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Was the War in Iraq worth it?

Was the War in Iraq worth it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 21 19.6%
  • No

    Votes: 86 80.4%

  • Total voters
    107
As if freedom could possibly not be worth it. We didnt "break anything"; that place was dark ages. If there's anything to "fix", then I suppose we would have to install a genocidal dictator and ancient laws against women. Then again, when people support and promote physically abusing women (and even blame women for it)... then I suppose they do think that losing things like State-sanctioned FGM, Honor Killings, rape and other such niceties is "breaking something" that needs "fixing". Really, how someone can take that statement and apply it broadly to Iraq is just beyond me.

To add to the other response. over 100k lives is certainly breaking something. It is one thing is a people choose that fight and that cost. It is another to impose it on them, and then have the arrogance to tell them what was and what wasn't worth what.
 
What if...? said:
The idea that the "world" agreed on the "intel" is ridiculous.

Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
Most of the world knew that Saddam's WMD claims were bogus and this lead to the counties that make up the UN not sanctioning the invasion.


What if ... said it perfectly. That there was some agreed upon intel that "Most of the world knew" is ridiculous.
 
Too soon to tell for me.
I think we are going to need some time to see what happens next. If Iraq becomes a stable bulwark against Iranian hegemony in the region then yes, it was worth it. If it suffers from a transition into an Islamic fundamentalist theocracy then probably not.

Declaring victory and running away has become a common trait in the American political system. That will make our next challenge all the harder.
 
Only if we were unwilling to adapt. We have HUGE oil reserves. Canada has HUGE oil reserves. We have the biggest natural gas reserves in the world and could easily adapt . . .
We clearly are unwilling to adapt. The one term Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama continues to run an illegal moratorium on oil drilling. We have not opened ANWR nor the rest of the continental US to exploration and drilling. His regime is dragging its feet to prevent a Canadian pipeline from being built here. Politically we have prevented nuclear energy instead of embracing it.

What evidence do you see that we could for would have adapted?
 
Oh my god... what a ****ing waste this is turning into. I will just slam you this one last time and leave you to your folly.

B-52's carry troops.
The "B" indicates bomber. The B-52 is not now nor has it ever carried troops.
 
I guess you have a problem with the English language. Well, I like winning, it is in my competitive nature. The problem is that I don't take beating and slamming pre-schoolers as much of a victory. I actually feel kinda bad once I realize how one sided the sport is. Anyways...
You really don't know that you are wrong, do you?
 
What if ... said it perfectly. That there was some agreed upon intel that "Most of the world knew" is ridiculous.

Actually, most of the UN countries that did not want to invade had economic interests in Saddam's Iraq. Specifically, France and Russia.
 
LOL!

Then what is the purpose of a F-117? Is it a "fighter" type aircraft?

Sorry. I couldn't help myself.

LOL. Sometimes the Air Force doesn't quite get it right. I don't know that they have a good designation for such things. Or maybe the "F" was part of the deception.

Now are you telling me that you believe the B-52 is a troop carrier?
Do you think the "B" means Bus?
 
LOL. Sometimes the Air Force doesn't quite get it right. I don't know that they have a good designation for such things. Or maybe the "F" was part of the deception.

Now are you telling me that you believe the B-52 is a troop carrier?
Do you think the "B" means Bus?

LOL!

No, not at all. I love those BUFFs.
 
Actually, most of the UN countries that did not want to invade had economic interests in Saddam's Iraq. Specifically, France and Russia.

And rightly so... Europe as a whole doesn't want to invade anything.

I was specifically talking though, about the run up to the invasion and the ridiculous statement by FD which intimated most everyone knew Iraq didn't have WMD's and that (at the time) was just not the case. We know that WMD's of the type identified were NOT there and Hussien was bluffing to his own military and the rest of the world - and did so quite well.
 
Actually, most of the UN countries that did not want to invade had economic interests in Saddam's Iraq. Specifically, France and Russia.
A good number who joined us had economic interests in doing so. Your point?
 
