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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%

  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%

  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • Total voters
    85
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TurtleDude said:
I also spent a summer as a resident athlete at the USOTC as part of an NRA development team shooting 200-500 shots a day. you get pretty good doing that stuff
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Wow. Hat's off to you bro.
You da man!

My father got me into shooting at an early age. He was a trick shooter and did exhibitions just about every weekend I can remember as a child. I never got into it as deep as you but we did shoot enough to where we loaded our on shells. I was loading shot gun shells before I had hair on my nutsack. Looking back, I'm not so sure that was a good idea. i could have blown the house up. But that's the way we were raised back then, you know? We had a gun rack in every room.

My pops and uncles were all cops. My brothers are all cops. Hell, my mom was a dispatcher. I am in the industry myself, however, I do not wear a uniform and I really don't want to talk about what I do a lot. I leave that at work.

I might be sideways with you on some political issues but I would be honored to have a drink with you or swap lies at deer camp someday. You're alright bro.
 
I never kept track of how many shotgun shells and pistol cartridges I loaded but I used to buy bullets in 10,000 piece lots. Do you know what a 8 pound can of green dot or Winchester 231 looks like? In four years I filled two of those cans with spent large pistol primers
 
TurtleDude said:
I never kept track of how many shotgun shells and pistol cartridges I loaded but I used to buy bullets in 10,000 piece lots. Do you know what a 8 pound can of green dot or Winchester 231 looks like? In four years I filled two of those cans with spent large pistol primers
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No ****? Damn dude.

I'm not worthy.
 
Captain America said:
100 straight!!???!! Holy ****!! My best run was 49 out of 50. I missed the 50th. But it was not on an official range. Just some home boys in our hunting club having an event. I was using a Browning over and under 12 ga. First time I shot the gun. I hardly even remember what it looked like. But that day, I just couldn't miss. Don't you just LOVE those days?
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The last time my Dad and I ever went shooting together was like that. I couldn't miss... busted clay after clay from different angles, shot two at a time and still couldn't miss. Never had a day that good before or since. I don't remember how many it was, we were at it for several hours.

My Dad, never a man 'unstinting in praise', even gave me some unequivocal kudos for good shooting. I think he knew his health was going and that this might be our last 'outing', and he was glad it was a good one. He passed away a few years later after considerable ill-health, but I will always have that last memory of a perfect day spent shooting with the man who taught me to shoot... "Dead-eye D." as his hunting buddies called him, the man who never missed a bird.
 
TurtleDude said:
silencers ought to be as easy to buy as bayonets or bullets
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Yo TD. Does a silencer have any affect on the shot. What I mean is, if you are locked in and you shoot bullseye, then put on the silencer, would the silenced round go bullseye too. Does it have any affect on the shot? Am I making sense?

I know absolutely nothing about silencers. School me.
 
Captain America said:
No ****? Damn dude.

I'm not worthy.
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sure you are, that's what is great about shooting sports-everyone can have fun no matter what.

Now if you don't know how to ski you are going to get messed up skiing with say Bode Miller.

If you don't know how to play tennis its not much fun having Andy Roddick hit 150MPH serves at you

and if you don't do boxing you really don't want to spar with some middleweight contender

but you can go on a skeet field with Todd Bender (the guy who beat me for the collegiate title one year in a shootoff) or Vince Hancock (Olympic champion in 08) and shoot with them-they might run 100 targets and you only hit 18 out of 25 but you can still have a good time
 
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Goshin said:
The last time my Dad and I ever went shooting together was like that. I couldn't miss... busted clay after clay from different angles, shot two at a time and still couldn't miss. Never had a day that good before or since. I don't remember how many it was, we were at it for several hours.

