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Which Group(s) Members Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause? (READ OP FIRST)

Which Group(s) MEMBERS Most Willing to Kill/Die for their Cause?

  • COMMUNISTS

    Votes: 14 41.2%
  • GREENIES

    Votes: 10 29.4%
  • SOCIALISTS

    Votes: 9 26.5%
  • ANARCHISTS

    Votes: 22 64.7%
  • MODERATES

    Votes: 4 11.8%
  • LIBERTARIANS

    Votes: 9 26.5%
  • CONSERVATIVES

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES

    Votes: 9 26.5%
  • AUTHORITARIANS

    Votes: 19 55.9%

  • Total voters
    34

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We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.
 
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We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.

If I had to pick one (and I'm desperate to do so, btw), I'd say anarchists. That group, in my opinion, attracts people who are on the fringes of society and are a little nutty (no, probably a lot nutty) anyway.
 
We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.

I chose Greenies because they would die for their cause.
I chose Libertarians because they seem determined in their beliefs. I think they'd kill.
I chose Anarchists because they believe an occasional killing/assassination is the only thing they can do that will work. They may be right. It is a strong message.

This is the edit. I think Conservatives, Social Conservatives and Ultra Conservatives would hire killers. Moderates can't make up their minds to kill or die. Communists got a bad rap from the 1950's, and work within the system.
 
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Authoritarians are not 'ultra conservatives' if conservative includes free-market economics. They're pretty much the same thing as communists.
 
We talk about groups being fanatical in their devotion to the Philosophies they claim to espouse. To that end, I'm interested to see which Group(s) MEMBERS you think are or would be most likely to either TAKE A LIFE and/or GIVE UP THEIR LIVES for their cause? Not which Group(s) MEMBERS talk the best game; but which ones you believe would be willing to actually WALK the TALK.

COMMUNISTS: Actual Marxist/Leninists.
GREENIES: Ultra-Environmentalists
SOCIALISTS: Mainstream Socialists
ANARCHISTS: The Actual Anti-Society/Government Folks
MODERATES: People Sitting on the Fence
LIBERTARIANS: The Pro-Freedom & Liberty Crowd
CONSERVATIVES: Mainstream Conservatives
SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES: The Right-Wingers
AUTHORITARIANS: The ULTRA-Conservatives

Please Select UP TO THREE OPTIONS.

I picked all of the above.Each of these groups most likely have a couple of breaking point issues that the government could step on to cause any of these groups to violently rebel.
 
Greenies don't have the testicular fortitude to take any action outside of recycling and self righteousness, Mainstream Conservatives are all lip service generally no action, and Moderates are too complacent. All other groups have shown the capacity to kill/die for their cause in the past.
 
Authoritarians are not 'ultra conservatives' if conservative includes free-market economics. They're pretty much the same thing as communists.
I'd say that free market economics would fall under the libertarian platform.
 
I picked all of the above.Each of these groups most likely have a couple of breaking point issues that the government could step on to cause any of these groups to violently rebel.

James has it right on the money. Being willing to spill blood for a cause is less about the cause and more about the person. There are no doubt people among each of those groups who would kill or die for what they believed in if the situation warranted it. Just like there are members of each of those groups who probably wouldn't do it under any circumstances.
 
Greenies don't have the testicular fortitude to take any action outside of recycling and self righteousness....

Tell that to ELF and ALF.
 
James has it right on the money. Being willing to spill blood for a cause is less about the cause and more about the person. There are no doubt people among each of those groups who would kill or die for what they believed in if the situation warranted it. Just like there are members of each of those groups who probably wouldn't do it under any circumstances.

True. However I would suggest that there are several of those groups where the average member is much more likely to be willing to engage in violent behavior.
 
Where are Muslims on the list?
 
Where are Muslims on the list?

Muslim is a Religion, not a philosophical ideology. I would suggest they fall under Social Conservative for the most part.
 
Muslim is a Religion, not a philosophical ideology. I would suggest they fall under Social Conservative for the most part.

I would suggest they are both.
 
It might be argued that the most correct answer is to say that moderates are LEAST likely to die/kill for their cause. Whatever the category, they're moderate. Once moderates are taken out of any category, you're left only with extremists. Extremists will kill/die for their particular cause - that's one way you know they're extremists. An extreme pacifist would die for his cause - a moderate pacifist might, but he might also defend himself under the right conditions. There have been killers in every other category who killed for "their" cause even though the majority of their group (moderates) might have disagreed.
 
True. However I would suggest that there are several of those groups where the average member is much more likely to be willing to engage in violent behavior.

I would hope that we can all rightfully condemn the willingness to do violence when it is not necessary as a bad trait. Perhaps a political ideology that attracts violent people should re-examine itself and see what it needs to do to become more civilized.
 
Next to Timothy McVey, the social cons, anti-abortion and anti-gay folk have the highest body count.

If you count suicides by homosexuals growing up in an intolerant home, the Christian Cons may beat McVey.
 
Tigger, you forgot to include KKK and neo-Nazis.
 
Greenies don't have the testicular fortitude to take any action outside of recycling and self righteousness, Mainstream Conservatives are all lip service generally no action, and Moderates are too complacent. All other groups have shown the capacity to kill/die for their cause in the past.

To the bolded: oh, but they do. Greenies have been on the FBI terrorist tracking sheet for years now. Remember ELF?
 
In all places, all times, none of them has a decisive lead over the others. All of them will kill if they have the resources and ability to get away with it without incurring a great deal of loss to themselves. Exceptions are moderates, because the nature of killing contradicts the essence of their philosophy, and any sects of any group who are philosophically devoted to pacifism.

In general, human beings don't need much of a reason to kill anyone; the only reason people in the West don't is because we have been domesticated by our technology and indulgent materialist culture.
 
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To the bolded: oh, but they do. Greenies have been on the FBI terrorist tracking sheet for years now. Remember ELF?

ELF existed for about five minutes.

All were caught and turned on their friends.

A few went to jail.
 
Animal rights activists often put themselves in great danger to rescue animals. They go after whaling boats. Dog fighting clubs run by organized crime and many other things.
 
Animal rights activists often put themselves in great danger to rescue animals. They go after whaling boats. Dog fighting clubs run by organized crime and many other things.

Speaking of Organized Crime... Why was the Italian Mafia left off the list? Hasn't Tigger ever heard of Omerta?
 
As described, none of them.
And blood will be spilled if any of them bother me.
 
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