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Should Employers be Forced to Pay for Porn?

Should society pay for porn?

  • Yes, men should have free, risk-free avenues for sexual satisfaction too

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • No, civil rights only apply to minority groups

    Votes: 1 4.8%
  • No, the government should not pay, or force others to pay, for sex

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • No, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard because...

    Votes: 13 61.9%

  • Total voters
    21
some how I doubt that, I doubt its that easy my REAL insurance didnt pay for all that I had percentages.

what was the deductible are you telling me id pay like 500$ and then all the tests x-rays, exams, mri's, surgery, and meds would cost nothing?

I dont think so, all that stuff cost me plenty with insurance.

It may have changed, I ordered the info packet years ago.
However, this is almost exactly what my employer offers me now.
 
It may have changed, I ordered the info packet years ago.
However, this is almost exactly what my employer offers me now.


yes your employer im talking about personal insurance that youd have to get on your own, you lost me?
 
Humana has a couple of options list, HSA with 100% coinsurance after the deductible is met.
Individual Health Insurance Plans to Fit Your Healthcare Needs

Not sure of the monthly prices though.

thats what the home page says but so did others I looked at until they actully sent me my eligible plans or i talked to someone.

Like I said i tried about 15 different kinds and nothing was comparable to what I got through my employer and it was 700+ for all of them.
 
thats what the home page says but so did others I looked at until they actully sent me my eligible plans or i talked to someone.

Like I said i tried about 15 different kinds and nothing was comparable to what I got through my employer and it was 700+ for all of them.

I briefly looked over the details.
It said it covers 100% of most of your medical needs.

Most being the definitive word, would have to look into it further.
 
I briefly looked over the details.
It said it covers 100% of most of your medical needs.

Most being the definitive word, would have to look into it further.


thats my point but no mention of emergency room visits, coverage on meds and it says "in network" sometimes thats a crock!
 
thats my point but no mention of emergency room visits, coverage on meds and it says "in network" sometimes thats a crock!


Sitting in the ER last night with my X girlfriend she had to pay 200 just to get out.

This is what they did:

Gave her scripts for high blood pressure medicine. that cost a hundred bucks

A shot of morphine

And a cup of that good hospital crunchy ice.
 
The Op is misinformed. No employer is being forced to pay for contraception. Insurance companies are being forced to cover the costs of such, which can be quite high.

I don't see anyone bitching that they already cover the cost of ED treatments.
I'm leaving the insurance industry for more stable pastures but I'll tell you this. Insurance is designed to "make one whole" after a catastrophic loss it is protecting against such as a fire, major medical necessity, accident, death.....etc. When mandates are issued to the companies the price goes up, so in a roundabout way the employer is forced to pay for the contraceptives through higher premiums and deductibles. That said I think ED treatment coverage is absolutely STUPID, it's a choice to partake in Viagra and it's competitors and there is no medical necessity for such, in fact people with heart conditions risk other insurance companies such as life insurers having to pay a death claim cause someone had a heart attack from misuse, or if they do happen to live the health insurance resources have to be utilized to treat their self induced heart attack so it can actually serve as a net negative from a health issue standpoing.
 
thats my point but no mention of emergency room visits, coverage on meds and it says "in network" sometimes thats a crock!
HMO or PPO? Big difference, in a PPO you have flexibility when there is no network provider available, in an HMO they will nail you during that situation.
 
Sitting in the ER last night with my X girlfriend she had to pay 200 just to get out.

This is what they did:

Gave her scripts for high blood pressure medicine. that cost a hundred bucks

A shot of morphine

And a cup of that good hospital crunchy ice.

terrible. One time in between jobs without helath insurance i was so sick, acute intestinal infection, that after throwing up for 2 days i lost consciousness after sleeping on the bathroom floor. My daughter called the ambulance, they gave me some basics meds and discharged me with in hours. the next day almost the same thing happened, I called myself this time, they tried to discharge me again and I told them im will not leave, they will have to get security to remove me. Also my family doctor was the head of their board, I let them know and I told them unless my doctor tells me in person or on the phone that its OK to go home nobody will make me leave. They addmitted me :) but it was 1000$ dollars in ambulance fees alone??????? I live 6 mins from the hospital!
 
terrible. One time in between jobs without helath insurance i was so sick, acute intestinal infection, that after throwing up for 2 days i lost consciousness after sleeping on the bathroom floor. My daughter called the ambulance, they gave me some basics meds and discharged me with in hours. the next day almost the same thing happened, I called myself this time, they tried to discharge me again and I told them im will not leave, they will have to get security to remove me. Also my family doctor was the head of their board, I let them know and I told them unless my doctor tells me in person or on the phone that its OK to go home nobody will make me leave. They addmitted me :) but it was 1000$ dollars in ambulance fees alone??????? I live 6 mins from the hospital!


OTOH I am glad the people were there to know how to deal with this. What really bothered me though was that they prescribed the most expensive meds. And I know about beta blockers.
 
OTOH I am glad the people were there to know how to deal with this. What really bothered me though was that they prescribed the most expensive meds. And I know about beta blockers.
Something has always bugged me. Pharmaceutical reps can take doctors out to eat, on golf vacations, and other monetary inducements to push their product legally but if a radio DJ or radio company takes anything besides a cd or promotional materials they can be fined heavily under payola laws. The worst thing that can happen if a DJ pushes crap is you buy a cd that blows, but a medicine pushed can kill or mess you up. Priorities anyone?
 
uhm just on a side not, in your link the "porn" referred to was "emails containing, nudity, jokes or other material inappropriate"

I dont think a person should be fired for emails they receive.

