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Photo ID to vote?

Photo ID to vote?


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Whoever pays today, for ID's to be created at the DMV, would pay just as they always have. You're question is a non-question...

What if someone can't afford an ID card? What if they don't have a birth certificate?:roll:
 
What if someone can't afford an ID card? What if they don't have a birth certificate?:roll:

Comon dude you know better than that! Of course there will be tax payer funded financial aid for those who cannot pay. This is the country of the never ending welfare programs!
 
A study by the experts show there could be as many as 5 million voters that could be disenfranchised by this law, if the burden is not borne by the government.

Five million out of 300 is only <2% of the population. Even that sounds pretty high, but I don't see where that would be a problem.

When you factor in the number of people who actually vote, that number is likely to drop below 1% of the population. That shouldn't be a huge problem.
 
Five million out of 300 is only <2% of the population. Even that sounds pretty high, but I don't see where that would be a problem.

When you factor in the number of people who actually vote, that number is likely to drop below 1% of the population. That shouldn't be a huge problem.

So you are okay with stripping others of their rights as long as it entitles you to yours?
 
Seriously, who doesn't have a birth certificate?

My old friend didn't because his mom/dad were losers and he ran away when he was 16... Hey, he is a person and has a right to vote... US Natural born baby...
 
My old friend didn't because his mom/dad were losers and he ran away when he was 16... Hey, he is a person and has a right to vote... US Natural born baby...

Wrong, he still has a birth certificate.... he just doesn't have a valid copy of one on his person. There's a difference between not being issued one, and not having one. If he wanted, he goes to the town or city in which he was born and gets a copy of it.
 
Wrong, he still has a birth certificate.... he just doesn't have a valid copy of one on his person. There's a difference between not being issued one, and not having one. If he wanted, he goes to the town or city in which he was born and gets a copy of it.

Without elaborating to much, his mom (a druggie) put a different name on his birth certificate than on the one she put on social security. Trust me, he was ****ed...
 
Without elaborating to much, his mom (a druggie) put a different name on his birth certificate than on the one she put on social security. Trust me, he was ****ed...

It may take a while, but he should be able to straighten out that bureaucratic snafu, and needs to do so before the difference in names causes problems with the IRS, before he tries to go into the service, or do a whole lot of other things.


Since it is possible to legally change one's name, that one shouldn't be a huge problem for him.
 
It may take a while, but he should be able to straighten out that bureaucratic snafu, and needs to do so before the difference in names causes problems with the IRS, before he tries to go into the service, or do a whole lot of other things.


Since it is possible to legally change one's name, that one shouldn't be a huge problem for him.

It was because he technically wasn't a US Citizen. It took him 3 years of going through a bureaucratic maze and thousands of dollars to get that bull**** straightened out. I know this because I drove him around while he got it done. Lol, I remember him calling a lawyer and he basically said, "I don't know what to tell ya'." (She also put a different name on the Certification of Report of Birth)
 
Without elaborating to much, his mom (a druggie) put a different name on his birth certificate than on the one she put on social security. Trust me, he was ****ed...

Irrelevant - his name is what is on the birth certificate unless he legally changes it. It's not that difficult to correct - however back to the issue, you just admitted he does have a birth certificate yet two posts back you claimed he didn't. So why lie in this exchange?


Dittohead not! said:
Seriously, who doesn't have a birth certificate?

Jryan said:
My old friend didn't because his mom/dad were losers and he ran away when he was 16... Hey, he is a person and has a right to vote... US Natural born baby...


WTF ??? Don't make stuff up just so you have something to argue about. :censored
 
Irrelevant - his name is what is on the birth certificate unless he legally changes it. It's not that difficult to correct - however back to the issue, you just admitted he does have a birth certificate yet two posts back you claimed he didn't. So why lie in this exchange?







WTF ??? Don't make stuff up just so you have something to argue about. :censored

Oh great, call me a liar...

So because I can't recount a story off the top of my head perfectly, I am suddenly a liar and a cheat?
 
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Oh great, call me a liar...

Well you just did... it's right there in black and white. First he didn't have a birth certificate and then you say he does have one.... what do you call it?
 
Well you just did... it's right there in black and white. First he didn't have a birth certificate and then you say he does have one.... what do you call it?

It doesn't matter, the point is he couldn't get a ID card without jumping through miles of hoops... Seriously, grow up...
 
It doesn't matter, the point is he couldn't get a ID card without jumping through miles of hoops... Seriously, grow up...

You're point isn't a point - he can EASILY get an ID card as I've already stated. What part of that is eluding you?


Here's a tip: When you don't know much about a subject, don't make like you do and don't make up BS and then contradict yourself immediately after. It makes people think you're full of ****.
 
It doesn't matter, the point is he couldn't get a ID card without jumping through miles of hoops... Seriously, grow up...

OK, I'm sure there will be one or two here and there who have an unusual sort of problem. As for the guy in the example, if he is "technically not a citizen", then he is "technically ineligible to vote" anyway, unless he can confirm a US birth.
 
OK, I'm sure there will be one or two here and there who have an unusual sort of problem. As for the guy in the example, if he is "technically not a citizen", then he is "technically ineligible to vote" anyway, unless he can confirm a US birth.

Ah, I guess you are right that he couldn't vote. I guess my hole point is that their would be people who could vote that don't have ID cards. ID cards still cost the person money to get them. Voting is supposed to be free.
 
You're point isn't a point - he can EASILY get an ID card as I've already stated. What part of that is eluding you?


Here's a tip: When you don't know much about a subject, don't make like you do and don't make up BS and then contradict yourself immediately after. It makes people think you're full of ****.

Here's a tip: Don't call people liars in a debate unless you have a fact to prove them wrong. Where is your proof that my friend couldn't get his ID due to him having conflicts with his birth certificate?

You must be singing:
 
Here's a tip: Don't call people liars in a debate unless you have a fact to prove them wrong.
Which you proved you lied all on your own. Good tip. I already followed it.

Where is your proof that my friend couldn't get his ID due to him having conflicts with his birth certificate?
You're lie was that he didn't have a birth certificate, then you admitted he did have a birth certificate. You're laughable attempt at diverting your lie to something else is well... weak. Be a man, say you made a mistake, move on.
 
Which you proved you lied all on your own. Good tip. I already followed it.

You're lie was that he didn't have a birth certificate, then you admitted he did have a birth certificate. You're laughable attempt at diverting your lie to something else is well... weak. Be a man, say you made a mistake, move on.

I never lied, for me to of lied I would have had to have said, "He didn't have a birth certificate." Unfortunately for you, I went back and changed my statement therefore coming out with the truth.
 
I never lied, for me to of lied I would have had to have said, "He didn't have a birth certificate." Unfortunately for you, I went back and changed my statement therefore coming out with the truth.



Dittohead not! said:
Seriously, who doesn't have a birth certificate?

Jryan said:
My old friend didn't because his mom/dad were losers and he ran away when he was 16... Hey, he is a person and has a right to vote... US Natural born baby...

and then you said...


Jryan said:
Without elaborating to much, his mom (a druggie) put a different name on his birth certificate than on the one she put on social security. Trust me, he was ****ed...


Huh...

How could his mom put a different name on his birth certificate, if he didn't have a birth certificate? Please... go ahead and deny it again...


:lamo
 
and then you said...





Huh...

How could his mom put a different name on his birth certificate, if he didn't have a birth certificate? Please... go ahead and deny it again...


:lamo
lie
Noun:
An intentionally false statement.

Get a life...
 
lie
Noun:
An intentionally false statement.

Get a life...

So you're saying you made it up unintentionally... maybe making this up just comes to you second nature eh?
 
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