misterman
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Well, the first can be discussed within the parameters of the law as it pertains to a person. You can't murder a flew or a corpse.
And, as always, it turns on when a person becomes a person...
The second, as far as I can tell, is NOT the usual view of pro-lifers... just the more extreme ones.
Really? How do you get that? If most pro-lifers don't think abortion is murder, what do they base their opposition to abortion on, in your view?