to be terminally ill and in chronic pain. I would also support euthanasia for people convicted of crimes in which they were facing 20+ years in prison, because I regard that fate to be on par with being terminally ill and in chronic pain, in terms of quality of life.
 
This is always a tough subject, and of course shrouded in emotionalism.

When one speaks of "rights" one really has to sit back and actually look at what rights mean.

Rights are defined as the legal, social, or ethical principles of freedom or entitlement; that is, rights are the fundamental normative rules about what is allowed of people or owed to people, according to some legal system, social convention, or ethical theory.

Saying someone has the "right" to die can be tricky.

As a fully functional and healthy human being I have the ability to die at any moment of my choosing, as long as I have the guts to do it, so to talk about whether I have the right to die is kind of redundant, as I cannot face any consequences whatsoever for ending my own life.

A crippled, terminally ill person does not have the ability to die at any moment of their choosing, and so that's where the real ethical and moral implications come into play.

There are many views on this of course, from the "they absolutely have the right to have the plug pulled on them if they choose" to the "all life is sacred and we aren't allowed to play god".

I know if it was me, if I was vegetable, trapped inside my own body, being fed through a tube, bathed by strangers every day, I'd want the plug pulled on me faster then Mitt Romney position reversal. But one also has to consider the feelings of my family, which family member would have the heart to actually do it, and is it fair that I put them in that position?

On the other hand some people are not so righteous, and abuse may take place.

My answer is simple, suicide attempts should not be illegal, it's redundant and stupid and it doesn't solve anything. It's redundant for a healthy person, able person to have a "right" to die, as they can do so anytime, mentally allowing and when it comes to the terminally ill, where their suffering is so intense and there is no chance of recovery, it should be decided on a case by case basis which isn't perfect but I'd welcome anyone to go through that suffering with no end in sight and say they'd rather not die.
 
I personally support a right to die for any reason. Suicide attempts should not be criminalized and I think that people should be ale to obtain items able to end their lives in a dignified and painless manner.

I also think it's wrong when people say suicidal individuals are "selfish" and make them look like villains. It takes a high level of emotional hell and personal suffering before someone decides that what's best for them is to not live. I do think that people have a responsibility to their loves ones, but ultimately they should have the right to die and legally end their lives.

People who are depressed and suicidal should NOT have a "right" to die. They are mentally unwell and not of sound mind to make such a decision. Often, depression sets in in the late teens and early twenties, when the person has their entire life ahead of them. Their depression may just be a snapshot of one moment in a life that would be full of happiness. People should not be able to kill themselves under those circumstances. That's very different than someone who is terminally ill.
 
Ultimately, the "right to death" is a somewhat inevitable one. After all, if one truly wishes to die, how could anyone other individual stop them?

However, I feel, as fellow human beings, we should do all we can to help those who feel the need to take their own life. It seems that more often a wish to commit suicide is not entirely a wish of death, but more a realization of being trapped and a desperate attempt to escape, something that CAN be remedied beyond suicide.

Let's assume for a moment we did criminalize suicide. The result then would be the people who truly wanted to die being dead, making enforcement impossible, or a criminalization of a tormented individual who responded to a desperate situation in a way that neither lead to any victim nor will lead to any societal gain from criminalization.

If you mean, specifically, assisted suicide, then I believe that such an institution is counter to the duty of healthcare. Suicide should be at all levels greatly discouraged and fought against, so a person who does decide to end it was truly serious and not just looking for an escape.
 
Kandahar has stated my position to a tee.
 
Oregon got it right. I wonder if the Feds have backed off contesting the Assisted Suicide law that only one state has the decency to pass.
 
I think that people should be able to commit suicide, especially if they are in severe pain and healthcare professionals should be able to aid them.

However, I don't think all attempts should always be legal. An example that comes to mind is a person who throws him/herself into traffic. Another is suicide by cop. As long as the attempt does not break any other laws and it is only their life ending or them getting hurt (besides emotionally), it should be their choice.

I do think that helping them if they are showing signs that they may commit suicide is important though, particularly if the person is not terminally ill or in some extreme, never-ending physical pain.
 
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Everyone has the natural right to die. It doesn't matter if they are mentally ill, or if they are of stable mind, all that is just emotional nonsense that blocks the right.
 
To clarify, when I mean "right" I'm mainly saying that the government shouldn't prevent you from being allowed to end your life. I'm mainly looking at how if someone chooses to commit suicide and their attempt fails that they can be criminally charged with trying to take their own life.
 
To clarify, when I mean "right" I'm mainly saying that the government shouldn't prevent you from being allowed to end your life. I'm mainly looking at how if someone chooses to commit suicide and their attempt fails that they can be criminally charged with trying to take their own life.

I would agree with this. If someone attempts suicide they should receive mental health treatment, not incarceration.
 
To clarify, when I mean "right" I'm mainly saying that the government shouldn't prevent you from being allowed to end your life. I'm mainly looking at how if someone chooses to commit suicide and their attempt fails that they can be criminally charged with trying to take their own life.

IMO, that seems counter productive. What would be the premise for such a criminalization? I suppose one could argue that suicide is a dissenting action counter to a functional society, though in light of an utter lack of victim or direct damage to society, said criminalization would be fairly Fascist in nature.
 
IMO, that seems counter productive. What would be the premise for such a criminalization? I suppose one could argue that suicide is a dissenting action counter to a functional society, though in light of an utter lack of victim or direct damage to society, said criminalization would be fairly Fascist in nature.

I think he's agreeing with you. Digs doesn't think that criminalization should happen with suicide attempts.
 
I think he's agreeing with you. Digs doesn't think that criminalization should happen with suicide attempts.

It would be pretty redundant lol.

"You wanna kill yourself do you? But you failed? Let's put you San Quentin or Rikers Island, you'll definitely feel better in there :2razz:"
 
I'm mainly looking at how if someone chooses to commit suicide and their attempt fails that they can be criminally charged with trying to take their own life.

What would this solve? Why not get the person who attempts to take their own life help rather than putting them in prison?
 
It would be pretty redundant lol.

"You wanna kill yourself do you? But you failed? Let's put you San Quentin or Rikers Island, you'll definitely feel better in there :2razz:"

Yeah, makes no sense to me. I do not agree with doctor assisted suicide in cases where one is mentally ill, however, that doesn't prevent them from taking their own lives without assistance.
 
It would be pretty redundant lol.

"You wanna kill yourself do you? But you failed? Let's put you San Quentin or Rikers Island, you'll definitely feel better in there :2razz:"

Yeah, for some reason I get the feeling that throwing someone who feels trapped in a locked cell would somehow be counter productive to their health.
 
What would this solve? Why not get the person who attempts to take their own life help rather than putting them in prison?

Again... this is not digsbe's position. Read posts #15 and #16.
 
Yeah, for some reason I get the feeling that throwing someone who feels trapped in a locked cell would somehow be counter productive to their health.

Yes. But niether digsbe nor CC has taken that position.

The position that they should recieve mental health treatment after a suicide attempt is pretty acceptable.
 
I've never heard of attempted suicide being a "crime" in the sense that someone would be convicted and punished for it. In the places where it's a crime, it's only a crime so that law enforcement has the legal authority to detain the person and get them the help that they need.
 
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