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President can't do math. Intentional?

Is Obama incompetent or lying?

  • Incompetent. He can't do math, or he is just relying on the CNBC report.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Intentional. Obama is lying and hoping no one notices he is off by $834.

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • No, my math is wrong and you are going to prove it.

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • Total voters
    6
Redress said:
And yet he was still talking about the savings per year. Sorry you cannot see that, but your desire to criticize is overriding your sense to understand.
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It's not savings per year. I'm sorry you can't see that. How about this, come work for me. I'll pay you $5,000 a month for the first two months and nothing after that. That's $60,000 a year, not bad right? Do we have a deal? Seriously.
 
misterman said:
But SS isn't like a 401k at all. It's not savings. It's more like insurance.
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That a new one. SS is an insurance policy..........you are kidding, aren't you?
 
Redress said:
And yet he was still talking about the savings per year. Sorry you cannot see that, but your desire to criticize is overriding your sense to understand.
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Actually, lets be honest. This isn't a tax cut since we are currently at the 4.2% rate. So if you really think it's legitimate to talk about the whole year, then lets really be honest. Obama just raised the average American's taxes by $840 a year by not extending the tax rate for March through December.
 
EarlzP said:
Look you may want to sweep the Bush legacy away like dog s--t but the effects of his poor leadership will be around for years to come and I am going to remind you of it every chance I get. I don't buy the BS talking points the republican far right is trying to sell.
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How about you limiting your comments to me based on what I write and not the voices you hear in your head.

FWIW - Bush spent way too much money when his deficits were in the $300 billion range, BO is spending 4X that amount........if Bush sucked, BO is uber sucky. Remember that when you are whining about Bush.
 
conservativeguy said:
That a new one. SS is an insurance policy..........you are kidding, aren't you?
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hmmm... it may be pretty accurate:

The similarities: You pay in less than what you hope to receive. There's a chance that you'll never actually get anything out of it. The provider pays for claims via new contributions to the plan

The differences: 1) the new contributions have, throughout time, exceeded the payouts with insurance companies making the system SOLVENT and sustainable. 2) It's optional.
 
friday said:
LOL, I'm not the one promising families that $160 will turn into $1,000. Who's slick?
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The only people you can BS are the 57% of the registered republican voters who thought President Obama was not born in the USA, okay you are not slick you just have a reading or hearing problem
 
EarlzP said:
The only people you can BS are the 57% of the registered republican voters who thought President Obama was not born in the USA, okay you are not slick you just have a reading or hearing problem
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Earlz, I have a deal for you. Come work for me and I will pay you $5,000 a month for the first two months and then you can work for me for free after that. That's $60,000 a year, not bad, right?
 
EarlzP said:
The only people you can BS are the 57% of the registered republican voters who thought President Obama was not born in the USA, okay you are not slick you just have a reading or hearing problem
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Even better, how about next week I go into the office and tell all my employees that I am only going to pay them in January and February next year. Hey, they won't be making any less, right?
 
conservativeguy said:
How about you limiting your comments to me based on what I write and not the voices you hear in your head.
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As much as some of you conservatives are trying to turn America into China we still have the right to make comments, as long as this remains America under no circumstance would you or any of your right wing conservative buddies ever be able to silence me, try to remember this is America, try to remeber not all Americans will be gullible enough to be manipulated like the 57% that believe/believed that President Obama was not born in America
 
friday said:
Even better, how about next week I go into the office and tell all my employees that I am only going to pay them in January and February next year. Hey, they won't be making any less, right?
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This is the way I look at it if the conservatives could convince 57% of the registered republican voters that President Obama was not born in the USA and all of your employees are among that 57% they will believe any thing you tell them
 
EarlzP said:
This is the way I look at it if the conservatives could convince 57% of the registered republican voters that President Obama was not born in the USA and all of your employees are among that 57% they will believe any thing you tell them
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That's ok. At least I finally think you understand the point I was trying to make. You don't have to admit it. That can be our little secret.
 
Obama wants to enact a 3% decrease for the entire year of 2012, so that would be a savings of $1,500 year for someone making $50,000. Obama just signed a two month extension at 2%, which would be around $167 savings for those two months. However, early next year a joint panel from the House and the Senate will negotiate an extension for the rest of 2012.

Obama can do math. However, what happened is that he signed a temporary extension and not the full implementation of his plan. The battle to cut taxes for millions of working class Americans will continue early next year.
 
friday said:
After Congress caved in to Harry Reid changing the payroll tax extension from a full year to two months, Barack Obama parroted a math error first reported on CNBC.com that this payroll tax extension would save the average American family $1,000. That is wrong. The Republican bill would have saved the average family $1,000, but the Reid bill they passed will only save the average family $166.

