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which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?

which best describes your view of the inheritance tax?


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Isn't it amazing how bent out of shape the tax the rich more crowd gets over calling their wealth stealing scheme a death tax.
They don't like it when you don't use their approved terms. They want to control everything, even the language you use.
 
This sums up the issue as well as I've seen:

"I’m not sure what’s more offensive: the selfish efforts to secure yet another tax break for the wealthy, or the bogus and insulting economic threats with which they are trying to sell it." - David Goldstein.

Northwest Progressive Institute Archive: Whining about the estate tax

I don't know what is more offensive

uber rich asses like Buffett demanding to jack up a tax that bothers them none in the least in order to garner ass kissing and gratitude from the envious ne'er do wells and failures or those ne'er do wells and failures whining about the rich and demanding the rich pay a tax that these mediocrities will never have to pay themselves

quoting a socialist website on taxes is about as worthwhile as quoting Black September as to the legitimacy of the State of Israel
 
They don't like it when you don't use their approved terms. They want to control everything, even the language you use.

They love calling semi auto sporting rifles "ASSAULT WEAPONS" or pistols poor people can afford "SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS" (A racist term BTW) but they suffer severe conniptions when we call their beloved wealth confiscation schemes death taxes
 
They love calling semi auto sporting rifles "ASSAULT WEAPONS" or pistols poor people can afford "SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS" (A racist term BTW) but they suffer severe conniptions when we call their beloved wealth confiscation schemes death taxes
Two words: thoughtcrime.

I mean, seriously, you can't run an effective violent interventionist redistributionist collectivist totalitarian regime without controlling the language.
 
Two words: thoughtcrime.

I mean, seriously, you can't run an effective violent interventionist redistributionist collectivist totalitarian regime without controlling the language.

"we will teach our twisted speech to the young believers"

Joe Strummer "Clampdown"
 
This sums up the issue as well as I've seen:

"I’m not sure what’s more offensive: the selfish efforts to secure yet another tax break for the wealthy, or the bogus and insulting economic threats with which they are trying to sell it." - David Goldstein.

Northwest Progressive Institute Archive: Whining about the estate tax

David Goldstein shows just how stupid people can be every time he opens his mouth. Selfish is wanting what others earn for your own benefit. Selfish is not wanting to keep what you earn or give it to your children. If David Goldstein understood the terms he uses he would appear to be less stupid when he decides to speak but sadly that isn't something he thinks is worth his effort.
 
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David Goldstein shows just how stupid people can be every time he opens his mouth. Selfish is wanting what others earn for your own benefit. Selfish is not wanting to keep what you earn or give it to your children. If David Goldstein understood the terms he uses he would appear to be less stupid when he decides to speak but sadly that isn't something he thinks is worth his effort.

He's a clear parasitic pimp. He thinks others are more entitled to my wealth than my son or those I want to have it. he is nothing more than a thief in my book and in an ideal world, he should be treated the same as someone who breaks in your home and tries to take your money by force
 
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David Goldstein shows just how stupid people can be every time he opens his mouth. Selfish is wanting what others earn for your own benefit. Selfish is not wanting to keep what you earn or give it to your children. If David Goldstein understood the terms he uses he would appear to be less stupid when he decides to speak but sadly that isn't something he thinks is worth his effort.
I don't think it's selfish for families to wish to keep their assets. It's their stuff, after all. I just don't regard assets moving between family members to be the same as salary or investment income. The federal government should keep its hands off family wealth.

If the federal government would concern itself with federal issues, rather than meddling in the affairs of the states, maybe it would not have such an insatiable appetite for family wealth. Same with unconstitutional wars. If I have to choose between giving a family's assets to the federal government or allowing the family to keep them, I will generally come down on the side of letting people keep their stuff.
 
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You could tell me when the transfer was independent of someone dieing. Until you do that I see no reason to change how I call it.

Thousands of people die every day of the week, month and year. And they pay no estate or inheritance tax. Their death is totally independent of any tax associated with the event of death.

It is not the act of death which is taxed - it is the transfer of wealth from one person to a different person.

Consider this: one could die and have all their wealth , even great wealth, burned with their body viking style in a great and glorious pyre of flame. Their is nothing to transfer and the death of a wealthy person took place just the same.

It is not death that is taxed as we all can see it happens every hour of the day and there is not a tax upon it. Wealthy people can die and their estate not be subject to any tax if it is all burned with them.

So it is NOT death that is taxed and it is not even rich people who are taxed. It is the transfer of wealth from one person to the other that is taxed.
 
They love calling semi auto sporting rifles "ASSAULT WEAPONS" or pistols poor people can afford "SATURDAY NIGHT SPECIALS" (A racist term BTW) but they suffer severe conniptions when we call their beloved wealth confiscation schemes death taxes

Irrelevant nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject being discussed.
 
Millions have estates that are never taxed either. And the tax is paid before ANYTHING is transferred. For those of us who have served as executors of an estate that was parasitized by the death tax we know that fact
 
You could tell me when the transfer was independent of someone dieing. Until you do that I see no reason to change how I call it.

Just did.

And now you answer my question. If you are able to.
 
Irrelevant nonsense that has nothing to do with the subject being discussed.

