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which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?


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We know already, that you expect a zero tax rate and still have the government services that allowed the creation of your wealth and the protection of it.

The far right wing expects something for nothing. You've made your point.

I already pay the top income rates. WTF should I have to pay a surtax that people like you don't pay when you get more government benefits than i do

I pay taxes-you seem to forget that
 
I already pay the top income rates. WTF should I have to pay a surtax that people like you don't pay when you get more government benefits than i do

Still making you absurd claim with your usual lack of any evidence whatsoever. Only the far right buys that horse crap. As the 99% are aware, even if you are not, the estate tax rate is the lowest its been in 80 years, so please stop your whining.

I pay taxes-you seem to forget that

Except for the poor seniors and the disabled, we all pay taxes. The middle class pays a higher tax rate than those whose income is primarily from investments, as 400 hundred of your rich brethren testified before Congress.

The jig is up! :2wave:
 
Still making you absurd claim with your usual lack of any evidence whatsoever. Only the far right buys that horse crap. As the 99% are aware, even if you are not, the estate tax rate is the lowest its been in 80 years, so please stop your whining.

Lowest in 80 years= justification for the tax. :lol: How does that even get close to justifying anything?

Except for the poor seniors and the disabled, we all pay taxes. The middle class pays a higher tax rate than those whose income is primarily from investments, as 400 hundred of your rich brethren testified before Congress.

You want to prove that claim?
 
Lowest in 80 years= justification for the tax. :lol: How does that even get close to justifying anything?

As you well know, the constitution justifies taxes and is upheld under the rule of law.

You want to prove that claim?

"The actual number of Americans who don’t pay any taxes isn’t half, but 14%. This group of non-taxpayers of any kind is largely composed of the elderly and disabled. The people who don’t pay taxes do so because they can’t work."
It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes


Mitt's 15% Problem: Romney Pays Less Than Families Making $50,000



Millionaires ask Congress to raise their taxes
 
As you well know, the constitution justifies taxes and is upheld under the rule of law.

So you are still waiting to justify the tax or do you think that alone means anything to me? I guess I can wait a bit longer..


"The actual number of Americans who don’t pay any taxes isn’t half, but 14%. This group of non-taxpayers of any kind is largely composed of the elderly and disabled. The people who don’t pay taxes do so because they can’t work."
It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes

My point wasn't about this bit here so I have no reason to respond to it.


He pays less? That chart doesn't prove that.

What it is doing is basically saying income tax rates and capital gains rates are the same thing and at the same time failing at math. 15% of a million is what? 15% of 50,000 is what?


Oh look a few guys want to pay more but want everyone else to join them before they do anything.
 
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So you are still waiting to justify the tax or do you think that alone means anything to me? I guess I can wait a bit longer..




My point wasn't about this bit here so I have no reason to respond to it.



He pays less? That chart doesn't prove that.

What it is doing is basically saying income tax rates and capital gains rates are the same thing and at the same time failing at math. 15% of a million is what? 15% of 50,000 is what?



Oh look a few guys want to pay more but want everyone else to join them before they do anything.



When you build up the energy to back up your opinions with facts let me know.
 
The opinions are where exactly?

The opinions in your last post, or most of your posts if you prefer, as you rarely back up your opinions ever.
 
The opinions in your last post, or most of your posts if you prefer, as you rarely back up your opinions ever.

Where are the opinions in post #1605?
 
"The end of the world" is completely irrelevant. It's about what is morally the right thing to do. Taking away over 50% of a billionaire is not the end of the world to his children but it is, at least in my opinion, not the right thing to do.
You're concerned that they aren't going to be able to get by on just $500 million per year? You think taking home some $240,000 an hour isn't going to be enough incentive to keep the guy working at whatever it is that he does?

Tax codes aren't supposed to be cute and cuddly or warm and fuzzy. They are supposed to be cold and calculating. The welfare of a nation depends on them, after all. Soft-hearted gift-giving merely comes out of someone else's pocket in the end. And when the gifts are given to the rich, guess who that someone else turns out to be.
 
