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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%

  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%

  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • Total voters
    85
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jamesrage said:
Judging by the fact the last pic you showed is bb gun and these things that look like you dug up from someone's yard I would you are very scared of guns. Do those bullets still have powder in them?
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yes, they have powder in them.

no, its a pellet gun.

no, I'm not afraid of guns. I'm going skeet shooting in two weeks and rifle shooting a few weeks after.

I've shot three kinds of guns in my lifetime and plan on shooting many more.
 
haymarket said:
Please go back and review my posts. It appears you have confused my position and my posts with someone else.

I did not make such arguments.
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Meh, possibly I confused you for something Thunder said.... it is a long-ass thread.
 
ecofarm said:
If someone drives drunk, on the wrong side of the road, running other vehicles off the road and then slams into a house full of people... have they misused the car? According to the above logic... NO! A car is meant for driving. As long as one is driving it, then it is being used as intended. What about prescription meds? Take the bottle instead of the dose? Why not? Pills are for taking, and as long as they're being taken then they are being used as intended. But what instructions are there for guns? Gun law.

Using something illegally/improperly is misusing it. I'm not sure how someone could get along in life without understanding that.
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You are intentionally and deliberately confusing apples with cinderblocks.

The intended purpose of a gun as invented and created is to fire projectiles in the pursuit of advancing your will, goals or aims over others by force. A person who uses it for a criminal purpose is using that gun just as it was designed. The perpetrator may be committing an illegal act with a firearm - sure. But they are most certainly using it as it was invented and created - to advance their goals, aims or will over others. You may not approve of how they are using it - but they are most certainly using it as it was developed and created.

A car was not invented as an instrument of destruction or as a weapon as you describe.
 
Goshin said:
Meh, possibly I confused you for something Thunder said.... it is a long-ass thread.
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No problem. I can see that happening with others attempting to falsely ascribe to me views I do not have.
 
Hey would any of you guys participate in a "hunting and fishing" thread if I started one? You know, hunting stories, fishing lies, lot's of photos, etc.

No bitching or whining or being dickhead's in general kind of a thread? Sorta like a port in the storm sanctuary thread?

Hell, why am I asking this for? I'll just start one and find out.
 
Thunder said:
sure they would.

if you are holding a hammer, and refuse to put it down, a cop can kill you.
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A hammer is more dangerous than a pellet gun, and a taser would probably be used.

A cop can no more shoot someone with a known pellet gun than they can someone with a gun made of wood.
 
i love going fishing.ive never owned a hunting license before but have poached dear a few times. phone 057.jpg
 

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beerftw said:
looks like an old collection of bullets,you can tell by the darkness of some of them that they have been sitting outside a box for a long time,i almost swear the one to the left is 7.62x54r.


now go ahead thunder and name each caliber from left to right
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...and show us the corresponding firearm you own for each.
 
haymarket said:
The perpetrator may be committing an illegal act with a firearm - sure. But they are most certainly using it as it was invented and created - to advance their goals, aims or will over others. You may not approve of how they are using it - but they are most certainly using it as it was developed and created.
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A car is for driving - doesn't matter how. Pills for taking - doesn't matter how. Etc.

You point is BS. As much BS as claiming that victims are heroes.
 
ecofarm said:
A car is for driving - doesn't matter how. Pills for taking - doesn't matter how. Etc.

You point is BS. As much BS as claiming that victims are heroes.
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It is unfortunate that you do not see the difference between using a gun as weapon as it was designed and intended as using a automobile as such for which it was never designed. Perhaps you are confusing a tank with an automobile?

The very nature of a firearm has as its purpose the firing of a potentially lethal projectile to kill or maim others in order to exert your power and will over them. An automobile is not designed for that purpose even though it can be misused as such. That is the fundamental difference.

I suspect that you do not want to see the difference because it would then be unsettling to your ideological position which you believe because you opt to believe it. The confusion you feel that causes you to override an intellectual process is known as cognitive dissonance.
 
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Go to the Sports forum and hop on my new hunting and fishing thread. That could be fun!
 
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A gun is for shooting people blahblahblah... we got it, we had it, you are not teaching anyone anything. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the obvious, your point is stupid. Shooting people randomly is a misuse of a gun, just as much as driving drunk is a misuse of a car. Using something illegally/improperly is a misuse of it.
 
Thunder said:
well, we can find that out...can't we?

I shook em'. They have powder.

But no, I'm not gonna open them to enable your silly attempts to provoke & annoy.
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MY "silly" attempts to "provoke" and "annoy"?

From the guy who posted a picture of himself holding a pellet gun to prove he's not afraid of guns? Did you think no one would notice?

(And then you didn't even know why someone would call you out for having your finger on the trigger.)

I think it's perfectly reasonable to doubt those rounds are loaded.
 
ecofarm said:
A gun is for shooting people blahblahblah... we got it, we had it, you are not teaching anyone anything. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the obvious, your point is stupid. Shooting people randomly is a misuse of a gun, just as much as driving drunk is a misuse of a car. Using something illegally/improperly is a misuse of it.
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Shooting people intentionally is not. The gun was invented for just that purpose. That is its purpose. It is being used just as invented.
 
haymarket said:
Shooting people intentionally is not. The gun was invented for just that purpose. That is its purpose. It is being used just as invented.
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Using something unlawfully is not proper use, especially if used unlawfully to harm the innocent.


Not splitting hairs, this is pretty fundamental. A knife is made to cut; cutting innocent people with it is misuse.
 
Thunder said:
the United Nations isn't a good source of data for international crime rates?

how's that work?
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Because if you actually ****ing knew a damn thing about the issue you would realize that the U.N. compiles raw data collected without a UNIFORM methodology and no adjustments as does the people using it in Wikipedia. THERE IS NO FURTHER ANALYSIS, in other words the differences in crime reporting sway favorably for some nations over others with the U.S. being one of the more honest. Again IF YOU KNEW THING ONE about this you would have already known your sources were flawed well past unintentional bias deeply into completely full of **** territory.
 
Thunder said:
my grandfather is dead..and he never gave me any bullets. those are from friends & my dad.

I'm going skeet shooting in two weeks, and going to a rifle range a few weeks after that.
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Just remember to point the end with the hole in it away from you.
 
i think we kinda picked on thunder enough for today.

dont wanna push him too far or else this could happen.sniper cat.jpeg
 
Harshaw said:
MY "silly" attempts to "provoke" and "annoy"?

From the guy who posted a picture of himself holding a pellet gun to prove he's not afraid of guns? Did you think no one would notice?....
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a pellet gun, isn't a gun?

what do you call it?
 
LaMidRighter said:
Because if you actually ****ing knew a damn thing about the issue you would realize that the U.N. compiles raw data collected without a UNIFORM methodology and no adjustments as does the people using it in Wikipedia. THERE IS NO FURTHER ANALYSIS, in other words the differences in crime reporting sway favorably for some nations over others with the U.S. being one of the more honest.....
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fine then. post a link to a table showing international crime rates.
 
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