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Are There More Liberals or More Conservatives on DP?

Are There More Liberals or More Conservatives on DP?

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LuckyDan said:
I believe the more time one spends in America's learning institutions, unless they are rebels and damn smart, the more liberal they will be.

You mentioned a psycho and a physicist, as if they are one and the same. Both smart, yes, but neither representative of the popululace I am talking about. I am concerned with those libs who are above the Jerry Springer watchers, but who cannot see that Chomsky and Zinn are full of ****.
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so you worry about people that in your opinion buy BS and dont accept facts? interesting. ;)
 
I say more conservatives because if you add "libertarians" to the pot, then there are a **** ton of conservatives. And there literally is almost no difference between most libertarians and conservatives on this board.
 
whysoserious said:
I say more conservatives because if you add "libertarians" to the pot, then there are a **** ton of conservatives. And there literally is almost no difference between most libertarians and conservatives on this board.
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If I'm a conservative, you're a communist.

Conservative is to libertarian as white is to grey. Liberal is to libertarian as black is to grey. In essence, we're a hybrid of both worlds.
 
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JustinS said:
Whether or not Chomsky and Zinn are full of **** is your opinion, not necessarily everybody else's. Kasczynski was not a psycho, considering that he was never declared insane. But whether or not somebody is liberal or conservative has little to do with intelligence. More with upbringing, if you ask me.
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We are talking about the man who mailed bombs, are we not?
 
LuckyDan said:
We are talking about the man who mailed bombs, are we not?
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Yep. The line between insanity and sanity is quite hard to define, in many cases. He wasn't insane in the sense that his thought process was messed up; he just chose a radical way to demonstrate his radical views. Seeing technology as being the epitome of evil, destruction, etc., he chose the violent way to publish his manifesto.
 
LuckyDan said:
Hello, Justin.

Agree or disagree: The more educated one is, the more liberal one is likely to be.
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A good topic for another poll....
IMO, there is no doubt of this being absolutely true.
However, there is a difference , a real difference between being intelligent and being educated.
So, with all the so-called conservatives bouncing around, does this mean that our education system has failed ??
Or something else....
For instance ...we all wish to be wealthy(most of us anyway) and being conservative is more effective in this pursuit of the dollars.
 
JustinS said:
Yep. The line between insanity and sanity is quite hard to define, in many cases. He wasn't insane in the sense that his thought process was messed up; he just chose a radical way to demonstrate his radical views. Seeing technology as being the epitome of evil, destruction, etc., he chose the violent way to publish his manifesto.
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Dude is nuckin futs.
 
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earthworm said:
A good topic for another poll....
IMO, there is no doubt of this being absolutely true.
However, there is a difference , a real difference between being intelligent and being educated.
So, with all the so-called conservatives bouncing around, does this mean that our education system has failed ??
Or something else....
For instance ...we all wish to be wealthy(most of us anyway) and being conservative is more effective in this pursuit of the dollars.
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You agree the more educated one is, the more liberal one is. I'm right der witcha.

You hold there is a diff between being educated and being intelligent. Gotcha.

You ask whether the presence of cons ("all the so-called conservatives bouncing around") means "education has failed."

Then . . . . what?
 
Education has failed at what, indoctrination? :shock:

I'm more self educated than school educated, but people could still classify me as a liberal.
 
I voted for more conservatives here than liberals.

The one thing I know is absolute fact is that the percentage of people who claim they are libertarians is way way way out of proportion to the American populace. For some reason, right wing libertarians have decided that internet message boards are the battleground for the hearts and minds of the next generation.
 
X Factor said:
Yes, I know, there are more political leans than just conservative/liberal, but I know some have an opinion on this specific question. I'm conducting an experiment. Does it seem to you that there are more liberals (and/or liberal posts) or more conservatives (and/or conservative posts) or is it about equal?

Poll to follow.
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I'd say it's about the same. To be honest it feels to me like we have a disproportionate number of libertarians relative to the general population.
 
Well of course the conservatives are going to vote liberal, because anything that doesnt suck the conservative way, is "liberal (school system) (media) (etc)"...
 
haymarket said:
I voted for more conservatives here than liberals.

The one thing I know is absolute fact is that the percentage of people who claim they are libertarians is way way way out of proportion to the American populace. For some reason, right wing libertarians have decided that internet message boards are the battleground for the hearts and minds of the next generation.
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Libertarians are the fastest growing party in America. Causality is important here. Do you think that all these people are being converted to the party or do you think that they already held these views and found a party that shares most of them?

I believe you see a larger representation online because online is the only place where knowledge of the party is really common. I hold the same views (well, most) that I did before I learned about the party. I went online and actually got information instead of jokes from the media and found out my beliefs had a name. I'm guessing I'm far from the only one.
 
Keridan said:
Libertarians are the fastest growing party in America. Causality is important here. Do you think that all these people are being converted to the party or do you think that they already held these views and found a party that shares most of them?

