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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%
  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%
  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%
  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%
  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%
  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%

  • Total voters
    85
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You might as well ask "if there were no armies in the world, NOT ONE, how many wars would we have?"


This is dreamland and does not, will not, can not ever exist.

There's no point in talking about it. We might as well talk about winged Unicorns and defying gravity by putting mint leaves on your shoes.

and its idiotic to even bring it up in the context of his claim that the second amendment is what killed those children given places-like mexico-have no constitutional rights to own weapons yet the place is awash with illegal guns and gun deaths
 
In general maybe, and certainly the quickest, but in the hunting group I know it's the quiet, thoughtful guy that usually bags the biggest deer.

The confidence of knowing.
 
I have 23 guns, my favorite one is a little 22 pistol I took from some drunk that tried to mug me and my wife in downtown Spokane late one night. She said we should call the cops, I said no way, this is a nice little pistol, I wanna keep it.
 
I have 23 guns, my favorite one is a little 22 pistol I took from some drunk that tried to mug me and my wife in downtown Spokane late one night. She said we should call the cops, I said no way, this is a nice little pistol, I wanna keep it.
But but but, according to what we've been hearing here the gun was supposed to magically give the drunk a 100% chance of making you and your wife handing over your property, and upon refusal immediate death was supposed to follow. Are you trying to tell me he didn't have the advantage people said he had. {sarcasm mode off}
 
I have 23 guns, my favorite one is a little 22 pistol I took from some drunk that tried to mug me and my wife in downtown Spokane late one night. She said we should call the cops, I said no way, this is a nice little pistol, I wanna keep it.

LOL just hope there isn't 4 bodies on it.

I had some drugged out loser I knew growing up pull a switchblade on me when I caught him throwing rocks through our window while my parents were out of town. I was armed with a couple rattan sticks. He pulled out this knife and I hit him like 5 times in a second and he dropped the knife. I kicked it down a storm sewer. My brother said DAMN I always wanted a switchblade. I told him he didn't know who that ass might have cut with that blade and it looked crappy anyway. I didn't call the cops though. I figured breaking both his wrists and a jaw was probably good enough and with the knife gone (I didn't know if it could be retrieved) it was better off that way
 
No attacks, just telling the truth

people who commit rape and murder don't obey laws

so we who don't commit crime need to be well armed to deal with criminals

They do this to people with guns as well. Always have. Always will. In the right hands a gun MAY help. In the wrong hands, it LIKELY will hurt. Either way, anyone can be had.
 
They do this to people with guns as well. Always have. Always will. In the right hands a gun MAY help. In the wrong hands, it LIKELY will hurt. Either way, anyone can be had.

the problem is gun control laws take guns out of the RIGHT hands without taking them out of the WRONG ones
 
the problem is gun control laws take guns out of the RIGHT hands without taking them out of the WRONG ones

i think the laws are just fine. They just need to be enforced with extreme penalties.
 
i think the laws are just fine. They just need to be enforced with extreme penalties.


I am talking about idiocy like making people wait to buy a gun or preventing honest people from buying semi autos or more than one gun a month etc
 
They do this to people with guns as well. Always have. Always will. In the right hands a gun MAY help. In the wrong hands, it LIKELY will hurt. Either way, anyone can be had.

And yet that the "likely" hurt part of the equation is < right hands part. There are significantly more people that have proven themselves to be the right hands. The criminal element is small. The idiot element is smaller still. Laws are not going to stop criminals from being criminals, or idiots from being idiots. More laws make more criminals. And idiots...well protecting them only makes more idiots.
 
no weapon is perfect for all circumstances. if you are barricaded behind hard cover, and you control access to your environment and that access point is is less than 35 yards away a pump 12 Shotgun is a good choice

Not so good in close quarters or if your adversary can engage you from over 75 yards away and even if you have slugs, you are at a severe disadvantage past 150 yards

Maybe YOU would be okay at 150 yds but I wouldn't want a shotgun, even 08 buckshot scatter, for anything over 60 yds. You would have to be Dead-Eye Dick to hit at 150 yds with a slug. But, then again, you are Dead-Eye Dick, so nevermind. LOL!
 
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And yet that the "likely" hurt part of the equation is < right hands part. There are significantly more people that have proven themselves to be the right hands. The criminal element is small. The idiot element is smaller still. Laws are not going to stop criminals from being criminals, or idiots from being idiots. More laws make more criminals. And idiots...well protecting them only makes more idiots.


Its obvious-if you obey even stupid gun laws, you aren't robbing banks, raping children, selling crank or knocking off rival gangbangers

if you don't mind doing a nickel at the state pen for selling crack or doing 360 months in USP Florence for armed bankrobbery and assault with a automatic weapon you aren't going to worry about some gun law
 
i think the laws are just fine. They just need to be enforced with extreme penalties.
Some laws make sense, some don't. We need to keep the ones that do, think about anything we missed that might be intelligent and legitimate policy, and move forward from there. Most gun rights advocates are fine with CCW laws and I am as well, it may not do much to curb the illegal concealment but non CCW carriers can be taken off the streets for a while and most CCW pulls from conceal are honest and legit. I don't mind gun transfer laws if a third party sale like Estate auction or Bin auction is involved, things like that. But capacity bans, the way we regulate rate of fire, etc. are all useless and need to go.
 
Maybe YOU would be okay at 150 yds but I wouldn't want a shotgun, even 08 buckshot, for anything over 60 yds. You would have to be Dead-Eye Dick to hit at 150 yds with a slug. But, then again, you are Dead-Eye Dick, so nevermind. LOL!

past forty yards I want an M4 with a holosite

past 200 I want a full size AR with a 3X-14 Kahles scope

600-a MIAI or LAR in 762Nato with a rangefinding scope
 
past forty yards I want an M4 with a holosite

past 200 I want a full size AR with a 3X-14 Kahles scope

600-a MIAI or LAR in 762Nato with a rangefinding scope

I know very little about military style weaponry. Well, except for the C.I.W.S. but that's another story.

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I shoot a Remington Woodsmaster 30.30 with a Redfield 3X9 variable scope. That's all I got for distance really. It works well for whitetail.

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Yea. So what is the point of making laws that criminals are supposed to obey?

so we shouldn't pass any laws since criminals ain't gonna follow them?

:lamo

"alright guys, its now legal to commit murder, since the criminals don't seem to read the state penal code".
 
I'd love to see a gun-law stating: "This law only applies to criminals. If you ain't no criminal, you don't have to abide by it".

;)

most of the gun laws that you once supported only applied to honest people. Like waiting periods or permits

criminals cannot own any gun legally and thus waiting periods and permits have no application to them
 
You might think differently if you lived in DC or Chicago.

Just a note. In places like Chicago and DC is where the call for stricted gun control is the loudest. Urban folks want gun control much more tha rural people.
 
I know very little about military style weaponry. Well, except for the C.I.W.S. but that's another story.

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I shoot a Remington Woodsmaster 30.30 with a Redfield 3X9 variable scope. That's all I got for distance really. It works well for whitetail.

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the greatest deerhunter in america (according to many) was a guy named larry or lanny benoit (there were two its been years) and they loved those remington rifles--I think they liked the pump jobs in 30-06 which is a bit stouter cartridge than the 30-30 and has a bit more range
 
most of the gun laws that you once supported only applied to honest people. Like waiting periods or permits

criminals cannot own any gun legally and thus waiting periods and permits have no application to them

yes, criminals can't buy guns. that's why all gun-dealers should have a sign stating this. that way, we can prevent criminals from buying guns.

;)
 
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