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Marijuana

How should Marijuana be dealt with?

  • Stricter federal laws must be made, and more money put to enforcing them

    Votes: 7 7.2%

  • Give individual states the right to decide how to go about it

    Votes: 32 33.0%

  • Legalize it through a federal law

    Votes: 42 43.3%

  • Give states the right to decide about it as long as they abide by certain Federal guidelines

    Votes: 16 16.5%
  • Total voters
    97
Re: Marijuna

Tigger:

Anyone could kick a candle over and start a fire. The fire wasn't started by Marijuana. People don't have to be "Pot heads" to fail to call 911 to report a fire. Your entire argument is a red herring. Your example fails on so many levels.

Tigger said:
Oh it had everything to do with them burning down the building. More importantly it had everything to do with them FAILING TO REPORT THE FIRE THAT THEY HAD STARTED. A FAILURE THAT ENDED UP GETTING 6 GOOD MEN KILLED. It would have been better if their worthless asses had roasted inside that building, instead.

My point, and the point I will always make in regards to this topic is that like alcohol, the use of marijuana places an individual in an altered mental state where they are no longer capable of making good, proper, and right decisions on a moments notice. THAT in and of itself should be enough to get the plant eradicated from the entire planet. That is also why the mere possession of the product should lead to an immediate death sentence, without trial. There is NO worthwhile medicinal or narcotic use for the plant. IF a version were capable of being produced that could make hemp without any chance of being converted back into a form that could be smoked, I'd be for allowing that. Otherwise, wipe it and all of its users off this planet and we'll be better off so far as I'm concerned.
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The death penalty without trial? I'm beginning to think you favor child molesters over potheads. You've never spoke of them with such hatred. :dohNot to mention that this statement of yours is completely anti American. Well done.
 
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evanescence said:
The death penalty without trial? I'm beginning to think you favor child molesters over potheads. You've never spoke of them with such hatred. :dohNot to mention that this statement of yours is completely anti American. Well done.
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I see a redeeming value in corporal punishment and discipline. I see no redeeming value in the possession, sale, distribution, or use of that crap. I think my feelings on the panty-waisted and linguini-spined version of society that America currently engenders is already well known.
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
Oh it had everything to do with them burning down the building. More importantly it had everything to do with them FAILING TO REPORT THE FIRE THAT THEY HAD STARTED. A FAILURE THAT ENDED UP GETTING 6 GOOD MEN KILLED. It would have been better if their worthless asses had roasted inside that building, instead.

My point, and the point I will always make in regards to this topic is that like alcohol, the use of marijuana places an individual in an altered mental state where they are no longer capable of making good, proper, and right decisions on a moments notice. THAT in and of itself should be enough to get the plant eradicated from the entire planet. That is also why the mere possession of the product should lead to an immediate death sentence, without trial. There is NO worthwhile medicinal or narcotic use for the plant. IF a version were capable of being produced that could make hemp without any chance of being converted back into a form that could be smoked, I'd be for allowing that. Otherwise, wipe it and all of its users off this planet and we'll be better off so far as I'm concerned.
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Tbh, that's pretty extreme. There is, however, some medical use for marijuana, though I favor tight regulations on it so as not to be abused.
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
Tbh, that's pretty extreme. There is, however, some medical use for marijuana, though I favor tight regulations on it so as not to be abused.
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I have severe glaucoma of the type that marijuana could possibly be used for if it were legal. I'd rather be blind than to ever even consider that treatment. My father died of cancer and refused any/all THC-related pain therapy. It's not necessary. There are other, legitimate options.
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
No. Not in the least. The fact that they were high is what caused the fire to begin with. The have stated that they were "fooling around" in that state when she accidentally kicked over the candle and they were not in a state of mind to be able to properly extinguish the fire before it spread beyond their ability to douse. If they hadn't had the marijuana the fire would likely never have started. If they'd been jailed (or better yet executed) during their prior marijuana related run ins with the law it never would have happened. If they had been willing to accept the responsibility for their actions (which they were not in their immoral state) the tragedy could have been averted.
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So the accidents that happen sober can be attributed to what, fun? Are you sure your not from Footlose?