My Dad, never a man 'unstinting in praise', even gave me some unequivocal kudos for good shooting. I think he knew his health was going and that this might be our last 'outing', and he was glad it was a good one. He passed away a few years later after considerable ill-health, but I will always have that last memory of a perfect day spent shooting with the man who taught me to shoot... "Dead-eye D." as his hunting buddies called him, the man who never missed a bird.
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Sorry for your loss man. He sounds like an awesome guy. But you got some helluva memories, right?

And that's is EXACTLY what I was talking about. It was one of those days. Never happened before and hasn't happened since.

I didn't excel like TD did but I could hold my own amongst my peers. Still, today, my bros I hunt with freak out at some of the shots I make. So do I. But in the arena of trained, consistant shooters, I would leave my gun in the trunk. There are some AMAZING marksmen out there.
 
Captain America said:
Yo TD. Does a silencer have any affect on the shot. What I mean is, if you are locked in and you shoot bullseye, then put on the silencer, would the silenced round go bullseye too. Does it have any affect on the shot? Am I making sense?

I know absolutely nothing about silencers. School me.
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low velocity pistols no-some high vel rifles it can have some effect but I have no real expertise in silenced sniper weapons
 
TurtleDude said:
low velocity pistols no-some high vel rifles it can have some effect but I have no real expertise in silenced sniper weapons
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A few years back I almost signed up for sniper training with my drummer. But I would of had to use my vacation days and I had already bought plane tickets for my vacation elsewhere and couldn't cancel it. He went without me. Damn drummers.
 
Heres what I think about guns.


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TurtleDude said:
If someone has no objections to that sort of ban they are anti gun without any doubt

They have stated that they think it is permissible for the government to prohibit honest people owning the same weapons that our tax dollars are used to supply to CIVILIAN police officers who have no greater rights to use such weapons than we do


furthermore you prove you buy into the idiocy that stuff like a bayonet lug or a pistol grip makes a weapon less suitable for "private ownership" which of course proves you have no clue about how weapons work
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You won't mind if rational people don't make the leaps you do here.

BTW, I said nothing about a baynet lug or a pistol grip. Sorry, but just making one leap after another.
 
Boo Radley said:
You won't mind if rational people don't make the leaps you do here.

BTW, I said nothing about a baynet lug or a pistol grip. Sorry, but just making one leap after another.
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so tell me what is an "assault weapon" to you
 
Captain America said:
A few years back I almost signed up for sniper training with my drummer. But I would of had to use my vacation days and I had already bought plane tickets for my vacation elsewhere and couldn't cancel it. He went without me. Damn drummers.
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There is serious mental math in sniper training, you have to know the wind, resistance of the bullet to it, distance, and be able to place a shot within inches. Most hunters will never use anything but the crosspoint on the scope but the long distance shots reguire the hashmarks and calculation. Some people don't respect what those guys do but it is incredibly difficult.
 
TurtleDude said:
so tell me what is an "assault weapon" to you
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I guess Boo is trying to deal with the fact that stuff like pistol grips are the idiotic defining reason for something being an "assault weapon"
 
TurtleDude said:
so tell me what is an "assault weapon" to you
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The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) (or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act) was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons". There was no legal definition of "assault weapons" in the U.S. prior to the law's enactment. The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment.

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Assault weapon refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that had been developed from earlier fully automatic firearms into semi-automatic civilian-legal versions.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
LOL

pistol grips, bayonet lugs, folding stocks were the items that made something an assault weapon

military history had no relevance

and a semi automatic is no more deadly with those features


it was an idiotic law and one of its biggest supporters admitted its only real purpose was to desensitize people to more draconian gun bans in the future

olympic target weapons were banned by this idiocy

NRA-ILA : Clinton Gun Ban


"It might be 50 years before the United States gets to where Britain is today. Passing a law like the assault weapon ban is a symbolic--purely symbolic--move in that direction. Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation."
--Charles Krauthammer, Washington Post, April 5, 1996
 
TurtleDude said:
LOL

pistol grips, bayonet lugs, folding stocks were the items that made something an assault weapon

military history had no relevance

and a semi automatic is no more deadly with those features


it was an idiotic law and one of its biggest supporters admitted its only real purpose was to desensitize people to more draconian gun bans in the future

olympic target weapons were banned by this idiocy

NRA-ILA : Clinton Gun Ban


"It might be 50 years before the United States gets to where Britain is today. Passing a law like the assault weapon ban is a symbolic--purely symbolic--move in that direction. Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation."
--Charles Krauthammer, Washington Post, April 5, 1996
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LOL, and you buy the scare tactics used by the likes of Krauthammer.

