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Death Penalty

Should there be a death penalty?

  • Yes

    Votes: 55 47.0%
  • No

    Votes: 45 38.5%
  • Under certain circumstances, please explain

    Votes: 17 14.5%

  • Total voters
    117
^ Why is it a necessary punishment?
 
I don't believe in punishment for the sake of punishment. I believe in punishment for the sake of deterrence. I see punishment for the sake of punishment to be a fallacious endeavor, i.e. I don't support the "killing the killer" justification.
 
I don't believe in punishment for the sake of punishment. I believe in punishment for the sake of deterrence. I see punishment for the sake of punishment to be a fallacious endeavor, i.e. I don't support the "killing the killer" justification.

no psycho or serail killer can change..
 
100% all for the death penalty.

Especially with todays technology, while Id like to see the system improve and the evidence needed for it tighter Im all for it and in fact id like to expand it. More crimes need to be considered for it.
 
I think the Death Penalty is requested far more often than it should be, even in circumstantial cases, and is too often used as a bullying tactic to get concessions from the defendant.

The Death Penalty should be rare, and it's not. There should be incontravertable proof, bodies in the freezer, items from victims found in the defendants house, DNA evidence, etc. There should be more than one murder involved... serial killers, mass murders should be eligible for the Death Penalty, not the who commited a single armed robbery that went bad. Did y'all know that the average prison time for a man who kills his SO is 7 years? Kill a stranger, face the Death Penalty.

Yeah. Our justice system is flawed as hell, and mis-use of the Death Penalty is part and parcel of it.
 
Here is the poster boy for capital punishment:

Prosecutor Says John Couey Raped, Buried Jessica Lunsford Alive | Fox News

"Sex offender John Evander Couey stole 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford from her home, raped her, wrapped her in garbage bags, then left her alive in a dirt hole to suffocate to death, a prosecutor said Thursday during opening arguments in the case."

So long as there are people like him, there will be a need for the death penalty. Personally, I agree with others who have said that lethal injection is too nice. Lions need to eat. So do sharks. There is something just about a guy like this meeting his end the way his victim met her end--being mauled by a remorseless, mindless brute.
 
What do you think of the death penalty.


I think it should be the ultimate punishment for various crimes assuming there is evidence beyond a doubt that proves the accused did the crime.
 
No, we should not have the death penalty. Innocent people have already died even though the courts felt the sentences were foolproof, and that is reason enough to stop this barbaric practice. Aside from that, the litigation (which is 100% necessary to ensure guilt) makes the death penalty significantly more costly.

We are the only western nation that still executes our own people for crimes, and should join the modern world already. Murdering our inmates makes us no better than the murderers themselves.

And in any case, I see life in prison as far worse than giving them the freedom of death.
 
No, we should not have the death penalty. Innocent people have already died even though the courts felt the sentences were foolproof, and that is reason enough to stop this barbaric practice. Aside from that, the litigation (which is 100% necessary to ensure guilt) makes the death penalty significantly more costly.

We are the only western nation that still executes our own people for crimes, and should join the modern world already. Murdering our inmates makes us no better than the murderers themselves.

And in any case, I see life in prison as far worse than giving them the freedom of death.

Murder is a legal technicality. Since executions are legal then it is not murder to execute a murderer.
 
Murder is a legal technicality. Since executions are legal then it is not murder to execute a murderer.

I don't care about your legal distinctions. It's wrong to kill other people, whether it's the state doing it or a murderer doing it.

An eye for an eye is hypocrisy. It doesn't restore balance, it creates further imbalance to the friends and family of the person being executed.
 
What do you think of the death penalty.

The generalized use of the death penalty innately consumes innocent life. As such, and as we reap relatively little benefit as a society at large from the death penalty, it makes little to no sense to actually keep it.
 
The generalized use of the death penalty innately consumes innocent life. As such, and as we reap relatively little benefit as a society at large from the death penalty, it makes little to no sense to actually keep it.

