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They did it on purpose

Did Democrats cause the super committee to fail on purpose?


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If we allow the Bush tax cuts to expire, it will raise taxes on everyone.

Yes. And rather than letting them expire on the upper brackets while preserving them for everyone else, that is EXACTLY what the GOP has guaranteed will hapen.
 
They're not the same thing. We can increase revenue, without raising taxes. I agree a revenue increase is needed, but raising taxes is the wrong way to make that happen and probably won't work.

Allowing job creation will increase revenues.



Because you BELIEVE. You BELIEVE. You want to BELIEVE and you do BELIEVE.

talking with far right wingers these days is like discussing religion.
 
You realize of course that taxing consumption is very anti-business, because it will result in people spending less money on things that businesses make.

You also realize that one of the "9s" in St. Herman's plan is a consumption tax, right?

Right and one of the 9's is a 9% income tax. I know, I know, that would mean that more people would have more money in their pocket to spend on stuff and, well, we can't have that. It would make too much sense. Right?
 
Why couldn't Obama allow the trans-can pipeline to begin construction. The tax revenue from that would surpass a 1% tax hike.

Well, there's States Rights that you guys are always going on about. From my understanding, Nebraska isn't too thrilled with how it cuts through there.

If he did allow it, you'd just be complaining that it's a handout to the Unions (because who do think is going to build the pipeline?)
 
A little old, but you get the point: Companies hold record $837B in cash, yet won't hire workers - USATODAY.com Companies hold record $837B in cash, yet won't hire workers

Most excellent of you to print this again. I am sick and tired of the right wing crap that if we lowered taxes on corporations then they would a) have more money, and b) would then hire more workers. The fact is they are swimming in damn money and they are NOT hiring workers. The premise of them needing more money is a damn LIE.
 
Yes. And rather than letting them expire on the upper brackets while preserving them for everyone else, that is EXACTLY what the GOP has guaranteed will hapen.

That ain't gonna happen. When they expire, everyone's taxes will go up.
 
Right and one of the 9's is a 9% income tax. I know, I know, that would mean that more people would have more money in their pocket to spend on stuff and, well, we can't have that. It would make too much sense. Right?

Except that then you're taxing them for doing something with this extra money they have in their pockets. It doesn't make sense to say, "Here, you have more money to spend, so we're going to take it off of that end too."
 
Most excellent of you to print this again. I am sick and tired of the right wing crap that if we lowered taxes on corporations then they would a) have more money, and b) would then hire more workers. The fact is they are swimming in damn money and they are NOT hiring workers. The premise of them needing more money is a damn LIE.

Well, raising our taxes sure as hell isn't going to fix anything.
 
That ain't gonna happen. When they expire, everyone's taxes will go up.

That's exactly my point. Rather than letting some people's taxes go up, they've guaranteed that everyone's will.
 
Well, there's States Rights that you guys are always going on about. From my understanding, Nebraska isn't too thrilled with how it cuts through there.

The Nebraska state government? Or a buncha treehuggers that happen to live in Nebraska?

If he did allow it, you'd just be complaining that it's a handout to the Unions (because who do think is going to build the pipeline?)

Wanna bet? ;) Statitically speaking, only about 20% of the hands building the pipeline would be union hands.
 
That's exactly my point. Rather than letting some people's taxes go up, they've guaranteed that everyone's will.

No one has put aything in place to only raise taxes on the millionaires and billionaires. When the Libbos say, "Bush tax cuts", they mean all of the Bush tax cuts.

The Libbos have been screaming to abolish the Bush tax cuts. Well, you asked for it, looks like you just might get it.
 
That's exactly my point. Rather than letting some people's taxes go up, they've guaranteed that everyone's will.

You've got to be crazy if you think Republicans are the ones guaranteeing that everyone's taxes are going to go up. Republicans brought spending cuts to the table, Democrats brought over a trillion dollars in tax hikes. Democrats want as large and powerful a government as possible.
 
That ain't gonna happen. When they expire, everyone's taxes will go up.

And the nation is fast catching on to the reality that the GOP is there to serve only the wealthy and will hold 90% of this nation hostage to serve their corporate masters.
 
The Nebraska state government? Or a buncha treehuggers that happen to live in Nebraska?

The Governor of Nebraska:

"Many Nebraskans, including myself, support the pipeline, but we are opposed to the route that goes through the Sandhills and over the Ogallala aquifer," Heineman explained. "We ask: Why would you risk an oil spill or leak over the aquifer when TransCanada already has a pipeline route on the eastern side of Nebraska?"

Nebraska May Play Key Role In Canada Pipeline Battle : NPR

The Governor of Nebraska, by the way, is a Republican.

Dave Heineman - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
But this isn't class warfare, oh no. It's only class warfare when the middle class, who buy the way, BUILT THIS ENTIRE ****ING COUNTRY, do it.

The middle class didn't do all alone. Someone had to put up the jack to pay for it. Gee! Where did that money possibly come from?
 
You've got to be crazy if you think Republicans are the ones guaranteeing that everyone's taxes are going to go up. Republicans brought spending cuts to the table, Democrats brought over a trillion dollars in tax hikes. Democrats want as large and powerful a government as possible.

If this is what Republicans actually believe in, why were there no big budget cuts when they controlled Congress and the White House?

If you think the Republican Party has your best interests at heart, you are the one who's crazy.
 
The middle class didn't do all alone. Someone had to put up the jack to pay for it. Gee! Where did that money possibly come from?

True, but you didn't see Rockefeller wielding a hammer.

If you think the rich don't need the middle class (as TurtleDude does), you are sorely mistaken.
 
Fine, re-route the ****ing thing.

Either way, though, this is yet another example of government standing in the way of job creation.

Great re-route it. In the meantime, is Obama just supposed to say "No, **** Nebraska. We're just going to build it there anyway."
 
And the nation is fast catching on to the reality that the GOP is there to serve only the wealthy and will hold 90% of this nation hostage to serve their corporate masters.

We also realize that the party that serves the poor only benefits from creating more poor people to serve, so those new poor people can now vote for them.

You're the chief of staff for a member of your state's masterbature, so we know you're all about bringing more money into the government coffers, no matter how you have to do it.
 
Great re-route it. In the meantime, is Obama just supposed to say "No, **** Nebraska. We're just going to build it there anyway."

I don't think putting off the decision for a whole years showed much leadership.
 
True, but you didn't see Rockefeller wielding a hammer.

If you think the rich don't need the middle class (as TurtleDude does), you are sorely mistaken.

You didn't see any working stiffs writing checks for seven figures, either. See how all these things have to work together to work at all?
 
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