The employer in this case still considered it "porn" and claimed it violated their policies.

I agree that a person should not be fired for emails they receive.
 
The employer in this case still considered it "porn" and claimed it violated their policies.

I agree that a person should not be fired for emails they receive.

never claimed different :shrug:
 
OTOH I am glad the people were there to know how to deal with this. What really bothered me though was that they prescribed the most expensive meds. And I know about beta blockers.


yep
thats why I always laugh at people that say healthcare in fine.

a littl eoff topic and not directed at you but its funny. People may not like the new healthcare plan or ideas but anybody that says it was fine and didnt need fixed is a moron. Sorry there is just no other word for them. Again if you dont like the ideas suggested to fix it thats fine but if you think it wasnt broken you are kidding yourself.
 
yep
thats why I always laugh at people that say healthcare in fine.

a littl eoff topic and not directed at you but its funny. People may not like the new healthcare plan or ideas but anybody that says it was fine and didnt need fixed is a moron. Sorry there is just no other word for them. Again if you dont like the ideas suggested to fix it thats fine but if you think it wasnt broken you are kidding yourself.
The market is good, the overall environment is not. While I think it's heartless to deny people ER visits in a legitimate emergency for inability to pay it comes down on payors, this can be fixed without a major industry overhaul by giving more lattitude for billing based on what can be recovered after treatment. As well the "single payor" model tends to stagnate, the private model tends to improve more quickly. So there are things we do well, and there are some things that need work, but I don't think anyone who is being honest would say heatlhcare is fine.
 
The Op is misinformed. No employer is being forced to pay for contraception. Insurance companies are being forced to cover the costs of such, which can be quite high.

I don't see anyone bitching that they already cover the cost of ED treatments.

On paper yes, in reality, the cost gets shirked to the employers.
 
The Op is misinformed. No employer is being forced to pay for contraception. Insurance companies are being forced to cover the costs of such, which can be quite high.

I don't see anyone bitching that they already cover the cost of ED treatments.

That's the biggest issue I take with politics these days - though I'm sure it's always been this way. People seem to not bitch about things until it becomes a fad. No one bitched about ED treatments being covered before. No one bitched about the debt ceiling being raised until it became an "issue". As long as I had been debating politics, I had never heard anyone go ape**** over public unions until it was so popular to bitch about.

Look, we need to reduce the national debt and get a more balanced budget. I think we can all agree on that. Can we quit with this nonsense bickering so we can focus on real issues? ****.
 
That's the biggest issue I take with politics these days - though I'm sure it's always been this way. People seem to not bitch about things until it becomes a fad. No one bitched about ED treatments being covered before. No one bitched about the debt ceiling being raised until it became an "issue". As long as I had been debating politics, I had never heard anyone go ape**** over public unions until it was so popular to bitch about.

Look, we need to reduce the national debt and get a more balanced budget. I think we can all agree on that. Can we quit with this nonsense bickering so we can focus on real issues? ****.
That was an issue years ago, there have been so many stupid moves in insurance and government in general that the ED one is largely forgotten. However even before I was an agent people were pissed about it, it's just that things have shifted to more important and more current issues, it's not that people don't have a problem with it but rather that it's not on the top of the list right now.
 
No, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard because...

Only idiots pay for porn anyway.
 
That was an issue years ago, there have been so many stupid moves in insurance and government in general that the ED one is largely forgotten. However even before I was an agent people were pissed about it, it's just that things have shifted to more important and more current issues, it's not that people don't have a problem with it but rather that it's not on the top of the list right now.


I think one of my favorites is when some peoples health care went up last year and they blamed it on the new health care LMAO

I dont know what health care they had before but mine as gone up atleast every 3 years for the last 15 years, they act like THIS i the first and only time.

Health insurance companies are damn near criminals in my OPINION, when it comes to health care providers there should be a cap of profit IMO.

I used to have a link about Cleve L. Killingsworth he was/is a CEO for one of the BCBSs and I may mess this up but it will be close:

he gave himself a 26% pay increase and bonus
even though the companies numbers were down
even though they were doing lay offs
even though their income dropped 49%
and then he raised all his costumers rates!

Im not against people making money or capitalism but this is the type of **** that is making us weaker.

WHats even more sad among a lot of CEO types he is PRAISED and RESPECTED! why? because he increased his own bottom line, f the company's, f the customers, his did good so he got a pat on the back from his friends. Pathetic.
 
There were some cases where medicaid paid for condoms (very few). What I found funny is 100% of the males who bought them purchased magnums (not kidding, might be one exception). All of the females purchased lubricated, normal, or those thermal ones.
“The Magnum brand is viewed as a positive lifestyle badge and positive symbol,” Mr. Daniels said. “And people are proud to show they have a Magnum condom — the large size really connotes a sense of ‘above-average prowess,’ let’s call it.”

But as the story's writer, Andrew Adam Newman points out later, the Magnum is only connoting a myth.

For all the connotations, however, it turns out that Magnum is not so large. It is the same length as standard condoms, with the same circumference at its base, Mr. Daniels said. “Some people feel more comfortable with that width, but you don’t have to be an overly endowed man to use a Magnum and enjoy it,” he added.

Read more: The Real Issue With Magnum Condoms | Global Grind

Heh, heh...
 
Employers are being forced to pay for that insurance, which is being forced to cover contraception. The inclusion of a middleman changes nothing whatsoever about the blatant immorality of this mandate.

Immorality? Is reducing the number of abortions immoral in your book too?
 
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