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Guns

What do you think gun control should be like?

  • Let everyone have a gun

    Votes: 19 22.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase and carry

    Votes: 25 29.4%

  • Quick background check to purchase, but more difficult to carry

    Votes: 11 12.9%

  • Background check, waiting period for purchase and carrying.

    Votes: 17 20.0%

  • Background check, waiting period, no carrying

    Votes: 5 5.9%

  • No guns at all

    Votes: 8 9.4%
  • Total voters
    85
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samsmart said:
1) A rapist can be shot just as dead with a rifle or a shotgun as with a handgun.

2) I'm pretty sure a woman carrying a rifle or a shotgun out in the open is much more of a deterrent than a woman who weas a handgun on the hip, especially if it is concealed.

3) If there are that many rapes occurring in an area then the people can use referendum to change the law so they can carry handguns.
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these sort of silly arguments are typical from those hateful or ambivalent towards gun rights.
 
earthworm said:
What a bunch of nuts we have here...
"let everyone have a gun...implied no regulation".....33% !!
Your so-called freedoms and liberties are more important than the welfare of society...
And imagine if madmen such as I were to be a gun-owner.....freedoms and liberties....down the drain !
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Only the clueless and silly think society is harmed by letting honest people freely acquire weapons
 
Thunder said:
honestly TD, why do you have to bring the discussion to this level?
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Mirror, mirror, on the wall... who is this righty I see in my hall??


:lamo
 
TurtleDude said:
Only the clueless and silly think society is harmed by letting honest people freely acquire weapons
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yes, honest folks with no criminal history, should be allowed to own firearms. handguns? I'm not sure...but certainly shotguns & rifles.
 
Pot to kettle, thine arse is most exceedingly sooty and black.... over....
 
OhIsee.Then said:
Again. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Where is the well regulated Militia? A militia is like a 'light' army reserves, i.e. mostly civilian. And if you don't follows the rules of the militia you are kicked out. This was the intention of the 2nd, regardless of those that have reduced it to: "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. The "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State," is meaningless as a separated phrase.
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some pretty pathetic scholarship there.
 
Thunder said:
honestly TD, why do you have to bring the discussion to this level?
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I am serious-people who want to rape our rights need to be shot

different situations require different weapons
 
TurtleDude said:
I am serious-people who want to rape our rights need to be shot

different situations require different weapons
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justifying deadly violence against politicians you disagree with, is not cool.

one could easily take such statements, and use them to justify going out today, and shooting someone who voted for some gun regulation passed over the last 5 years.
 
hazlnut said:
I hate when the right answer is not there.

It's a state issue.

But when Guns cross state lines, it's a federal issue.

Waiting period. Background checks.

Carry laws should be stricter. But that is a local issue.
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Bull****, it should be no issue at all. Have you ever read the 2nd Amendment, it applies to the Fed more than anyone. In my view, if I cross a state line with my Glock, it's none of their ****ing business.
 
Thunder said:
and how exactly am I being a hypocrite?

spell it out.
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Let's just say that many of your arguments do not exaclty raise the bar of intellectual discourse.
 
X Factor said:
Let's just say that many of your arguments do not exaclty raise the bar of intellectual discourse.
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what does that have to with me being a hypocrite or not? do you have any evidence of me being a hypocrite in this thread or not?

..or are you merely trying to provoke.
 
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Goshin said:
Well, the Kel-tec and the Smith and Wesson M&P are both featherweights compared to a Colt Gold Cup 45 in the old all-steel style. :)

My personal suggestion.... if your female detective is a serious shooter, someone who would say "I've needed one several times before and I KNOW I'll need one again" then give her the compact M&P 9mm. If she carries a gun more for "just in case" but isn't into pro-level shooting, then the Kel-tec 9mm is fine.
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I guess this is going to require some real research even on her gun.
 
American said:
Bull****, it should be no issue at all. Have you ever read the 2nd Amendment, it applies to the Fed more than anyone. In my view, if I cross a state line with my Glock, it's none of their ****ing business.
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it should be the business of the state you cross into. but that's for another thread.
 
Thunder said:
justifying deadly violence against politicians you disagree with, is not cool.

one could easily take such statements, and use them to justify going out today, and shooting someone who voted for some gun regulation passed over the last 5 years.
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the best thing to keep politicians in line is them knowing if they rape the rights of the righteous, an honest patriot might kill them
 
Goshin said:
Well, the Kel-tec and the Smith and Wesson M&P are both featherweights compared to a Colt Gold Cup 45 in the old all-steel style. :)

My personal suggestion.... if your female detective is a serious shooter, someone who would say "I've needed one several times before and I KNOW I'll need one again" then give her the compact M&P 9mm. If she carries a gun more for "just in case" but isn't into pro-level shooting, then the Kel-tec 9mm is fine.
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excellent advice. I have dozens of guns-from stuff like the uber expensive HK P-30 and some really nice Les Baer and RRA custom 1911s and I carry a MP compact more than anything else.

ITs the best allround semi auto on the market in terms of price, reliability, shooting characteristics,
 
Thunder said:
what does that have to with me being a hypocrite or not? do you have any evidence of me being a hypocrite in this thread or not?

..or are you merely trying to provoke.
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Is it hard to keep your glass house smudge and fingerprint free?
 
TurtleDude said:
the best thing to keep politicians in line is them knowing if they rape the rights of the righteous, an honest patriot might kill them
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I'm sure that's what some assassin will tell the judge, after he murders a politician he feels has wronged him somehow. "I'm just fightin' fur liberty, yer honor".

maybe Jared Laughner can use that during his trial. I bet Tim McVeigh did, as did Mumia Abu-Jamal.
 
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Goshin said:
PM me with anything you need to know.
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Or me-name it I most likely I have owned it, or shot it extensively

These include

Walther PPK PP, PPKS

SIg Sauer P220, P226, P 228, P229, P239, P238

Every variation of the Beretta 92 from the Uber rare Billenium to the Brigadier, 84, 85

Glock 17, 19, 21, 22, 23, 26, 17L, 34

HK USP, P-30, 2000

Browning HP,

Star 30

SW Gen I, 2, 3 and three 59 style, MP in 45, 40, 9 MP compact 9, most of the revolvers
J frame, K frame L frame N frame from 22-44 Mag

SA XD 9 and 40

dozens of different 1911 style guns-Kimbers, Wilson Les Baer, Craig Custom, Colt, Randall (that's one you don't see much these days) Rock River (another rare one), Sig, Remington

Russian Makarov

Egyptian Helwan (Copy of the old 1951 Beretta Brigadier)

French MAS

Most of the various low circulation Italian Jobs like the Bernadelli

Ruger P9 P85 etc

that's without looking at my notes.
 
Thunder said:
I'm sure that's what some assassin will tell the judge, after he murders a politician he feels has wronged him somehow. "I'm just fightin' for liberty, you're honor".

maybe Jared Laughner can use that during his trial. I bet Tim McVeigh did.
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If patriots and other honest citizens are willing to do that, I doubt we are still dealing with established courts of law

its the SHTF scenario

But Hughey Long is a good lesson for statist thugs
 
TurtleDude said:
If patriots and other honest citizens are willing to do that, I doubt we are still dealing with established courts of law

its the SHTF scenario

But Hughey Long is a good lesson for statist thugs
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Tim McVeigh, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Jared Laughner, The Weathermen, The Black Panthers, FALN, all thought they were fighting injustice....by killing American law enforcement & politicians. Heroes of yours?
 
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