I believe you see a larger representation online because online is the only place where knowledge of the party is really common. I hold the same views (well, most) that I did before I learned about the party. I went online and actually got information instead of jokes from the media and found out my beliefs had a name. I'm guessing I'm far from the only one.
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Results in the last five US presidential elections tell us the opposite story. The label of LIBERTARIAN on the election ballot is like a skull and crossbones on a medicine bottle.

As to why they hang out on message boards - my own theory is that most are rather anti-social, do not work or play well together and do not have the skills or temperament necessary to build a functioning and successful political organization which involves compromise, sacrifice and daily hard work. So instead, they fight silly battles here deluding themselves into believing they can covert some teen aged randroids to their ersatz philosophy.
 
Keridan said:
Libertarians are the fastest growing party in America. Causality is important here. Do you think that all these people are being converted to the party or do you think that they already held these views and found a party that shares most of them?

I believe you see a larger representation online because online is the only place where knowledge of the party is really common. I hold the same views (well, most) that I did before I learned about the party. I went online and actually got information instead of jokes from the media and found out my beliefs had a name. I'm guessing I'm far from the only one.
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Now this is just conjecture, but I would hazard a guess and say that there has got to be some sort of correlation between the online community (meaning people who spend a significant amount of time on the Internet and on message boards, etc.) and the degree of (right) libertarianism.
 
haymarket said:
Results in the last five US presidential elections tell us the opposite story. The label of LIBERTARIAN on the election ballot is like a skull and crossbones on a medicine bottle.

As to why they hang out on message boards - my own theory is that most are rather anti-social, do not work or play well together and do not have the skills or temperament necessary to build a functioning and successful political organization which involves compromise, sacrifice and daily hard work. So instead, they fight silly battles here deluding themselves into believing they can covert some teen aged randroids to their ersatz philosophy.
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While I'm not a libertarian and there are many aspects of right libertarianism that I dislike, I can understand why they believe what they do, many of their beliefs have merit, and many of the most intelligent posters on this board are libertarians. This is just silly, BS conjecture that has as much merit to it as the "parasitic welfare liberal" stereotype.
 
haymarket said:
Results in the last five US presidential elections tell us the opposite story. The label of LIBERTARIAN on the election ballot is like a skull and crossbones on a medicine bottle.
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However, the statistics show they are the fastest growing. Check wiki or the party website or just about anywhere. They don't have to be powerful to be on the rise.

haymarket said:
As to why they hang out on message boards - my own theory is that most are rather anti-social, do not work or play well together and do not have the skills or temperament necessary to build a functioning and successful political organization which involves compromise, sacrifice and daily hard work. So instead, they fight silly battles here deluding themselves into believing they can covert some teen aged randroids to their ersatz philosophy.
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This is a large generalization based on ignorance and prejudice. It might even be projection considering how much time I see you on here screaming partisan views in many "battles".

I know many libertarians who are successful sales people, business persons, and are incredibly popular in social circles. We are not some right wing fringe group. In fact, many of us believe in some social programs and certain left wing ideologies.
 
We don't have an accurate means to find the truth, and a poll won't indicate it, either. :shrug:

We can only guess.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Now this is just conjecture, but I would hazard a guess and say that there has got to be some sort of correlation between the online community (meaning people who spend a significant amount of time on the Internet and on message boards, etc.) and the degree of (right) libertarianism.
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I would be inclined to agree to some point. However, I think part of that is experiences like mine. I have many many liberal and democratic friends. They feel free to spout their beliefs as if they were fact and treat anyone who disagrees as some sort of evil freak. It doesn't matter that my views are not polarized against them or that I agree on many points, but if I disagree with one or even share something interesting I learned that doesn't agree, I have to face a barrage of attacks.

Here, it's part of life and I can speak freely without having it impact my other interactions. It's helped me refine my views and even changed some of them.

Please don't take this as a belief that all liberals or democrats act this way. I'm simply pointing out why I come here for my political discussions. I'm also not sure I qualify as considerably right wing, but I wouldn't fight the description.
 
I think there are more conservatives. For the most part, I count Libertarians as conservatives as social issues aren't too much of an area of dispute on here.
 
ElijahGalt said:
If I'm a conservative, you're a communist.

Conservative is to libertarian as white is to grey. Liberal is to libertarian as black is to grey. In essence, we're a hybrid of both worlds.
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Notice I said "most". I am sure some true libertarians swing both ways, but on this board, most libertarians are just conservatives that don't want the tag. I am not aware of your politics in general, but - again, in reality - notice which party libertarian candidate Ron Paul is running under.
 
whysoserious said:
Notice I said "most". I am sure some true libertarians swing both ways, but on this board, most libertarians are just conservatives that don't want the tag. I am not aware of your politics in general, but - again, in reality - notice which party libertarian candidate Ron Paul is running under.
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Some libertarian views are more extreme than even conservative ones. I was listening to an interview the other day with a libertarian party official from (Florida?) who said each state should have its own monetary system. I wouldn't call them grey. More like pink or something.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Well of course the conservatives are going to vote liberal, because anything that doesnt suck the conservative way, is "liberal (school system) (media) (etc)"...
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Wow, you're not paying any attention to the results are you? Look who's voting to say there are more conservatives.
 
Some guidance, for those stuck in relativism

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