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Is This Ad Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

Is this add accurate, dishonest, or does it cross the line?

  • The add is accurate and does not distort Obama's words

    Votes: 2 4.8%

  • The add is dishonest

    Votes: 22 52.4%

  • The add is dishonest and crosses a line beyond the standard political add distortions

    Votes: 16 38.1%

  • Other, do not know

    Votes: 2 4.8%
  • Total voters
    42
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

What is both revealing and sadly pathetic about this thread is the progression - (or would that be the opposite?) of partisan opinion from the right as it picks up steam. Right off the bat some honest conservatives condemned the ad as it should be condemned. Then the GOP excuse makers started their work on the net and in the right wing media and suddenly those lame excuses why Romney was not so bad came pouring into this thread like a bad case of the runs after too many cheap burritos.

And that will continue unabated for 12 months.
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

haymarket said:
What is both revealing and sadly pathetic about this thread is the progression - (or would that be the opposite?) of partisan opinion from the right as it picks up steam. Right off the bat some honest conservatives condemned the ad as it should be condemned. Then the GOP excuse makers started their work on the net and in the right wing media and suddenly those lame excuses why Romney was not so bad came pouring into this thread like a bad case of the runs after too many cheap burritos.

And that will continue unabated for 12 months.
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Maggie's got a lot of common sense and tries to be fair...even though she's pretty darned conservative in most of her positions. But when I see fellow conservatives defying logic as some have done on this thread, they lose all credibility with me -- and with a whole lot of other posters on this forum. I don't know why they can't see that.
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

haymarket said:
What is both revealing and sadly pathetic about this thread is the progression - (or would that be the opposite?) of partisan opinion from the right as it picks up steam. Right off the bat some honest conservatives condemned the ad as it should be condemned. Then the GOP excuse makers started their work on the net and in the right wing media and suddenly those lame excuses why Romney was not so bad came pouring into this thread like a bad case of the runs after too many cheap burritos.

And that will continue unabated for 12 months.
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You are one of the last people on this forum who should be using the words "revealing," "sadly pathetic," and "partisan opinion" in the same sentence.
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

MaggieD said:
Maggie's got a lot of common sense and tries to be fair...even though she's pretty darned conservative in most of her positions. But when I see fellow conservatives defying logic as some have done on this thread, they lose all credibility with me -- and with a whole lot of other posters on this forum. I don't know why they can't see that.
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My glass is raised to you Fair Lady. Although at this time of the day its only milk. ;):2wave:
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

TacticalEvilDan said:
You are one of the last people on this forum who should be using the words "revealing," "sadly pathetic," and "partisan opinion" in the same sentence.
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So tell me why you would say that?
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

TacticalEvilDan said:
You know exactly why, as does anybody who has seen you in action for any length of time. If you want to play dumb, though, feel free.
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No. I really want to know this. You doing a drive by attack on me and then racing off as I come to the door does not cut it. Lets see what you got....... if you got anything more than just vitriol.
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

haymarket said:
No. I really want to know this. You doing a drive by attack on me and then racing off as I come to the door does not cut it. Lets see what you got....... if you got anything more than just vitriol.
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I'm just pointing out that you're the pot calling the kettle black, which is pretty much common knowledge around these parts.
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

Somebody be done got called out! :lamo
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

TacticalEvilDan said:
I'm just pointing out that you're the pot calling the kettle black, which is pretty much common knowledge around these parts.
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All you are doing is repeating the same personal attacks without any proof of your charges. Come on Dan - man up here. What do you got on me? Man up and prove it.
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

haymarket said:
All you are doing is repeating the same personal attacks without any proof of your charges. Come on Dan - man up here. What do you got on me? Man up and prove it.
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We could start with your corporate conspiracy theory.
 
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apdst said:
Somebody be done got called out! :lamo
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And that someone is you. More times than I care to remember.

As for me, if anyone wants to call me out, they need to man up and stand their ground and back up their insults and personal attacks with actual proof.

As if some righties here even understood the concept.:roll:
 
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apdst said:
We could start with your corporate conspiracy theory.
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Please quote where I advocated any corporate conspiracy theory with quotes from my posts doing so.

In the absence of your ability to do just that, you should man up and retract your words.

I know fat chance of either happening.
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

haymarket said:
Please quote where I advocated any corporate conspiracy theory with quotes from my posts doing so.

In the absence of your ability to do just that, you should man up and retract your words.

I know fat chance of either happening.
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Hey, no sweat, my man.

haymarket said:
What you need to do is to quit creating excuses for corporations refusal to hire people and stop being willing to act as a sycophant and toadie for them when they even fail to achieve what you claimed that they would achieve.

For the longest time all we ever heard is that we need to reduce corporate taxes. Why? Because we were taxing compaines to death and they had no money to hire more workers. If only the taxes could be lowered then that extra money could be used to expand and hire.
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haymarket said:
All you are doing is repeating the same personal attacks without any proof of your charges. Come on Dan - man up here. What do you got on me? Man up and prove it.
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No, all I am doing is refusing to let you bait me into doing more than saying what pretty much everybody on this forum already knows.
 