I already pay the top income rates. WTF should I have to pay a surtax that people like you don't pay when you get more government benefits than i do

I pay taxes-you seem to forget that

A statement like this "I already pay the top income tax rates" can be both truthful and extremely deceptive at the same time. True in that it is a statement of narrow fact. Deceptive in that it does not tell the whole story about taxation in America and can lead to the wrong conclusion.

We do not have your income tax return in front of us so only you know what you pay. However, in the past you have stated that much of your income comes from long term capital gains. As you are well aware, you get a much lower discriminatory preference in the rate on that compared to wages of the same level. A million in capital gains only gets you a tax bill of about $150,000.00 while a million in wages hits you between $330 and 340,000.00. So you are hardly paying at the top when all things are considered. And you also stated that you inherited money. Sizable portions of that were exempted so no tax was paid on that. Millions upon millions of dollars could have been given to you and you paid ZERO on them. That is hardly what one thinks of when one claims to be paying "the top rates".

I believe you may have just answered you own question about why some pay the estate tax while others do not. And please remember, there is no relationship between taxes paid and services used. That sort of relationship is for the retail shopping experience. So it is irrelevant.
 
I think it is disgusting that those who pay the most income taxes during their lives are the only one parasatized by the death tax when they die
Dead people are dead. They tell no tales and they pay no taxes. Your estate winks on when you wink off. If your estate earns income, it obviously owes income tax. If it owns real property, it obviously owes all applicable property taxes. If it isn't offset by very generous exemptions and deductions, it obviously owes estate taxes before it is distributed as a windfall profit to living people who had nothing to do with amassing any of the funds.

People who are actually wealthy don't seem to spend so much time grousing over estate taxes. For the most part, they understand that it comes with the territory and have already spent the relatively little time that it took to review their situations and set up plans to minimize the estate taxes that might eventually end up being owed. Once that's done, they move on. There are bigger fish to fry in the world, after all.
 
most of your posts are pretty idiotic but claiming I suck at the public tit is beyond brain dead
Most of my posts you aren't able to muster any sort of reply to at all. Probably because you've spent so much time admiring yourself that there hasn't been enough of that left over to invest in becoming aware of very much else.

Meanwhile, you are awash in an invisible sea of public goods and services that make your life possible. You think that because you pay taxes, you are off the hook as a welfare basket case, but it goes much deeper than that. Are food stamp recipients spending their money in ways that ultimately benefit you or your investments? Unemployed people? Soldiers? Other government workers? Social Security pensioners? Defense industry contractors? What goes around, comes around, and you are more than well plugged in for your fair share of public-teat-sucking, that's for sure.
 
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Most of my posts you aren't able to muster any sort of reply to at all. Probably because you've spent so much time admiring yourself that there hasn't been enough of that left over to invest in becoming aware of very much else.

Welcome to the club. I have long ago become numb to seeing my posts reproduced and then completely ignored in favor of the same old statements of belief based on personal greed. Its old hat by now.
 
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that is like trying to justify the Jim Crow laws by claiming that they were not as bad as the years of slavery
LOL! Only to the extent that insisting upon a rational income distribution that accounts for the actual needs of all citizens is the moral equivalent of slavery. You do come up with some of the most thoroughly contorted examples of illogic!
 
unless you are paying the taxes don't tell others who do what is the end of the world. and its not a few thousand in many cases. until and unless you pay the same amount as those you think shouldn't whine you have absolutely no standing
Money as the measure of all things. Once again, not an attitude typical of those who actually have any.
 
I pay taxes-you seem to forget that
Everyone pays taxes. YOU seem to forget that. Most taxpayers have little if any means for minimizing or avoiding the taxes that they owe and pay. The rich have all sorts of tools available with which to accomplish that.

And the bottom line of course is that the actually wealthy have so much money left over AFTER they have paid all the taxes that they owe that the taxes themselves have very little meaning to them anymore. It's like the difference between being 9-under-par instead of 10-under-par as you cruise to victory in the final round of the US Open.
 
So you are still waiting to justify the tax or do you think that alone means anything to me? I guess I can wait a bit longer..
The Constitution means nothing to right-wingers. Obligations to other people mean nothing to them. They want all the goodies and none of the costs. They are a gaggle of irresponsible spoiled brats.
 
