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Is the OWS against Capitalism?

Is the OWS Movement against Capitalism?


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I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.
 
I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.

OWS is a pretty diverse group of people. Some of the die-hards are, in fact, anti-capitalism. Quite a few OWS protestors have different (and less blatantly impossible) goals (e.g. fixing loopholes in corporate taxation, better regulation of the market/banking/etc).
 
While you can't generalize, I think a lot are pro-socialism, they want ti be given what others have earned. So yes, for many among the OWS.
 
I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.

I think that they are pro-capitalism and anti-Corporatism. Corporatism or as Mussolini stated is better known as Fascism. It is the Corporate driver that can initiate wars for resources and profit that resides here. Wars for Big Energy and the status quo of big money. The people who profit from war, ergo are constantly ginning up wars. That'd be Corporations here in the USA. I mean, it's about profit, black and white numbers, the bottom line, and by Corporate personhood that does not live and breathe, so don't worry about the pollution either.
 
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my guess is that they're not against the ladder. they're against removing rungs from it, though.
 
They are not against capitalism. The main reason it started was to protest against big business in politics.
 
I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.

I'm sure some of them are, especially some of the more extreme communist and anarchist types. But I don't know if that's characteristic of the movement as a whole.
 
Unregulated capitalism, yes. Regulated capitalism, no.

OWS, in my opinion, seems to promote a mixture of regulated capitalism and socialism. They seem to think that corporations should not have influence in public policy and that they should follow regulation in order to prevent economic disasters like the one we have been experiencing. Welfare is a socialist policy, but OWS doesn't seem to want to eliminate all corporations and free trade.
 
Some are, some aren't.
 
Some absolutely are against capitalism. Some aren't. My take would be that the movement as a whole isn't "anti-capitalism" but rather pro-regulation. I think its rather neutral about capitalism...IE its not really supporting it, its not really against it, its not its focus. Its more about regulation and wealth redistribution which is not incapatable with Capitalism in and of itself (if it was, then we aren't capitalistic in this country currently). There's likely individuals in there that have anti-capitalistic views, just like there are tea parties with heavily social views, but that doesn't mean that the movement itself as a whole represents that view.
 
Most of them have no idea what they are protesting, they are just protesting to protest. They missed the sixties and think this is how things were done.
 
I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.

Parts of it surely are, not everyone within it though. OWS isn't a solidified ideology and philosophy. It's a broad tent, order of magnitude display.
 
Does the OWS movement have an official spokesman ?
Do they have any manifesto ?
At least, Adolf Hitler was kind enough to write a book....had this only been read by those in power...
These are things I do not know.
I do know that we have many problems, and that these have been festering for a long time.
I ,for one, think that a man should work for a living - today we do have some who actually disagree - showing up, then doing nothing of value is good enough for them....
 
Most of them have no idea what they are protesting, they are just protesting to protest. They missed the sixties and think this is how things were done.

Actually I think a lot of partisan hacks have no idea what they are protesting. They don't want to know either. They perceive the movement as leftist and thus launch into attacks without even trying to figure out what the complaint is or if there's any validity to it.
 
While you can't generalize, I think a lot are pro-socialism, they want ti be given what others have earned. So yes, for many among the OWS.
Rather than making this statement, why not find out exactly what their agenda is ????
Good luck on that one...
Has any WSO ever been intelligently and fairly interviewed ???
Or is this (as I suspect) an impossibility with todays media.
 
Actually I think a lot of partisan hacks have no idea what they are protesting. They don't want to know either. They perceive the movement as leftist and thus launch into attacks without even trying to figure out what the complaint is or if there's any validity to it.

It would help if the OWS made their goals unified and known. It is primarily their own fault since at the beginning they did not make their ideas known.
 
I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not?....

there are tens of thousands of OWS supporters around this country, maybe more.

around 30% of the USA supports them, which is around 99 million people.

OWS has no official stances on politics. They are against mass-inequality, excessive corporate greed, vast disparities in wealth between the Middle-class & wealthy, and against the influence money has on politics.

Now, are some OWSers against Capitalism outright and seek to to impose Socialism? sure.

are there there also OWSers who simply want to reform, evolve, and amend our current system to be more fair & more equal? yep.
 
I have heard that the OWS is not against capitalism at all, though I have seen many OWS groups and signs that indicate they are indeed against capitalism. What is the truth? Are they against capitalism or not? I wuld reason that during their earlier days they came to protest against businesses and corporations, which are all a part of capitalism. What do you think about this? I see OWS members on YouTube chanting against the crimes of capitalism while holding their signs that reflect their belief.

If you are referring to the useful idiots in the parks...who knows and who cares?

If you are referring to those who started this whole shebang...of course they are.
 
It would help if the OWS made their goals unified and known. It is primarily their own fault since at the beginning they did not make their ideas known.

I think their ideals were quite clear from the start. One just had to pay attention, not sit around calling them vermin or dirty hippies or spoiled kids or whatever else people wanted to throw out there so that they wouldn't have to think about it too hard.
 
Personally, I believe most OWSers would be MORE than satisfied if we simply brought back Glass-Steagall, had more tax-brackets for the wealthy, millionaires, 7 billioniaires, had more regulations on banks & the mortgage industry, had a national health care system, had govt. funded college education to public colleges, had publicly financed elections and stripped corporations of personhood rights.
 
my guess is that they're not against the ladder. they're against removing rungs from it, though.

Only the government can remove the rungs. Without government support via more regulations, private companies can't effect how a peson moves up the ladder of success.
 
Personally, I believe most OWSers would be MORE than satisfied if we simply brought back Glass-Steagall, had more tax-brackets for the wealthy, millionaires, 7 billioniaires, had more regulations on banks & the mortgage industry, had a national health care system, had govt. funded college education to public colleges, had publicly financed elections and stripped corporations of personhood rights.

They'll never be satisfied, until all American corporations have been nationalized.
 
OWS is a pretty diverse group of people. Some of the die-hards are, in fact, anti-capitalism. Quite a few OWS protestors have different (and less blatantly impossible) goals (e.g. fixing loopholes in corporate taxation, better regulation of the market/banking/etc).[/QUOTE
Rules and regluations.... we need a huge improvement here...a shame the conservatives are so against this....IMO, they are also against the American people....the middle class, but not the 1%, the super wealthy.
 
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