Seriously, you are SO overreacting on marijuana, it does not do what you are describing. It does cause people to go crazy, and do wild things they wouldn't normally do. For the vast vast majority of people, all it does is make you sleepy, happy, and hungry. You don't get addicted to it like other drugs, and you can't overdose on it. There is really no danger with it at all. Legalize it and all be done with it.
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
Oh, there's a point there. You just don't want to admit it. You're damn right I have no experience with it, nor will I ever. I have severe glaucoma and I will tell you this.... I'd rather be BLIND than take any THC-related treatment for it; just as my father turned down all THC-related pain medications while he was dying of cancer. His life and my sight are not more important than our Souls, thank you very much.
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and i see this as a post of one who is willfully ignorant and proud of it
to have glaucoma and refuse to take a wonderful drug that will mitigate the effects of that disease is only something a fool would do
to experience the pain of cancer (and likely the nausea that accompanies many forms of treatment) and refuse to mitigate it because the soothing drug is marijuana is another act of ignorance
and then to pretend that your soul would be at risk if you indulged in marijuana may be the most stupid statement i have ever seen on the internet, and that is a VERY low threshold to cross

you have no argument. unless willful ignorance is an argument
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
I have severe glaucoma of the type that marijuana could possibly be used for if it were legal. I'd rather be blind than to ever even consider that treatment. My father died of cancer and refused any/all THC-related pain therapy. It's not necessary. There are other, legitimate options.
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If it works, it works. However, it's entirely your choice what way you want to be treated. I am not in your shoes, so I cannot say what is the best option.

From some articles I have read, including government articles, THC does have some harmful effects, ranging from tar that sticks to the neurons in the brain, to aiding in the cancers of the throat, lungs, and mouth.
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
If it works, it works. However, it's entirely your choice what way you want to be treated. I am not in your shoes, so I cannot say what is the best option.

From some articles I have read, including government articles, THC does have some harmful effects, ranging from tar that sticks to the neurons in the brain, to aiding in the cancers of the throat, lungs, and mouth.
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That's not the THC, but the act of smoking.
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
I see a redeeming value in corporal punishment and discipline. I see no redeeming value in the possession, sale, distribution, or use of that crap. I think my feelings on the panty-waisted and linguini-spined version of society that America currently engenders is already well known.
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So kill 'em all..that's your answer? I smoked some pot on New Years- Do I deserve to die??

Tigger said:
I have severe glaucoma of the type that marijuana could possibly be used for if it were legal. I'd rather be blind than to ever even consider that treatment. My father died of cancer and refused any/all THC-related pain therapy. It's not necessary. There are other, legitimate options.
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Why? Please explain what is so terrible about Marijuana.
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
Tell that to the families of the six Worcster, MA firefighters who died in the Worcester Cold Storage Warehouse fire on the night of December 3, 1999. that fire was unintentionally lit by a pair of dope smoking, homeless, wastes of flesh and oxygen who didn't even bother to report the fire when they left the building. 5 hours later six Worcester firefighters lost their lives when the building collapsed whild they were looking for those same two homeless people (who weren't even there). So please do not ever try to tell me that marijuana is "harmless".
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Marijuana doesn't start fires.
 
Re: Marijuna

Your Star said:
That's not the THC, but the act of smoking.
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In your own estimation, how many potheads, do you think, smoke marijuana instead of ingesting it?
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
No. Not in the least. The fact that they were high is what caused the fire to begin with. The have stated that they were "fooling around" in that state when she accidentally kicked over the candle and they were not in a state of mind to be able to properly extinguish the fire before it spread beyond their ability to douse. If they hadn't had the marijuana the fire would likely never have started. If they'd been jailed (or better yet executed) during their prior marijuana related run ins with the law it never would have happened. If they had been willing to accept the responsibility for their actions (which they were not in their immoral state) the tragedy could have been averted.




No. What it shows is that these two mother****ers should have been jailed or shot the moment they were arrested for possession the first time and this would never have happened.
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So marijuana causes people to kick over candles?
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
In your own estimation, how many potheads, do you think, smoke marijuana instead of ingesting it?
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I'm not sure, but you can use a vaporizer that drastically reduces the negative effects, and smoking a joint anyway has less negative effects than smoking cigarettes. Also if it was legalized you would see a lot of edibles in stores because they are popular, Hershey's bar with weed anyone?
 
Re: Marijuna

Thorgasm said:
Dave Matthews is a pyromaniac?
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Not that we know of, lol. I was joking. Marijuana doesn't start fires, but a pothead who's less than careful very well could.
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
but a pothead who's less than careful very well could.
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Ah Wake, ANYONE who's less than careful very well could.

An old lady who falls asleep with a cigarette in her hand VERY WELL COULD.
 
Re: Marijuna

Your Star said:
So the accidents that happen sober can be attributed to what, fun? Are you sure your not from Footlose?
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They can be attributed to any number of things, and those who inflict harm on others or themselves through their inability to make proper decisions need to be punished for that.

