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Marijuana

How should Marijuana be dealt with?

  • Stricter federal laws must be made, and more money put to enforcing them

    Votes: 7 7.2%

  • Give individual states the right to decide how to go about it

    Votes: 32 33.0%

  • Legalize it through a federal law

    Votes: 42 43.3%

  • Give states the right to decide about it as long as they abide by certain Federal guidelines

    Votes: 16 16.5%
  • Total voters
    97
Re: Marijuna

Your Star said:
^^^ So sorry you had to go through all that Tess, sounds awful. :(
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My therapist says I have a resillient personality. I call myself a bouncy ball.

That is to say: I was there, it happened, and I'm still alive. All of that means I have experience and insight beyond the "typical" 26 year old, and I'm still alive to apply it. So I have a choice: I can either mope and cry and stagnate out of fear and anger, or I can be better. I want to be better.
 
Re: Marijuna

Make it legal, tax it and put the money that used to be wasted on law enforcement and drug war into drug risk education programs and drug rehab.

As for other drugs, the more harmless drugs should be legalized like marihuana/THC, the harder drugs should be available by doctor's prescription. I don't see it's a bad thing when a heroin addict can find a doctor who's willing to prescribe him "clean" heroin that minimizes the risks that come with illegal stuff (bad hygiene, dangerous elongating agents etc), destroys the black market and ideally a supervized attempt to continously lower the dose to get off the stuff.
 
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tessaesque said:
My therapist says I have a resillient personality. I call myself a bouncy ball.

That is to say: I was there, it happened, and I'm still alive. All of that means I have experience and insight beyond the "typical" 26 year old, and I'm still alive to apply it. So I have a choice: I can either mope and cry and stagnate out of fear and anger, or I can be better. I want to be better.
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I get that, I feel the same way. You can either be a victim, or you can live your life to the fullest. Not really a choice really, but for some people they just don't think there life is worth fighting for. Sad.
 
Re: Marijuna

Your Star said:
I get that, I feel the same way. You can either be a victim, or you can live your life to the fullest. Not really a choice really, but for some people they just don't think there life is worth fighting for. Sad.
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For some of us, when we look at the biography, there really isn't much there worth fighting for, Star.
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
For some of us, when we look at the biography, there really isn't much there worth fighting for, Star.
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Your life is always worth fighting for.
 
Re: Marijuna

liblady said:
perhaps when you don't value other's lives you don't value your own. every life.
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I would suggest it's probably more the inverse, but that's a topic for another time and place.
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
Tessa, if we decirminalize THC because it's so costly to uphold the law, what else follows suit? Are all drugs then decriminalized? How about prostitution? After that, what else should be decriminalized? I do have sympathy for your story [seriously, I do], yet what happens when we decriminalize and decriminalize until we have to start thinking of new things to decriminalize?
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Yes all drugs, yes prostitution in designated areas which are managed by law to specific standards. By making it "allowed" and taking the mystery out of it, it becomes less of a taboo and therefore the curiosity drops. My other reason is that people will then have to discuss the topic and parents/kids can have a real discussion about it. Those who are dumb enough to kill themselves on drugs remove themselves from the gene pool and that makes the human race stronger. People lived thousands of years without some monarch or government authority telling the people they shouldn't do it.

Your Star said:
^^^ So sorry you had to go through all that Tess, sounds awful. :(
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It does sound awful but Tess lived through it, because she had to and became strong because of it.

tessaesque said:
As for prostitution and the slippery slope argument: Prostitution is legal and regulated in Nevada and it's one of the safest systems in place, for both the prostitute and the customer.
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Tigger said:
I don't eat them, so what would I care?
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One of the joys of life includes cheetos and beer. Andy Capps Hot Fries are a close second...

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Re: Marijuna

If society has no problem with cigarettes and alcohol, this should seriously be a no brainer. Legalize the stuff, everyone is going to smoke it anyways.
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
Tessa, if we decirminalize THC because it's so costly to uphold the law, what else follows suit? Are all drugs then decriminalized? How about prostitution? After that, what else should be decriminalized? I do have sympathy for your story [seriously, I do], yet what happens when we decriminalize and decriminalize until we have to start thinking of new things to decriminalize?
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Speaking of prostitution, why is it illegal to sell something that's perfectly fine to give away for free?
 
