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Does Anyone Think Gingrich is a Good Person?

Is he a good person?

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repeter said:
I know plenty of you are going to come into this thread thinking, "who cares if he's a good person, its about whether he could be a good President." If that's how you feel, okay, I respect that, but that's not the question here. The topic is whether he is or is not a good person. I was just really curious, because I haven't seen this question addressed seriously before, though I admit I haven't been on DP very much this election season.
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I think that very, very very few politicians are actually good people.


The only person currently running for, or occupying the office of, Prez, who qualifies as a "good person" is Ron Paul.... and I disagree with him a lot of things, but at least he's honest.

People who want to run things are rarely good people.
 
repeter said:
I know plenty of you are going to come into this thread thinking, "who cares if he's a good person, its about whether he could be a good President." If that's how you feel, okay, I respect that, but that's not the question here. The topic is whether he is or is not a good person. I was just really curious, because I haven't seen this question addressed seriously before, though I admit I haven't been on DP very much this election season.
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I don't tend to characterize people as good or bad. However, I think he has a lot of negative, untrustworthy traits and I wouldn't trust him in any situation at anytime. I also think it's ridiculous that people actually believe he is sorry for his actions and has repented or whatever. I think those peoples' gullibility makes me more nervous than he does.
 
bennymac5151 said:
Everyone benefits from that outsourcing through lower prices. And, last I checked, the manufacturing sector is actually quite strong in this country, despite the constant rhetoric surrounding its decline. We make stuff that help people make stuff, which is the best stuff to make!
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Not if you lose your job and as a result have to take a lower paying job.Outsourcing also encourages every manufacturer to cut corners thus making their stuff even more crappier.
 
Goshin said:
I think that very, very very few politicians are actually good people.

The only person currently running for, or occupying the office of, Prez, who qualifies as a "good person" is Ron Paul.... and I disagree with him a lot of things, but at least he's honest.

People who want to run things are rarely good people.
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I don't necessarily agree. I believe that the vast majority of people who get into politics actually have honest intent in the beginning and want to improve things. But, that the process slowly wears them down and the power corrupts them slowly over time. I'm not even sure they see it coming as clearly as others do.

As far as Ron Paul, I believe the whole "racist newsletter issue", and denial regarding said newsletters, is his dishonesty showing through.
 
grip said:
Personally, I wouldn't care if JR Ewing were running the country as long as he performed his duties well and was successful. I don't think we need the Pope right now but a shrewd, crafty old politician who's balanced the budget before.
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Read the OP next time please. This thread is specifically not going into that.
 
FluffyNinja said:
One question for you........Is it POSSIBLE to have a good administrator/leader who isn't an overall "good person" as you've put it? Just curious.
Be careful now.......you might want to take a long look at history before you answer.
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It is, but that's besides the point.
 
radcen said:
I don't necessarily agree. I believe that the vast majority of people who get into politics actually have honest intent in the beginning and want to improve things. But, that the process slowly wears them down and the power corrupts them slowly over time. I'm not even sure they see it coming as clearly as others do.

As far as Ron Paul, I believe the whole "racist newsletter issue", and denial regarding said newsletters, is his dishonesty showing through.
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I'll grant you that some begin with the best of intentions. I knew a guy well, thought he was a good fellow, he got into politics and eventually made State Senate... then got busted for all kinds of corruption. I don't think he started out with any such intentions, but the system is very corrupt.

By the time you get to running for Prez, I doubt there are many honest persons with a serious shot.
 
I don't base my evaluation of Newt on where he has parked his Johnson, but I on how he ended his two previous marriages, his unethical behavior as Speaker of the House (and as a congressman in general) and the many incidents over several decades of double-crossing other lawmakers in House / Senate / POTUS negotiations. This history screams: THIS MAN CANNOT BE TRUSTED!

