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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%

  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%

  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • Total voters
    85
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Medusa said:
but how can you know that one having gun will use that right just for self protection?
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You don't. That's why you better hurry and get yourself a gun. Starting to make sense yet?
 
haymarket said:
No it is not disconnected from reality. The purpose of a gun is to fire a projectile. One could also say the purpose is to use the gun to get what you want short of actual firing of the projectile as a threat to do so.

The very purpose of a gun is to shoot at others. It was invented for that purpose. That is its intended usage. You need not shy away from that reality. It is what it is.
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If someone drives drunk, on the wrong side of the road, running other vehicles off the road and then slams into a house full of people... have they misused the car? According to the above logic... NO! A car is meant for driving. As long as one is driving it, then it is being used as intended. What about prescription meds? Take the bottle instead of the dose? Why not? Pills are for taking, and as long as they're being taken then they are being used as intended. But what instructions are there for guns? Gun law.

Using something illegally/improperly is misusing it. I'm not sure how someone could get along in life without understanding that.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
Under the principles upon which this nation was founded, we don't get to abridge someone's rights because we think he might commit a crime. What you call “flexible laws” that “may encourage the ones who tend to commit a crime to do it easily”, we call “freedom”. The vast majority of us do not ever, in our entire lifetimes, commit serious crimes. Those few who do, don't do so because the laws are too “flexible”. To make us less free does nothing to protect those of us who are not criminally-inclined from those who are, and even if it did, it's not consistent with the values on which this nation was founded. As one of the great men who founded this nation wrote, “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
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Awesome post dude. :applaud
 
Medusa said:
lets start a campaign to have everybody get a gun.
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In the US, one has the freedom to choose NOT to have a gun as well. But if you want to start a campaign, have at it. I won't get in the way. I wish everybody had a gun. That way the criminal element could be taken out of the gene pool just that much quicker. That's why I probably wouldn't be sucessful politician. LOL!

Here is someone who also thinks along the lines of more gun restrictions.

He says make all guns illegal. And HE'S a professional. Watch and learn.

 
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Captain America said:
In the US, one has the freedom to choose NOT to have a gun as well. But if you want to start a campaign, have at it. I won't gert in the way. I wish everybody had a gun. That way the criminal element would be taken out of the gene pool quicker. That's why I probably wouldn't be sucessful politician. LOL!
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if eveybody has a gun,wont there be any crime ? how long will it take to take this element out of the gene pool?
 
Medusa said:
if eveybody has a gun,wont there be any crime ? how long will it take to take this element out of the gene pool?
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quicker than those who recieve the darwin award.:lamo
 
beerftw said:
quicker than those who recieve the darwin award.:lamo
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What he said.

Imagine yourself being an armed robber walking into a McDonald's pulling a gun on the teenage girl at the cash register. You turn around and see a half dozen guns pointing at you. Did you watch the film?
 
Captain America said:
In the US, one has the freedom to choose NOT to have a gun as well. But if you want to start a campaign, have at it. I won't get in the way. I wish everybody had a gun. That way the criminal element could be taken out of the gene pool just that much quicker. That's why I probably wouldn't be sucessful politician. LOL!

Here is someone who also thinks along the lines of more gun restrictions.

He says make all guns illegal. And HE'S a professional. Watch and learn....
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most guns that end up in the hands of criminals, were originally bought legally.

if we limited all handgun sales in every state, to one per month per person, criminals would have a much harder time getting guns.
 
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Thunder said:
most guns that end up in the hands of criminals, were originally bought legally.
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No doubt. But the operative words here are, "guns that end up in the hands of criminals." We both agree that guns, regardless of how they were initially purchased, do end up in the hands of criminals. Is it your suggestion that only criminals should have these weapons?
 
Captain America said:
What he said.

Imagine yourself being an armed robber walking into a McDonald's pulling a gun on the teenage girl at the cash register. You turn around and see a half dozen guns pointing at you. Did you watch the film?
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this is not an answer to my question,moreover you disprove your claim
 
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Thunder said:
most guns that end up in the hands of criminals, were originally bought legally.

if we limited all handgun sales in every state, to one per month per person, criminals would have a much harder time getting guns.
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how do you know they were purchased legally?almost every study on the matter guesses those numbers because they have no way of tracking them.

and you still dont adress guns being smuggled from other countries,oh we lemme think we banned marijuana no one can get it now,but wait more people smoke pot now then when it was legal decades ago:shock:
 
Medusa said:
this is not an answer to my question,moreover you disprove your claim
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HUH?

I take it English is not your first language?

1. What is my "claim?"

2. What disproves whatever my "claim" is?

Please, at least make an effort to better communicate. I'm a nice guy who enjoys talking to you.
 
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Thunder said:
most guns that end up in the hands of criminals, were originally bought legally.

if we limited all handgun sales in every state, to one per month per person, criminals would have a much harder time getting guns.
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You should pass a law limiting criminals to buying only 1 hot gun off the street per month.
 
Medusa said:
if eveybody has a gun,wont there be any crime ? how long will it take to take this element out of the gene pool?
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Nothing will ever eliminate all crime.


However, if "criminal", as a job choice, tended to result in a very short career that ended in an early grave due to citizen self-protection via firearms.... "criminal" would probably be a much less popular choice of employment! :)


This is why I tend to be distinctly unsympathetic to thieves who get shot in the act.... they shouldn't have been thievin'. One less thief is fine with me.... a million less thieves would be even better.
 
Jerry said:
You should pass a law limiting criminals to buying only 1 hot gun off the street per month.
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:2rofll:

I can tell right now it's gonna be a fun day here at DP.
 
Thunder's assertion that crime is down in New York because of the strict gun laws just got shot in the ass.

There is a fascinating series of articles in the Village Voice that drops the bomb on NYC crime stats, especially violent felonies. Citizens of New York, tourists in New York have been "crimed" by police administration. NYC isn't as safe as you thought. Keep on drinking that Safe and Secure Kool-Aid. The crime stats in NY argument for gun control is null and void.

NYC Police Tapes - Village Voice
 
Thunder said:
that's adorable.

:lamo
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awww poor thunder is just a little scurred of guns,but i found one thats less intimidating for him


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Thunder's assertion that crime is down in New York because of the strict gun laws just got shot in the ass.

There is a fascinating series of articles in the Village Voice that drops the bomb on NYC crime stats, especially violent felonies. Citizens of New York, tourists in New York have been "crimed" by police administration. NYC isn't as safe as you thought. Keep on drinking that Safe and Secure Kool-Aid. The crime stats in NY argument for gun control is null and void.

NYC Police Tapes - Village Voice
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Not trying to defend NYC but that goes on in just about every major metropolis I am told (by some very credible people.) Job reviews, promotions and management decicions are often made on such stats. They can also be manipulated in the other direction if the politicians do not give the department the monetary rewards they desire, thus possibly causing the politician to stand in the unemployment line. They have them by the shorthairs.

The system is fundamentally flawed. Most cops are good cops and they don't like it anymore than you or I do. But they gotta eat and feed their family too.
 
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