No TD, it is the nature of the weapons, being either automatic or semiautomatic that concerns me. Otherwise, I don't care enough to look into it. Afterall, a weapon is only a tool. And a tool that will never be completely banned here, largely because of the mythology we've attached to our weapons. ;)
 
Boo Radley said:
LOL, and you buy the scare tactics used by the likes of Krauthammer.

No TD, it is the nature of the weapons, being either automatic or semiautomatic that concerns me. Otherwise, I don't care enough to look into it. Afterall, a weapon is only a tool. And a tool that will never be completely banned here, largely because of the mythology we've attached to our weapons. ;)
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when you use automatic to describe the banned weapons you further demonstrate you are clueless on this subject

Krauthhammer supported the gun ban for the reasons I mentioned

you thus are wrong twice in one post

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TurtleDude said:
when you use automatic to describe the banned weapons you further demonstrate you are clueless on this subject

Krauthhammer supported the gun ban for the reasons I mentioned

you thus are wrong twice in one post

later
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YOu are still missing the point of our debate. I've made no active call to ban anything. I have honestly state I have no objection, and I don't. And you are misreading what I said above as well, or more correctly, merely picking out the part you want to focus on and not the intend of the entire message.
 
Boo Radley said:
No TD, it is the nature of the weapons, being either automatic or semiautomatic that concerns me.
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Semiautomatic weapons concern you? What would you prefer, muskets?
 
LaMidRighter said:
There is serious mental math in sniper training, you have to know the wind, resistance of the bullet to it, distance, and be able to place a shot within inches. Most hunters will never use anything but the crosspoint on the scope but the long distance shots reguire the hashmarks and calculation. Some people don't respect what those guys do but it is incredibly difficult.
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When the sniper is on your side you love them, when he's on the other guys side you hate them. They are effective at killing and cause your enemy alot of psychological stress. Theres nothing scarier than knowing a sniper is in the vicinity.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
When the sniper is on your side you love them, when he's on the other guys side you hate them. They are effective at killing and cause your enemy alot of psychological stress. Theres nothing scarier than knowing a sniper is in the vicinity.
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Godzilla would be pretty scary.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
When the sniper is on your side you love them, when he's on the other guys side you hate them. They are effective at killing and cause your enemy alot of psychological stress. Theres nothing scarier than knowing a sniper is in the vicinity.
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Very true statement.
Nov '06 Baghdad. I was on a street corner handing out soccer balls to kids when my driver took a single shot to the forehead. Every other mission after that had a whole new feeling.
 
Chiefgator said:
Very true statement.
Nov '06 Baghdad. I was on a street corner handing out soccer balls to kids when my driver took a single shot to the forehead. Every other mission after that had a whole new feeling.
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Sorry to hear that about your driver. You guys have my utmost respect and give me hope for the future of this country. Some of the punks I read in here make me wonder wtf but knowing theres alot of young men like you out there bucks up my spirits.
 
Boo Radley said:
YOu are still missing the point of our debate. I've made no active call to ban anything. I have honestly state I have no objection, and I don't. And you are misreading what I said above as well, or more correctly, merely picking out the part you want to focus on and not the intend of the entire message.
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Oh I know exactly your position. Your posts indicate that you consider gun owners to be paranoid, and a bit beneath your fine sensibilities and you use gun threads to heap your disdain on such people.
 
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