I am truly baffled as to why evangelicals are willing to even consider the man as his behavior runs much further afoul of their belief system than any of the other candidates. I also baffled at why the GOPs who say Romney is too liberal are willing to consider a man whose history says he is at least as liberal as Romney. Does this guy have anything other than 'he is not Romney' to suggest that he is in any way, shape or form presidential material? If so, please feel free to state what that would be.

Finally, Newt's whole demeanor reminds me of another president - Richard Nixon. I realize many of you are not old enough to remember Nixon, but he was another megalomaniac blowhard who thought he was a king instead of a public servant. I would not be a tiny bit surprised if Newt pulled something as illegal as Watergate. Those who do not learn from their history are doomed to repeat it.
 
repeter said:
Read the OP next time please. This thread is specifically not going into that.
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Read it and understood. If being a good person has nothing to do with his ability as a President, then what does it pertain too? I'm not interested in Newt beyond his running for public office or his past. And I'm sure not going to judge my vote on who I like or appears the most moral.
 
jamesrage said:
Thats a matter of opinion.

Clinton signed anti-2nd amendment legislation.Its also because of Clinton why companies were allowed to outsource left and right to china and other countries thus destroying a lot of American jobs.
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These are NOT good reasons to condemn any man.
Bill Clinton did the right things...maybe not so for gun-lovers, but they do deserve to be resticted...and will be restricted even more as we progress.
 
earthworm said:
These are NOT good reasons to condemn any man.
Bill Clinton did the right things...maybe not so for gun-lovers, but they do deserve to be resticted...and will be restricted even more as we progress.
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Amazing how many fail to understand the intent of the 2nd amendment, The government has absolutely no business restricting the 2nd amendment period. I could care less if the .0001% of firearms in the US are used for crime, it doesn't justify ****ting on an essential constitutional right.
 
grip said:
Read it and understood. If being a good person has nothing to do with his ability as a President, then what does it pertain too? I'm not interested in Newt beyond his running for public office or his past. And I'm sure not going to judge my vote on who I like or appears the most moral.
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It pertains to my curiosity about people's view of Gingrich. And again, I understand that, but that isn't what this is about.
 
repeter said:
I know plenty of you are going to come into this thread thinking, "who cares if he's a good person, its about whether he could be a good President." If that's how you feel, okay, I respect that, but that's not the question here. The topic is whether he is or is not a good person. I was just really curious, because I haven't seen this question addressed seriously before, though I admit I haven't been on DP very much this election season.
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I think his intentions are good, but that he is also the center of his own universe (much more so than most people are) and is prone to grandiose plans that may or may not pan out in reality. Plus he has an authoritarian streak that is worrysome.
 
repeter said:
It pertains to my curiosity about people's view of Gingrich. And again, I understand that, but that isn't what this is about.
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That's a legitimate reason. But I don't judge people good and bad personally. I think it's too simplistic and unrealistic. Newt is confident to the point of arrogance, and doesn't IMO equate his misdeeds with others. But we're all creatures of ego and that doesn't equal as a disqualifier though it can raise question to his judgment.
 
Don't know him personally, so, can't say.

Though there are many people in my life, I can't really think of someone I consider a "bad" or "evil" person. There's just cool people and douchebags/assholes. Newt may very well belong in the latter category, but that doesn't necessarily make him a "bad person."
 
It's very easy to stand on a stage and tell the american people exactly what they want to hear and how easy it's going to be for him to fix those problems. But since he's unethical, a liar, and a cheat, with a record to prove it, it would be impossible to believe he would actually do any of the things he would promise.

So no. He isn't a good person.

Bee
 
He appears to be a womanizing psychopath.

And the sad thing is, I actually respected him just a few months ago.
 
Bettina said:
It's very easy to stand on a stage and tell the american people exactly what they want to hear and how easy it's going to be for him to fix those problems. But since he's unethical, a liar, and a cheat, with a record to prove it, it would be impossible to believe he would actually do any of the things he would promise.

So no. He isn't a good person.

Bee
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Black and White Records don't matter in politics. People play like they aren't real...or claim that some liberal or conservative media person or outlet just makes it up.

