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Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offense?

Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offense?


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Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

By allowing an unlicensed driver to drive his car, the owner is aiding or abetting the offence. Don't lend your car to people not licensed or insured to drive it, and you won't have it towed.
 
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By allowing an unlicensed driver to drive his car, the owner is aiding or abetting the offence. Don't lend your car to people not licensed or insured to drive it, and you won't have it towed.
and if the vehicle was being driven by someone without the owner's permission, then it would be stolen
the owner would want the police to secure it
 
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By allowing an unlicensed driver to drive his car, the owner is aiding or abetting the offence. Don't lend your car to people not licensed or insured to drive it, and you won't have it towed.
Ok so before sending your 16 year old son out to pick up stuff from the store you should take him to the DMV and request a current driving abstract?
 
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Ok so before sending your 16 year old son out to pick up stuff from the store you should take him to the DMV and request a current driving abstract?

a better approach would be to make sure he had both a valid drivers license and the ability to drive the vehicle properly
 
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a better approach would be to make sure he had both a valid drivers license and the ability to drive the vehicle properly
My point was that teenagers often try to hide the fact that they have gotten in trouble from their parents. Here in Illinois, I believe 3 moving violations in a 12 month period can result in a suspension of a driver's license and only the driver gets notified... NOT their parents. Further I can envision a situation where a teenager in this situation may risk driving as opposed to admitting to their parents that their license is in fact suspended. THUS, the only absolute way a parent (or anyone for that matter) can actually KNOW unequivocally that someone is legal to drive is by obtaining a current abstract from the DMV. Sure... its definitely possible to do this each and every time you want to allow someone to borrow your car.... just unreasonable.
 
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But is such a hard arse draconian approach effective and fair ?
As far as "illegals" are concerned, its way past high time that the law makers did something here.

I know it is harsh but we have to set limits. If an illegal is identified during a routine legal matter, such as driving without a license, we should put him/her into the deportation process immediately.
 
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I know it is harsh but we have to set limits. If an illegal is identified during a routine legal matter, such as driving without a license, we should put him/her into the deportation process immediately.
This... regarding illegal immigrants... I agree with completely.

Not intending to go off-topic, but the notion of "sanctuary cities" where police, will not or cannot enforce immigration status, should be federally outlawed.
 
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Is there a way a vehicle owner can "quit claim" a vehicle title and just let them keep it?
Sure, it happens all the time.
 
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How many "driving without a license" citations actually get a jury trial every year? None, that's how many. Either you have a valid driver's license, or you don't. If you don't, you're given a ticket, go before a judge and pay a fine. Or in some cases, mail in the fine without seeing a judge. The car gets towed, and whoever owns the car will have to come to the impound lot to pick it up, and pay the fees. :shrug: Easy peasy.

I don't see why so many people have their shorts in a bunch over this. It's a road safety issue. No license, no drivey, no exceptions.
What happens to the passengers in the vehicle, easy peasy?
 
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Everyone also knows that family men are generally responsible enough to carry their licenses with them.

If there is a safety issue (driver was pulled over on an interstate highway or other highway outside of town, with no way for the driver and passengers to seek shelter and/or contact someone to pick them up, pulled over late at night, etc.) I would allow another licensed driver in the vehicle to drive the car after citing the offending driver.
You'd make a good cop.
 
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My point was that teenagers often try to hide the fact that they have gotten in trouble from their parents. Here in Illinois, I believe 3 moving violations in a 12 month period can result in a suspension of a driver's license and only the driver gets notified... NOT their parents. Further I can envision a situation where a teenager in this situation may risk driving as opposed to admitting to their parents that their license is in fact suspended. THUS, the only absolute way a parent (or anyone for that matter) can actually KNOW unequivocally that someone is legal to drive is by obtaining a current abstract from the DMV. Sure... its definitely possible to do this each and every time you want to allow someone to borrow your car.... just unreasonable.

:shock: Are you serious? That's even more reason for Junior to be caught, and the vehicle towed. Parents need to know why their insurance has dropped them, or their rates have skyrocketed. As a parent myself, my kids were only allowed to drive after they had a valid license. If they had gotten tickets or suspensions they didn't tell me about, I'd have learned anyway when my rates went through the roof, and the kids would have been grounded. If they were driving on a suspended license and my car got towed, I'd learn a heck of a lot quicker and every penny it cost me to pay the impound would come out of THEIR pocket... after which they would hand their suspended license over to me and I'd remove them as a legitimate driver from my insurance. The next time they legally got behind the wheel of a car would be after their 18th birthday, with a fresh DL and a car they paid for by themselves.

Jesus, to whine that poor kids who drive recklessly and get their licenses suspended should be given a break so their parents don't find out is beyond ridiculous; it's bat**** insane. Parents would rather ground their kids than scrape them off the pavement as roadkill. Oh... and NOBODY "borrows" my car unless they are listed as legal drivers on my insurance. If I found out any of my kids let their friends drive my car, I'd burn their DL in front of them and ground them until they were old enough to enlist in the military.
 
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Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offense?

Not necessarily. If (for example) there's a licensed driver available to take the car home, there's no reason to impound it. That's what happens when people get arrested for pretty much anything (unless the cops are looking for an excuse to search the car, but that's a different story). I see your point about this practice encouraging unlicensed drivers to continue to drive unlicensed, but I think the fines and whatnot that tend to go with being cited for driving without a license tend to discourage such behavior. Repeat offenders probably end up doing some jail time.
 