Pretending that the death tax is meaningless or not a well known description of the tax you love so much is the real irrelevant nonsense

so is the demand by those who dont pay it that others pay more
 
Millions have estates that are never taxed either. And the tax is paid before ANYTHING is transferred. For those of us who have served as executors of an estate that was parasitized by the death tax we know that fact

By all means, present the actual language which supports this allegation. Allow me to assist you

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=108143,00.html

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If you don't have an estate plan and your estate isn't subject to probate, then each individual beneficiary will be responsible for signing and filing your estate tax return with the IRS and/or state taxing authorities and also signing the check to pay the taxes.
If you only have a Last Will and Testament but your estate isn't subject to probate, then each individual beneficiary will be responsible for signing and filing your estate tax return with the IRS and/or state taxing authorities and also signing the check to pay the taxes.

and now, two birds with one stone - both Henrin and Turtle and the transfer of an estate independent of death

from the wikipedia entry on that very topic

The estate tax in the United States is a tax imposed on the transfer of the "taxable estate" of a deceased person, whether such property is transferred via a will, according to the state laws of intestacy or otherwise made as an incident of the death of the owner, such as a transfer of property from an intestate estate or trust, or the payment of certain life insurance benefits or financial account sums to beneficiaries. The estate tax is one part of the Unified Gift and Estate Tax system in the United States. The other part of the system, the gift tax, imposes a tax on transfers of property during a person's life; the gift tax prevents avoidance of the estate tax should a person want to give away his/her estate.

So we know two things there
1- the estate tax is imposed on the transfer of the estate
2- should one want to transfer the estate before death occurs, that can be done independent of death and still pay a tax on that transfer
 
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They don't like it when you don't use their approved terms. They want to control everything, even the language you use.

You can use any language you want to use. Just expected to be criticized for engaging in intellectual fraud when you do so regarding the silly 'death tax'.
 
You can use any language you want to use. Just expected to be criticized for engaging in intellectual fraud when you do so regarding the silly 'death tax'.


Only by those in love with the raping of the estates by this abomination
 
Thousands of people die every day of the week, month and year. And they pay no estate or inheritance tax. Their death is totally independent of any tax associated with the event of death.

Yes, like people that are not rich. What does this prove exactly?

It is not the act of death which is taxed - it is the transfer of wealth from one person to a different person.

It dependent on the act of death when the assets are then to be transfered to the desired individual/s. Your description is forgetting why the transfer is occurring so you can just pretend it only just another transfer. However, much like any other gift tax it is dependent on the event that caused the transfer.

Consider this: one could die and have all their wealth , even great wealth, burned with their body viking style in a great and glorious pyre of flame. Their is nothing to transfer and the death of a wealthy person took place just the same.


It is not death that is taxed as we all can see it happens every hour of the day and there is not a tax upon it. Wealthy people can die and their estate not be subject to any tax if it is all burned with them.

Lol! Like that happens often.

So it is NOT death that is taxed and it is not even rich people who are taxed. It is the transfer of wealth from one person to the other that is taxed.

Covered this.
 
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Yes, like people that are not rich. What does this prove exactly?



It dependent on the act of death when the assets are then to be transfered to the desired individual/s. Your description is forgetting why the transfer is occurring so you can just pretend it only just another transfer. However, much like any other gift tax it is dependent on the event that caused the transfer.



Lol! Like that happens often.



Covered this.

1- it proves that there is no death tax since one can suffer death an pay no tax or be subject to no tax.
2- NO. go back and read it again. You can transfer an estate and pay tax while still living and no death has to occur. It death does occur, it is the transfer that is taxed - NOT the act of death.
3- You miss the point. Wealthy people do not have to transfer an estate. That is a simple fact. It is the transfer that invokes the tax.
 
1- it proves that there is no death tax since one can suffer death an pay no tax or be subject to no tax.
2- NO. go back and read it again. You can transfer an estate and pay tax while still living and no death has to occur. It death does occur, it is the transfer that is taxed - NOT the act of death.
3- You miss the point. Wealthy people do not have to transfer an estate. That is a simple fact. It is the transfer that invokes the tax.


that we call it the death tax apparently upsets you and a few other leftwingers who love anything that takes more money from the industrious and gives it to the government

but stop the nonsense that there is no death tax Its a well known alternative term for your beloved estate tax or inheritance tax or surtax on the wealthy or whatever the enrich the government more crowd want to call that abomination
 
3- You miss the point. Wealthy people do not have to transfer an estate. That is a simple fact. It is the transfer that invokes the tax.

IMO, a parent giving money to his child should not be a taxable event. I'll never support taxing transfers of money from a parent to a child. Fortunately, as the poll indicates, I'm not the only one who holds this opinion.
 
that we call it the death tax apparently upsets you and a few other leftwingers who love anything that takes more money from the industrious and gives it to the government

but stop the nonsense that there is no death tax Its a well known alternative term for your beloved estate tax or inheritance tax or surtax on the wealthy or whatever the enrich the government more crowd want to call that abomination
Death tax. Estate tax.
Tomato. Tomahto.
 
IMO, a parent giving money to his child should not be a taxable event. I'll never support taxing transfers of money from a parent to a child. Fortunately, as the poll indicates, I'm not the only one who holds this opinion.

what is disgusting is that there are 6 so who thinks the government is entitled to everything you own when you die. If people like that ever got into office and tried to implement such a disgusting theft of private wealth I'd be hoping someone would clone a few hundred Lee Harvey Oswalds:mrgreen:
 
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