Re: Marijuna

Thorgasm said:
Speaking of prostitution, why is it illegal to sell something that's perfectly fine to give away for free?
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Since we're talking about female dignity as though it's a commodity, I'll ask you a question in jest:

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Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
Tessa, if we decirminalize THC because it's so costly to uphold the law, what else follows suit? Are all drugs then decriminalized? How about prostitution? After that, what else should be decriminalized? I do have sympathy for your story [seriously, I do], yet what happens when we decriminalize and decriminalize until we have to start thinking of new things to decriminalize?
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Prostitution needs to be legalied. Other than that, your argument makes no sense.
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
Since we're talking about female dignity as though it's a commodity, I'll ask you a question in jest:

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I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that a woman who elects to prostitute herself is automatically without dignity. Yes, there are a great number of women who probably prostitute to acquire drug money, because they are otherwise unhireable due to a drug habit/criminal past, etc. But there are also women who choose to prostitute because they like the thrill, the pay-out, or the sex. Hell, there are even prostitutes who don't perform sexual acts at all...they merely provide company to men in an "innocent" context.

And then again, there are also male prostitutes. To assume that the only way prostitution can exist is if women are degraded is.....pious..or sanctimonious, even. And it's wrong.
 
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evanescence said:
Prostitution needs to be legalied. Other than that, your argument makes no sense.
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I am on the fence.

What I mean is that if we decriminalize things simply because they're primarily costly, like stopping illegal drugs, what else will we then look for to decriminalize?

I think prostitution is degrading for women. I get that there are some men who do it as well, but mainly women do it. I have a sense of pride, and I ache at the thought of people selling their bodie just to be able to afford food/drugs/whatever.
 
Re: Marijuna

tessaesque said:
I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that a woman who elects to prostitute herself is automatically without dignity. Yes, there are a great number of women who probably prostitute to acquire drug money, because they are otherwise unhireable due to a drug habit/criminal past, etc. But there are also women who choose to prostitute because they like the thrill, the pay-out, or the sex. Hell, there are even prostitutes who don't perform sexual acts at all...they merely provide company to men in an "innocent" context.

And then again, there are also male prostitutes. To assume that the only way prostitution can exist is if women are degraded is.....pious..or sanctimonious, even. And it's wrong.
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It's amazing that some people think they can stop prostitution, a profession that's nickname is the oldest profession on Earth. It hasn't gone anywhere, and it's never going to go anywhere, it's at the very core of our biology(to want sex), and selling sex will always be around. We need to make it safe for people, not led criminals run the trade.
 
Re: Marijuna

tessaesque said:
I think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that a woman who elects to prostitute herself is automatically without dignity. Yes, there are a great number of women who probably prostitute to acquire drug money, because they are otherwise unhireable due to a drug habit/criminal past, etc. But there are also women who choose to prostitute because they like the thrill, the pay-out, or the sex. Hell, there are even prostitutes who don't perform sexual acts at all...they merely provide company to men in an "innocent" context.

And then again, there are also male prostitutes. To assume that the only way prostitution can exist is if women are degraded is.....pious..or sanctimonious, even. And it's wrong.
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I think prostitution does cost dignity. Whether you like the thrill, sex, or money I find it wrong. What can I say? It's what I honestly believe. Some people sell drugs for thrill, and others for money, yet I still think it's wrong and undignified to sell drugs illegally. :shrug:

As for the "innocent" context, I still find it creepy, at least.

Men do it as well, but to a lesser extent. From a Christian perspective, you are to respect your body, your "temple" for the soul. I find it wrong to sell your body for carnal lusts and money.
 
Re: Marijuna

Your Star said:
It's amazing that some people think they can stop prostitution, a profession that's nickname is the oldest profession on Earth. It hasn't gone anywhere, and it's never going to go anywhere, it's at the very core of our biology(to want sex), and selling sex will always be around. We need to make it safe for people, not led criminals run the trade.
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I wouldn't say never. Tomorrow's technological advances could shatter that notion of "never."

Though, who knows. Just because you may not be able to stop it 100% doesn't mean I don't think it's wrong. Same with murder/theft/whatever.
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
I am on the fence.

What I mean is that if we decriminalize things simply because they're primarily costly, like stopping illegal drugs, what else will we then look for to decriminalize?

I think prostitution is degrading for women. I get that there are some men who do it as well, but mainly women do it. I have a sense of pride, and I ache at the thought of people selling their bodie just to be able to afford food/drugs/whatever.
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Just because drugs are decriminalized, it doesn't mean that other crimes need to be decriminalized. There is not a connection.
 
Re: Marijuna

evanescence said:
Just because drugs are decriminalized, it doesn't mean that other crimes need to be decriminalized. There is not a connection.
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I never said there was a connection. I do understand, though, that if people wish to decriminalize things like drugs and prostitution, other things are bound to be decriminalized in the future. Out of curiousity, do you think that after drugs and prostitution are decriminalized, that will be the end of decriminalization?
 
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