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:shock: Are you serious? That's even more reason for Junior to be caught, and the vehicle towed. Parents need to know why their insurance has dropped them, or their rates have skyrocketed. As a parent myself, my kids were only allowed to drive after they had a valid license. If they had gotten tickets or suspensions they didn't tell me about, I'd have learned anyway when my rates went through the roof, and the kids would have been grounded. If they were driving on a suspended license and my car got towed, I'd learn a heck of a lot quicker and every penny it cost me to pay the impound would come out of THEIR pocket... after which they would hand their suspended license over to me and I'd remove them as a legitimate driver from my insurance. The next time they legally got behind the wheel of a car would be after their 18th birthday, with a fresh DL and a car they paid for by themselves.

Jesus, to whine that poor kids who drive recklessly and get their licenses suspended should be given a break so their parents don't find out is beyond ridiculous; it's bat**** insane. Parents would rather ground their kids than scrape them off the pavement as roadkill. Oh... and NOBODY "borrows" my car unless they are listed as legal drivers on my insurance. If I found out any of my kids let their friends drive my car, I'd burn their DL in front of them and ground them until they were old enough to enlist in the military.

You obviously either didn't read or didn't understand what I wrote.... it says absolutely nothing about you are ranting about.... here it is in summation:
1. Children are sometimes dishonest.
2. The state is under no obligation to report the child's DL status to the parent upon suspension.
2. The only way to absolutely ensure that your child's DL is valid is via DMV abstract.
3. Other family members should not be denied their means of transportation to and from work, means of grocery retrieval, etc... because of the irresponsible actions of a dishonest kid.

I seriously have no idea how you read any of what you are ranting about in what I wrote.

Where did I say "junior" shouldn't be caught?
Where did I say parents didn't need to know?
Yes your insurance rates would go up but I guarantee there is some time interval between "junior's" suspension and the rate hike thus there would be some time interval where a parent might not know.
A lot of families, at least here in Chicago, have "family" vehicles because that is all they can afford and the additional cost of freeing the vehicle from impound could potentially impact housing and/or food for the rest of the family.
No where did I suggest that they be given a break... only that the other family members should not be impacted as a result of their immaturity.

In essence the punishment for driving without a license should not include arbitrarily punishing other members of the same family who do in fact use the vehicle in a legal and responsible manner... i.e. mandatory seizure of said vehicle

I seriously am dumbfounded as how you could have possibly read any of that stuff you were going on about in what I posted.
 
Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

This is just another racket in small towns.
 
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What happens to the passengers in the vehicle, easy peasy?

The passengers quickly learn that their driver is an asshole who put their lives at risk by driving while uninsured.They also learn the healthful excitement of a jog home.
 
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How is due process being denied?
For example, California Constitution Article 1 Section 7(a) says, a personal may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of the law…
So, an officer on the side of the road is due process of the law?
 
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Cars don't get due process. People without licenses cannot legally drive. Cars cannot be left on the side of the road. Do the math.
Individuals get due process when it comes to their property (car).
 
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We are talking due process. Illegal driver is arrested and car taken away. The court decides if she/he is guilty of driving without a license. If guilty, idiot driver pays substantial fees or losses car if illegal driver was also the proud owner of a DUI. Driving is a priviledge and not a right ....abuse the priviledge and you will get your arse kicked.
An officer on the side of the road is not due process…due process must happen before property is taken.
I disagree…driving/traveling is my right. I have the right to travel all public highways. US Court decisions confirm this.
 
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For example, California Constitution Article 1 Section 7(a) says, a personal may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of the law…
So, an officer on the side of the road is due process of the law?


explain for us how due process has been denied
 
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An officer on the side of the road is not due process…due process must happen before property is taken.
I disagree…driving/traveling is my right. I have the right to travel all public highways. US Court decisions confirm this.


please cite the court decisions which have given us the right to drive
 
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please cite the court decisions which have given us the right to drive
Where did he claim that we have a right to "drive"? All I see is a claim to a right to "travel"... I myself do not know the court cases he is referring to however this link discusses the idea of the right to travel and includes some case references which have been used to support the claim that U.S. Citizens have a general "Right to Travel".

EDIT: Some specific judicial opinions:

"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.

"Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." Schactman v. Dulles, 96 App DC 287, 293.
 
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Where did he claim that we have a right to "drive"? All I see is a claim to a right to "travel"... I myself do not know the court cases he is referring to however this link discusses the idea of the right to travel and includes some case references which have been used to support the claim that U.S. Citizens have a general "Right to Travel".

EDIT: Some specific judicial opinions:

"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.

"Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." Schactman v. Dulles, 96 App DC 287, 293.
i will emphasize it for you
An officer on the side of the road is not due process…due process must happen before property is taken.
I disagree…driving/traveling is my right. I have the right to travel all public highways. US Court decisions confirm this.
 
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i will emphasize it for you
Ohh,,,, mea culpa... yes you are correct.... I missed that at first glance... serves me right for skimming.

I still stand by his assertion of an implicit right to travel...... but NOT a right to drive.. I stand corrected sir, my most sincere of apologies.
 
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Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offense?

Yes,but only if they can not find licensed driver to drive the vehicle home.
Yes,regardless if they can find a licensed driver to drive the vehicle home.
No
other

I say yes regardless if they can find a licensed driver to drive the car home.They are driving without license,they should have their car towed when pulled over for a traffic offense.Just letting some other guy tow the car will just mean the individual will go back to driving unlicensed.

yes the car should be impounded if that car belongs to that driver, plain and simple
 
Re: Should unlicensed drivers have their vehicles towed when pulled over for an offen

Yes. They do this in England and in many cases Australia and New Zealand. It is a GREAT idea.
 
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