Your Star said:
Seriously, you are SO overreacting on marijuana, it does not do what you are describing. It does cause people to go crazy, and do wild things they wouldn't normally do. For the vast vast majority of people, all it does is make you sleepy, happy, and hungry. You don't get addicted to it like other drugs, and you can't overdose on it. There is really no danger with it at all. Legalize it and all be done with it.
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Yeah. No risk at all of that "sleepy, happy, hungry" mom or dad not being able to react on a second's notice to some serious medical trauma their child endures, or some other sort of emergency that comes up. I sure wish my mom and dad had been high on MJ the night I had my grand mal seizure at age 4. I'd probably be paralyzed for life on the left side of my body.


justabubba said:
and i see this as a post of one who is willfully ignorant and proud of it. to have glaucoma and refuse to take a wonderful drug that will mitigate the effects of that disease is only something a fool would do. to experience the pain of cancer (and likely the nausea that accompanies many forms of treatment) and refuse to mitigate it because the soothing drug is marijuana is another act of ignorance. and then to pretend that your soul would be at risk if you indulged in marijuana may be the most stupid statement i have ever seen on the internet, and that is a VERY low threshold to cross.
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Am I proud that I've never touched that ****.... DAMN STRAIGHT. I never will either. I was raised better than that.


Wake said:
If it works, it works. However, it's entirely your choice what way you want to be treated. I am not in your shoes, so I cannot say what is the best option.
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Even if it was the ONLY option, I would choose to avoid it. As I said, my Soul is worth more than my vision.


evanescence said:
So kill 'em all..that's your answer?
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If that's the only thing that seems to get people to changed their ways, then yes.

evanescence said:
Why? Please explain what is so terrible about Marijuana.
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It impairs an individual's ability to make good, right, and proper decisions on a moment's notice. I am, and always have been, of the opinion that ANY substance which removes or restrains an individual's ability to properly carry out their personal responsibilities in life should be universally banned and possession of it in any way should be among the most greivous crimes in society..... whether it's alcohol, marijuana, cocaine, etc....
 
Re: Marijuna

Wake said:
Not that we know of, lol. I was joking. Marijuana doesn't start fires, but a pothead who's less than careful very well could.
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Anyone who isn't careful could.
 
Re: Marijuna

Tigger said:
It impairs an individual's ability to make good, right, and proper decisions on a moment's notice. I am, and always have been, of the opinion that ANY substance which removes or restrains an individual's ability to properly carry out their personal responsibilities in life should be universally banned and possession of it in any way should be among the most greivous crimes in society..... whether it's alcohol, marijuana, cocaine, etc....
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How about Nyquil?
 
Re: Marijuna

It seems that the solution needs to be prohibition of lighters and matches.
 
Re: Marijuna

Your Star said:
I'm not sure, but you can use a vaporizer that drastically reduces the negative effects, and smoking a joint anyway has less negative effects than smoking cigarettes. Also if it was legalized you would see a lot of edibles in stores because they are popular, Hershey's bar with weed anyone?
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Tbh, when I was living briefly with my aunt, my cousins would snatch some of my pots and dirt and grow cannabis. Literally, they would actually enlighten me on the aspects of growing weed, the different "quality" of weed, and the various ways to grow them. They knew I was the "bookworm" of the family, lol, and they wanted me to help them grow marijuana the most efficient means possible. I threw my book at them and told them to take their "pot-pots" to an area of the lawn seperate from my brussel sprouts and tomato pots.

I don't know all of the intricacies of marijuana, but I do have an uncle and two cousins who routinely smoke it. I love my uncle, and he has a huge heart, but his memory, I think, is going by the wayside from 20+ years of smoking not only marijuana but cigarettes. My cousins don't smoke cigarettes, yet they have been doing marijuana since they were, what, 12-13 years old?

From my point of view, I hate toxins entering my body, and would never allow anything of that nature to harm my intellect. It's true. To make matters worse, my uncle owns his own painting business, which, after 20+ years of inhaling paint fumes, I think that has harmed his memory as well. I guess from my standpoint, and my emphasis on learning, studying, and intelligence, I naturally dislike anything that harms the body/brain, and robs me of my senses. So no, I don't smoke marijuana, and I don't eat it, either.

I think you can still suffer brain damage [some] from eating THC products, like THC butter, of which, amusingly, I witnessed firsthand my cousins make. I honestly don't know, and I doubt THC-free marijuana products, for the taste alone, are in circulation..
 
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