Yeah, 60+ years...we're still in Germany and Japan.

What international body has deemed the war illegal? Has the UN pursued action against the US? Has Iraq sued in international court?

You mistake lack of action as being proof of innocence. Such is not the case.
 
All of you need to knock off this UN crap. The UN is both a fatally flawed organization and totally irrelevant. Why we are still a member is a great unknown. I guess it falls under the title of "habit".
 
All of you need to knock off this UN crap. The UN is both a fatally flawed organization and totally irrelevant. Why we are still a member is a great unknown. I guess it falls under the title of "habit".

That is your opinion, and it is noted, but the UN is the members that make up the UN. We joined and signed for a reason. Breaking our word says something about us.
 
Yes, the Vietnamese people know that oh, so well.

We did add to their deaths, largely responsible for them by insisting that France not grant them independence, and then using a lie to go in and fight a needless and useless war. Yes.
 
We did add to their deaths, largely responsible for them by insisting that France not grant them independence, and then using a lie to go in and fight a needless and useless war. Yes.

That and the Democrats stabbing then in the back in 1973 which lead directly to their invasion from the North and hundreds of thousands of deaths....the Democrats are still laughing at those deaths.
 
That and the Democrats stabbing then in the back in 1973 which lead directly to their invasion from the North and hundreds of thousands of deaths....the Democrats are still laughing at those deaths.

re writing history again I see. Democraies will never do this type of nonsense wars long. Understand this and stop doing them. Being insane is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If you cared at all about those lives, you don't start war to begin with.
 
re writing history again I see. Democraies will never do this type of nonsense wars long. Understand this and stop doing them. Being insane is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If you cared at all about those lives, you don't start war to begin with.

The USA could have, by the use of our Naval and Air forces only, defeated the invasion of the south by the North in 1975 but because of a Democrat sponcered and passed law, the South was left to be killed. Why any nation would ever belivewhat he USA said to them is beyound my comrehension.
 
The USA could have, by the use of our Naval and Air forces only, defeated the invasion of the south by the North in 1975 but because of a Democrat sponcered and passed law, the South was left to be killed. Why any nation would ever belivewhat he USA said to them is beyound my comrehension.

Again, such was never likely or as complete as you think. We beat the crap out of the north, and still they fought. There was no win that would be acceptable and still be seen as a good people. Remember, we had no business there in the first place.
 
Again, such was never likely or as complete as you think. We beat the crap out of the north, and still they fought. There was no win that would be acceptable and still be seen as a good people. Remember, we had no business there in the first place.

Well we have the example of South Korea and the example of South Vietnam. Which do you think the survivors of the killing fields of South Vietnam and the boat people would rather have had. Liberals are suppose to be for the saving of human life (except the unborn that is) then you laugh at the hundreds of thousands killed in South Vietnam due to the treachery of the Democrats. Sad. I would you would feel shame but Liberals have not shame, or honor.

Soon you will get the opportunity to laugh again as tens of thousands of Iraqis are killed.
 
Well we have the example of South Korea and the example of South Vietnam. Which do you think the survivors of the killing fields of South Vietnam and the boat people would rather have had. Liberals are suppose to be for the saving of human life (except the unborn that is) then you laugh at the hundreds of thousands killed in South Vietnam due to the treachery of the Democrats. Sad. I would you would feel shame but Liberals have not shame, or honor.

Soon you will get the opportunity to laugh again as tens of thousands of Iraqis are killed.

They would have rather not had the war or the killing to begin with I suspect. Remember, there would have been no killing without the war.

No one I know of laughs at people dying.
 
They would have rather not had the war or the killing to begin with I suspect. Remember, there would have been no killing without the war.

No one I know of laughs at people dying.

One does not need a war to kill people. I give you Stalin, Mao and Ho. There are others mostly left wing communists/socialists.

Every Democrat I know is still laughing at the fact that the USA pulled out of Vietnam and left the South to die. You just won't admit it, even to yourself. That doesn't mean it is not true.
 
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