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Your Grade for Obama

Your Grade for Obama

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VanceMack said:
I posted their creed...thats not making up lies its stating facts. guess what happens when Sharia gets used by fundamentalists...
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I wasnt talking about their creed i was talking about these accusations: "reengages the persecution of women, kills gays, and allows terrorist actions against Israel"


As to your basement status and mommy and daddy...why state the obvious. I WAS serious though...mindless ideologues SHOULD go out into the world. You should go to the ME. You should go to...say... Venezuela...or Cuba...or North Korea...LIVE there...really dig and embrace that Socialism thing.
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Ahh yes socialism has so much to do about this subject doesnt it?
And of course its the truth! You know me so well personally!
 
LesGovt said:
Have you never heard of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Dwight David Eisenhower, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Richard Milhouse Nixon, James Earl Carter, Ronald Wilson Reagan, or William Jefferson Clinton?
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Yes. No no one calls Eisenhower "Dwight David". Who the **** calls JFK : John Fitzgerald Kennedy? LBJ i only hear people call him "Lyndon Johonson". Aww yes so many people call Nixon "Richard Milhouse Nixon" right?.
Gahhh im not even going to go in the rest.
 
apdst said:
Obama vowed to support the uprising and continue to be an ally to what has turned into an Islamist government.
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No he didnt. He kept his mouth shut.

Have you noticed that Obama has supported uprisings against pro-American governments and reamined silent about uprisings against anti-American governments?
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:lamo:lamo
He has? APDST i would love to see where you got this info from!
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I wasnt talking about their creed i was talking about these accusations: "reengages the persecution of women, kills gays, and allows terrorist actions against Israel"
Ahh yes socialism has so much to do about this subject doesnt it?
And of course its the truth! You know me so well personally!
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Heres the funny part...for all the bitching and caterwauling about my take on the presidents lack of foreign policy leadership we both game him a c-...
 
VanceMack said:
Heres the funny part...for all the bitching and caterwauling about my take on the presidents lack of foreign policy leadership we both game him a c-...
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Yea so i have stated many many times that i dont think Obama is that great of a pres. I just consider him the lesser of two evils.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Yes. No no one calls Eisenhower "Dwight David". Who the **** calls JFK : John Fitzgerald Kennedy? LBJ i only hear people call him "Lyndon Johonson". Aww yes so many people call Nixon "Richard Milhouse Nixon" right?.
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I would. But I'm an exception.
 
My peronal grade for him is -12.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Yes. No no one calls Eisenhower "Dwight David". Who the **** calls JFK : John Fitzgerald Kennedy? LBJ i only hear people call him "Lyndon Johonson". Aww yes so many people call Nixon "Richard Milhouse Nixon" right?.
Gahhh im not even going to go in the rest.
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Maybe it's that you are too young to remember. All were called as I have said. Obama is no more called Barak Hussein Obama than Bobby Kennedy was called Robert Francis Kennedy.
 
Jryan said:
I give him a B because no matter what anyone says, we don't know how our economy would've been had he not been president.
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See, I told you so. A self-avowed socialist grades Obama with a B. I said that Obama was an extreme leftwing ideologue and it has now been certified.
 
LesGovt said:
See, I told you so. A self-avowed socialist grades Obama with a B. I said that Obama was an extreme leftwing ideologue and it has now been certified.
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:lamo:lamo:lamo I would've given him a C had it not been for the doubt had Palin been elected, I mean McCain.
 
I rank him the same as Bush since they are effectively the same politician.
 
Jryan said:
:lamo:lamo:lamo I would've given him a C had it not been for the doubt had Palin been elected, I mean McCain.
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You're still confirming my point. Thanks.
 
LesGovt said:
You're still confirming my point. Thanks.
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Even if the Socialists had given him an A, that wouldn't confirm your point. Besides, if he was this left wing nut, wouldn't they give him an A?
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Even if the Socialists had given him an A, that wouldn't confirm your point. Besides, if he was this left wing nut, wouldn't they give him an A?
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Not necessarily. There are some people who are even even further to the extreme leftwing than Obama. On a scale of 1 to 10 with ten being an extreme leftwing ideologue, Obama is probably an 11 or 12, but some here are probably 15 to 20.
 
I would have given him a better grade, but I'm still pissed about the new Defense Authorization stuff.
 
LesGovt said:
Maybe it's that you are too young to remember. All were called as I have said. Obama is no more called Barak Hussein Obama than Bobby Kennedy was called Robert Francis Kennedy.
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Ohh yes you are correct.... People called every president by their middle name right?
 
LesGovt said:
You may be correct, but I really don't recall prior to FDR.
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Oh, I should clarify one thing. Harry S Truman was never called by anything other than his initial. That's because S is his middle name.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Even if the Socialists had given him an A, that wouldn't confirm your point. Besides, if he was this left wing nut, wouldn't they give him an A?
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No of course not, the far left feel betrayed by him. He's too centrist for them, and he's too left wing for Conservatives. He may have some of the Independents still but the extraneous actions and obvious misses in his first 3 1/2 years as well as the joke of "HOPE and CHANGE" have many independents wondering if they should just stay home and watch a movie on election night.
 
All around he did nothing to deserve a bad grade, but he did nothing outstanding either. I was hoping that he not get re-elected simply for falling short by so much of what he promised, but at this point I cannot find a candidate from the Republicans that would do a better job. I say B because as stated above he did nothing amazing or great, but he was able to not do anything for people to really disapprove of.
 
LesGovt said:
Oh, I should clarify one thing. Harry S Truman was never called by anything other than his initial. That's because S is his middle name.
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You mean like JFK? :cool:
 
VanceMack said:
yep...its a hard ugly world out there and sometimes you have to decide who you are going to get in bed with. that reality thing is a bitch, isnt it. How much more wonderful a world will it be when the Muslim Brotherhood seizes control, imposes sharia, reengages the persecution of women, kills gays, and allows terrorist actions against Israel? Sometimes you dont have a GREAT choice...you have to make the only wise and AVAILABLE choice.

Ideologues have no business in leadership positions. They ARE however comfortable and perfectly safe living in moms basement and letting the grown-ups take care of
the hard work.
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You do realize that in the context of Egyptian life - pretty much everything you stated was already going on under Mubarak - correct? If anything the Mubarak regime washed out the history of Egypt pre-coup-d'etat and the military regime by extension deemed most of the previous 150 years of Egyptian history as evil fabrications of the West.
 
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