You could have actually pictures of Newt having sex with a mistress and people would ignore or deny it's real.

You could have Offshore bank owners testify that Romney had 100s of millions in their banks and it would be considered a matter of no importance.

You could have pictures of Obama having private dinner with the CEO of Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan...with him taking a check from each of them for a million bucks each...and naaaaaaaahhhhh. Nobody would believe it.

Politicians legalized liars...they've legislated themselves above the law.

As far as personal character. Maybe our politicians are nothing but a mirror of our society. That's why nobody cares.
 
jamesrage said:
Not if you lose your job and as a result have to take a lower paying job.Outsourcing also encourages every manufacturer to cut corners thus making their stuff even more crappier.
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A good point, James, but only on the short term.
Cutting corners ( as put) is NOT necessarily bad....having the "corners" can be wastful....and guess who pays for this waste.
Stuff is crappy today (and its always been that way) as a bad attitude exists... both labor, government, and management..
Hey! Guys, we are all on the same side !
 
repeter said:
I know plenty of you are going to come into this thread thinking, "who cares if he's a good person, its about whether he could be a good President." If that's how you feel, okay, I respect that, but that's not the question here. The topic is whether he is or is not a good person. I was just really curious, because I haven't seen this question addressed seriously before, though I admit I haven't been on DP very much this election season.
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Gingrich is a douchebag.
 
jamesrage said:
Amazing how many fail to understand the intent of the 2nd amendment, The government has absolutely no business restricting the 2nd amendment period. I could care less if the .0001% of firearms in the US are used for crime, it doesn't justify ****ting on an essential constitutional right.
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This right may well have been necessary and vital 200 years ago, our government is just keeping up with the ever changing times(more or less)...
but some just wish for time to stand still.
Now, in Mexico(America's sewer ?), its a different story.
Peruse what NPR has to say about this.
Being "good" is a must, particularly today, for a man to be successful; the idea is to be NOT a goodie-two-shoes,
 
repeter said:
I know plenty of you are going to come into this thread thinking, "who cares if he's a good person, its about whether he could be a good President." If that's how you feel, okay, I respect that, but that's not the question here. The topic is whether he is or is not a good person. I was just really curious, because I haven't seen this question addressed seriously before, though I admit I haven't been on DP very much this election season.
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I think its extremely difficult to judge the type of person someone is in terms of them being "good" or not simply based off their public persona and the pieces of their personal life that is deemed juicey enough to be reported in the news.
 
Zyphlin said:
I think its extremely difficult to judge the type of person someone is in terms of them being "good" or not simply based off their public persona and the pieces of their personal life that is deemed juicey enough to be reported in the news.
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I agree, but I can't imagine Gingrich actually doing something so good that it would outweight the fact that he cheated on two wives, while both were seriously ill and in need of support. If the man is despicable enough to do that, to be that selfish and immoral, I really would consider whether he would do good for it's own sake. To me, this is a case where, despite not having the entire picture, what I do have is enough to draw conclusions from.
 
earthworm said:
This right may well have been necessary and vital 200 years ago, our government is just keeping up with the ever changing times(more or less)...
but some just wish for time to stand still.
Now, in Mexico(America's sewer ?), its a different story.
Peruse what NPR has to say about this.
Being "good" is a must, particularly today, for a man to be successful; the idea is to be NOT a goodie-two-shoes,
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Needing to keep a tyrannical government at bay and needing the means to over throw a tyrannical government never disappears.It doesn't matter if it is 1776 or 2012 or sometime later.
 
Bettina said:
It's very easy to stand on a stage and tell the american people exactly what they want to hear and how easy it's going to be for him to fix those problems. But since he's unethical, a liar, and a cheat, with a record to prove it, it would be impossible to believe he would actually do any of the things he would promise.

So no. He isn't a good person.

Bee
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If he can't be loyal to spouse and has ethics problems then why would anyone in their right mind think Gingrich would actually do a good job as president. A piece of **** like that is most likely to sell us out further down the river.
 
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