Obama said this on his facebook page:
[h=6]President Obama congratulates members of Congress for reaching an agreement to extend the payroll tax cut: "Because of this agreement, every working American will keep his or her tax cut—about $1,000 for the average family."[/h]In order for the average family to save $1,000, the average family would have to be making $25,000 a month. I don't make that kind of money. Maybe Obama does.

So here is the question. They are taking credit for the results of the Republican bill, even though they shot it down and passed the much more anemic Democrat bill. Incompetence or intentionality?
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Um, the two bills are very different in other ways other than the time of the extension of the payroll tax cut. THAT is what is unacceptable to President Obama and the Democrats. This fight is not over by a long shot - it's been kicked down the road as they say.
 
EarlzP said:
As much as some of you conservatives are trying to turn America into China we still have the right to make comments, as long as this remains America under no circumstance would you or any of your right wing conservative buddies ever be able to silence me, try to remember this is America, try to remeber not all Americans will be gullible enough to be manipulated like the 57% that believe/believed that President Obama was not born in America
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What a load......who is questioning your rights, trying to silence you, manipulating your perspective? Good grief. I'll tell you what, when you successfully read my mind, I will let you know. Until then, I will rebuke you everytime you make wild ass assumptions regarding my views.
 
friday said:
It is NOT $1,000 a year for the average family any more than the Making Work Pay one time credit of $800 was $292,000 a year. The average family does not make $50,000 every two months. If he wanted to be able to announce that it would save the average American family $1,000 a year, he should have passed the Boehner extension that lasted a year.
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WOW, I didn’t know there was a Boehner extension of the payroll tax relief extension that lasted a year. I guess you are correct. Why the heck didn’t he sign that one? Can someone explain that to me or is somebody lying again?
 
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friday said:
That's ok. At least I finally think you understand the point I was trying to make. You don't have to admit it. That can be our little secret.
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What point? I understand you perfectly you are out to smear the President, the truth has no place in your agenda. I have no secrets some in the republican party have an agenda one that is to undermine the President and continue your relentless assault on the middle class and poor of America
 
conservativeguy said:
What a load......who is questioning your rights, trying to silence you, manipulating your perspective? Good grief. I'll tell you what, when you successfully read my mind, I will let you know. Until then, I will rebuke you everytime you make wild ass assumptions regarding my views.
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Was this you in this quote?
Originally Posted by conservativeguy

How about you limiting your comments to me based on what I write and not the voices you hear in your head.
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I don't have to be mind reader to see what is on your mind and again I do not have to wait on you to tell what is obvious any more then I have to limit my comments to what you would like to hear
 
Leave it to cons to take a TAX CUT and turn it into something to attack Obama over. "His math is off, he's trying to mislead us..." Who cares? Are your taxes lower?

I thought you guys liked less taxes, but maybe that's only when the President is a Republican.
 
Tucker Case said:
What do you call it?
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technically, it's an extension of an already existing tax break.

samey same to me though.

although it has limited or no stimulus effect, adds to the deficit, and places SS and medicare in an even more precarious fiscal position.. i'm supportive of it... as i'm generally supportive of allowing people to keep more of their hard earned money.

as a political issue, i'm entertained by it... I like watching Dems and Reps flip flop all over the place on tax cuts.
 
rocket88 said:
Leave it to cons to take a TAX CUT and turn it into something to attack Obama over. "His math is off, he's trying to mislead us..." Who cares? Are your taxes lower?

I thought you guys liked less taxes, but maybe that's only when the President is a Republican.
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yeah, the flip flops are amusing... Reps are now opposing a tax cut and Dems are supporting one... amusing as all hell to me.
 
Thrilla said:
technically, it's an extension of an already existing tax break.
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This is my understanding of it as well. Regardless of when it was passed initially, it is a tax cut, and Obama is supporting it.

But for some reason that is utterly incomprehensible to me, conservativeguy thinks calling it a tax cut is hilarious. I'm really interested in finding out what he calls it.

I've got my money on "glooberdeglouchenspizerwilly" myself.


as a political issue, i'm entertained by it... I like watching Dems and Reps flip flop all over the place on tax cuts.
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If I was just looking at the Dems and Reps, I'd be mightily entertained as well.

But unfortunately we have non-politicians doing the same flopping routine right along with these jokers. This is why I need to stop putting away my cynical nature around the holidays.
 
Thrilla said:
yeah, the flip flops are amusing... Reps are now opposing a tax cut and Dems are supporting one... amusing as all hell to me.
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This has been true all along though. Democrats support shifting the tax burden away from the middle class and more on the rich. The Republicans the opposite. This incident just exposed the Republicans' true nature.
 
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