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Welcome to the club. I have long ago become numb to seeing my posts reproduced and then completely ignored in favor of the same old statements of belief based on personal greed. Its old hat by now.
Thanks. It's kind of like dealing with an assortment of PEZ dispensers Even the rote responses of a Magic 8-Ball are ultimately more diversified and interesting than those of a PEZ dispenser. Magic 8-Balls are in fact intellectual titans in comparison to PEZ dispensers.
 
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Still making you absurd claim with your usual lack of any evidence whatsoever. Only the far right buys that horse crap. As the 99% are aware, even if you are not, the estate tax rate is the lowest its been in 80 years, so please stop your whining.



Except for the poor seniors and the disabled, we all pay taxes. The middle class pays a higher tax rate than those whose income is primarily from investments, as 400 hundred of your rich brethren testified before Congress.

The jig is up! :2wave:

you keep forgetting in your mindless envy driven posts that the only and I repeat ONLY people who have to pay the abomination known as the death tax are the people who have already paid 40% of the income tax. Your posts are oozing spite towards those who pay some of your load of the bill and you whine that they aren't paying enough

That is pathetic
 
Dead people are dead. They tell no tales and they pay no taxes. Your estate winks on when you wink off. If your estate earns income, it obviously owes income tax. If it owns real property, it obviously owes all applicable property taxes. If it isn't offset by very generous exemptions and deductions, it obviously owes estate taxes before it is distributed as a windfall profit to living people who had nothing to do with amassing any of the funds.

People who are actually wealthy don't seem to spend so much time grousing over estate taxes. For the most part, they understand that it comes with the territory and have already spent the relatively little time that it took to review their situations and set up plans to minimize the estate taxes that might eventually end up being owed. Once that's done, they move on. There are bigger fish to fry in the world, after all.

more nonsense. You seem to try to justify an unfair surtax on a small group on the grounds that they can try to avoid it. That's like saying if you get robbed its your fault-if you had better locks, a stronger door and a good alarm system you could have minimized the loss due to a burglar
 
Most of my posts you aren't able to muster any sort of reply to at all. Probably because you've spent so much time admiring yourself that there hasn't been enough of that left over to invest in becoming aware of very much else.

Meanwhile, you are awash in an invisible sea of public goods and services that make your life possible. You think that because you pay taxes, you are off the hook as a welfare basket case, but it goes much deeper than that. Are food stamp recipients spending their money in ways that ultimately benefit you or your investments? Unemployed people? Soldiers? Other government workers? Social Security pensioners? Defense industry contractors? What goes around, comes around, and you are more than well plugged in for your fair share of public-teat-sucking, that's for sure.


You don't make any points You sit back pretending other people ought to pay more money because you feel that way

And you have the nerve to claim people who pay far far more than they use are teat suckers. MOre limousine liberal lies
 
more nonsense. You seem to try to justify an unfair surtax on a small group on the grounds that they can try to avoid it. That's like saying if you get robbed its your fault-if you had better locks, a stronger door and a good alarm system you could have minimized the loss due to a burglar

Well, I would be all for taxing the cash, and letting the stocks and real property pass to the heir with valuation based on original purchase, no matter how many times an asset has been transferred. That way, real property can stay in the family. Of course, I would only allow a certain amount of cash, like 5MM, maybe. Stocks pass at original purchase price.
 
Well, I would be all for taxing the cash, and letting the stocks and real property pass to the heir with valuation based on original purchase, no matter how many times an asset has been transferred. That way, real property can stay in the family. Of course, I would only allow a certain amount of cash, like 5MM, maybe. Stocks pass at original purchase price.

Death should not be a taxable event and wealth in a family should not be taxed when transferred from one family member to another unless clear income from an income generating activity. The government already takes too much from the only people hit with the death tax
 
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Death should not be a taxable event and wealth in a family should not be taxed when transferred from one family member to another unless clear income from an income generating activity. The government already takes too much from the only people hit with the death tax
it's not..............
 
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