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apdst said:
Hey, no sweat, my man.
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This is downright hilarious. Nothing in that post says one word about any conspiracy theory among corporations.

This is really funny. You make an irresponsible and scurrilous charge. You get called out on it. Then you fall flat on your face trying to save face. This is amazing. :lamo:mrgreen::lamo
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
No, all I am doing is refusing to let you bait me into doing more than saying what pretty much everybody on this forum already knows.
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Then it should be easy for you Dan. Really easy. Come on, man up and show us what you got on me.
 
Re: Is This Add Dishonest or Does It Cross The Line.

haymarket said:
Then it should be easy for you Dan. Really easy. Come on, man up and show us what you got on me.
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I think I'll just let you pointlessly question my -- what is it you're questioning anyway, my manhood or my courage or my integrity -- which you know nothing about, because now that I've pointed out what so many would call obvious, I'm all done with you. :D
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
I think I'll just let you pointlessly question my -- what is it you're questioning anyway, my manhood or my courage or my integrity -- which you know nothing about, because now that I've pointed out what so many would call obvious, I'm all done with you. :D
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Actually it is your ability to back up your mouth with more than just your words - find mine and tell us what is so objectionable to them.
 
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apdst said:
Hey, no sweat, my man.
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and apdst - here is the ENTIRE post that you selectively clipped about corporations not hiring.
It is from the thread "They Did It On Purpose" - post 311

What you need to do is to quit creating excuses for corporations refusal to hire people and stop being willing to act as a sycophant and toadie for them when they even fail to achieve what you claimed that they would achieve.

For the longest time all we ever heard is that we need to reduce corporate taxes. Why? Because we were taxing compaines to death and they had no money to hire more workers. If only the taxes could be lowered then that extra money could be used to expand and hire.

A truckload of reeking manure does not begin to do justice to that sorry conservative meme.

Many businesses are rolling in billions today like a pig in slop but are they hiring as promised? No way jose - no way. And do you call them on the carpet for it since the sirens of the right played nonstop to allow them just to keep more money so they would then hire? No way you will. Now you accept some other poor mouthed excuse planted in you by ALEC or CATO or some other ring wing extremist organization and you just nod your head and do the Toadie Tango or the Sycophant Shuffle and accept it while you learn the new and latest excuse.

Of late you have repeated the schtick that business cannot tell the future so they will not hire today. As if that is something different from previous history.

The private sector cares about one thing and only one thing - maximizing their own profits. Hiring people does not figure into that goal if it is not necessary no matter how much money they keep, or how little they are regulated or anything else.

And I am 100% sure that if regulations were decreased this afternoon and the hiring flood did not come - the CATO's and ALEC's of this world would come up with other excuses and the warriors of the right would learn a new Toadie Tango or a new version of the Sycophant Shuffle to the new tune.

Its worse than pathetic.
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There is nothing in there about a conspiracy among corporations. It states quite clearly what motivates a corporation. It skewers the right wing who invents excuses why corporations are not hiring. It skewers the toadies and sycophants of corporations. It criticizes the lack of intellectual integrity among those same toadies and sycopants who quickly learn new excuses when the old ones fall short of reality.

But sadly for you - NO CONSPIRACY THEORY.
 
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On topic please.
 
Bah, as usual I'm late to the party and all the "likes" have been given away. :(

Of course the ad is dishonest, and because the ad actually took words Romney's people knew had not been Obama's and accused him of saying those words in 2008, it crosses the line of usual political distortion. If anyone legitimately believes that this ad is not dishonest, then they need to reacquaint themselves with a refresher course in Ethics 101.
 
DiAnna said:
Bah, as usual I'm late to the party and all the "likes" have been given away. :(

Of course the ad is dishonest, and because the ad actually took words Romney's people knew had not been Obama's and accused him of saying those words in 2008, it crosses the line of usual political distortion. If anyone legitimately believes that this ad is not dishonest, then they need to reacquaint themselves with a refresher course in Ethics 101.
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ethics?.. in politics?.... surely you jest!

I agree that it's dishonest... but i'm not too bent out of shape over it... Romney is being dishonest about Obama being dishonest about McCain being dishonest. about.. i dunno.. Hitler ... who cares.. it's all dishonest.
 
Thrilla said:
ethics?.. in politics?.... surely you jest!

I agree that it's dishonest... but i'm not too bent out of shape over it... Romney is being dishonest about Obama being dishonest about McCain being dishonest. about.. i dunno.. Hitler ... who cares.. it's all dishonest.
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Mostly I'm annoyed because I don't want to vote for Obama, and out of the GOP's current crop of clowns the only one I was interested in considering was Romney. So yeah, I'm a bit upset to see that he's just a dishonest prick like the rest of them. Looks like I'll be doing another write-in vote. Bummer.
 
DiAnna said:
Mostly I'm annoyed because I don't want to vote for Obama, and out of the GOP's current crop of clowns the only one I was interested in considering was Romney. So yeah, I'm a bit upset to see that he's just a dishonest prick like the rest of them. Looks like I'll be doing another write-in vote. Bummer.
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I wonder how many votes Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck are going to get next year.
 
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