I disagree, but I do believe that it should be only used at federal level (exp: Jim McViegh) and not state levels.
 
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When we advance as a nation, the death penalty will be a thing of the past..
Do the Swiss have a death penalty ?
Does the death penalty work ?
When younger, I favored the penalty....more thought...more knowledge....my mind is changed.
But, I am but one man, we are truly savages...and we have a long ways to go..
 
Here is the poster boy for capital punishment:

Prosecutor Says John Couey Raped, Buried Jessica Lunsford Alive | Fox News

"Sex offender John Evander Couey stole 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford from her home, raped her, wrapped her in garbage bags, then left her alive in a dirt hole to suffocate to death, a prosecutor said Thursday during opening arguments in the case."

So long as there are people like him, there will be a need for the death penalty. Personally, I agree with others who have said that lethal injection is too nice. Lions need to eat. So do sharks. There is something just about a guy like this meeting his end the way his victim met her end--being mauled by a remorseless, mindless brute.

I think that you don't need controversy on whether it is humane not to hinder what is trying to be accomplished by this sort of punishment. So I do disagree with your ways off execution.

Yet, take a look at Donald Bloom also (he should have never been free) and you may see there may be a need to have these sex offenders being tried at federal levels, they are that heinous of crimes were we can implement it.
 
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When we advance as a nation, the death penalty will be a thing of the past..
Do the Swiss have a death penalty ?
Does the death penalty work ?
When younger, I favored the penalty....more thought...more knowledge....my mind is changed.
But, I am but one man, we are truly savages...and we have a long ways to go..

I don't believe it has anything to do with "advancement" of your society. I used to be totally opposed of it until I had children of my own.
 
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Targetting captives is wrong.
 
I disagree, but I do believe that it should be only used at federal level (exp: Jim McViegh) and not state levels.

Well it does innately consume innocent life, so you can't be disagreeing with that. Which leaves "we reap relatively little benefit as a society as large from the death penalty". So perhaps then you can demonstrate these grand benefits the aggregate of society reaps from the death penalty.
 
Well it does innately consume innocent life, so you can't be disagreeing with that. Which leaves "we reap relatively little benefit as a society as large from the death penalty". So perhaps then you can demonstrate these grand benefits the aggregate of society reaps from the death penalty.

Yes that part too, sorry unless you have a good case of this, I may even be able to point out some things. (per to the view I expressed already)
 
Yes that part too, sorry unless you have a good case of this, I may even be able to point out some things.

How about the fact that in the deployment of the death penalty many people innocent of the crime charged were put to death? Not enough? Illinois before it's moratorium had exonerated more death row inmates than executed. The moratorium was put in place because they found that over half the death row inmates were innocent of the crime charged. And didn't a Texas governor recently rush through an execution almost certainly known before hand to be that of an innocent prisoner?

The Death Penalty innately consumes innocent life since we are not privilege to absolute knowledge.
 
I believe revenge should not be the motivating force in a legal system and I don't think death penalty is an effective deterrant.

I believe it encourages violent crime by justifying the rationalization of murder.

The most pragmatic argument against the death penalty probably is that mistakes happen in any legal system, and death penalty cannot be reversed when a mistake was made.

I find the most pragmatic arguments to be:

1. Targetting captives is wrong.
2. The DP encourages violent crime (as above).
 
How about the fact that in the deployment of the death penalty many people innocent of the crime charged were put to death? Not enough? Illinois before it's moratorium had exonerated more death row inmates than executed. The moratorium was put in place because they found that over half the death row inmates were innocent of the crime charged. And didn't a Texas governor recently rush through an execution almost certainly known before hand to be that of an innocent prisoner?

The Death Penalty innately consumes innocent life since we are not privilege to absolute knowledge.
Go back and please read my existing posts, you will see this is out of scope of my view of the death penalty unless you can state how it isn't, sorry sometimes I misinterpret peoples posts.
 
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