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Do you support repealing the automatic trigger or changing it?

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  • No repeal, no changes.

    Votes: 20 66.7%
  • Yes to repeal.

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Shift cuts from defense to social programmes

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Shift cuts from social programmes to defense

    Votes: 5 16.7%

  • Total voters
    30

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They made a deal, I think the trigger should be binding.
 
I'm sick and tired of Congress playing Chicken and then changing the rules or breaking their vows at the last minute for the sake of political expediency.
 
Anyone remember what area the "triggered" cuts are in? The triggers should be binding - I respect him for saying so. But, for all I know, the cuts may be in areas I don't what cut.

What am I saying? I want all the areas cut!
 
I am entirely fine with cuts, regardless of where they are. We have to learn to live within our means, period. The supercommittee had a shot at finding a solution, it's no surprise they're going to fail, that was never in doubt to begin with, but we can't just shrug our shoulders and say "they failed, let's not try".

We need trillions in cuts, no matter how bad it hurts.
 
I'm pretty sure that if the supercommittee fails, everything gets cut.

Not everything

I believe budget items with specific revenue sources that are in the black are exempt (ie Social Security)

So the cuts will be coming primarily from the discretionary part of the budget, which would make the military take on about 50% of the cuts per year when the cuts hit
 
They made a deal, I think the trigger should be binding.


If the trigger for the automatic spending cuts does not apply and is not implemented, then the whole supercommittee thing was just a dog and pony show, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.


(As I more than half expected.)
 
I applaude Obama for standing firm on this issue. The politicians who are turning heals right now are pathetic. Let the automatic cuts happen!
 
change what before the triggers on the empty gun goes off? They will just wait and act like it did, click, click click... There will be a few suit cases of cash exchanged on some deals, American tax payers will get kick in the gut again; politicians get their money everyone's happy!
 
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I applaude Obama for standing firm on this issue. The politicians who are turning heals right now are pathetic. Let the automatic cuts happen!
Yes I am glad Obama had those automatic cuts strctured into the deficit cutting process.

At least that way, he has ensured that deficit cutting will continue and keep the country operating... something that the republicans would hate to see as it affects their chances for White House 2012.
 
Congress let the train go when they had a chance to stop it at the station. It's heading down hill and they need to let it roll on!

It's time Americans - not lying dog, self serving, lobbyist funded, low life, scum sucking, **** heeled politicos - be forced to man up and participate in their own governance! IF we are a Democratic Republic then WE, ALL OF US, are responsible to each other and the nation as a whole. Americans must step up and choose their own economic destiny. We must stop depending on suckers, dummies, fools and whores in Washington. It is our OWN responsibility to make informed decisions for the good or the nation. Or, we can remain sucktards of our own ignorance and inability to act. If an imminent crash is what it takes, so be it.
 
This whole thing was a Republican idea, I say make them actually follow through with the spending cuts they threatened. Between the spending cuts to the military/industrial complex and letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire next year should be a good start in the direction we need to go.

Tally ho!!!
 
Anyone remember what area the "triggered" cuts are in? The triggers should be binding - I respect him for saying so. But, for all I know, the cuts may be in areas I don't what cut.

What am I saying? I want all the areas cut!


lol the the cuts i bet u dont want are to defense spending!


i think its all a bunch of crap anyway!
there is no reason we should of ever got to this point, hell we should of never got to the point where we had to put those triggers in place!

come election time i bet every one on the so called super committee looses their seat!
 
... in which case, those 12 individuals will serve as the sacrificial lambs that their colleagues blame the cuts on when they happen.
 
This whole thing was a Republican idea, I say make them actually follow through with the spending cuts they threatened. Between the spending cuts to the military/industrial complex and letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire next year should be a good start in the direction we need to go.

Tally ho!!!

the whole thing was a Republican idea?...what?

the DOD will spend more on the next budget than it did on the last budget... even with the "cuts" taking place

the congressional definition of "cut" is different from ours.
if they spend 5 bucks this year, and want to spend 10 bucks next year, they will consider it a "cut" to spend 7 bucks.
 
They made a deal, I think the trigger should be binding.

Automatic triggers are fine from most assault rifles, but the barrels of most hunting rifles were not made to withstand the heat generated from firing rounds in rapid succession. Even a few 3-round bursts would permanently warp and ruin an otherwise quality sport rifle.

If the trigger is binding it may be due to dirt, as a trigger will topically fail to engage the firing pin if it malfunctions. If you're experiencing a run-away weapon, that may be due to over heating the barrel with a lot of shots, with will cause the barrel to "cook off" every round that is locked in it. If you're using a belt-fed weapon you can try and brake the links, otherwise just point the weapon in a safe direction down range and let it run the ammo out.
 
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This whole thing was a Republican idea, I say make them actually follow through with the spending cuts they threatened. Between the spending cuts to the military/industrial complex and letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire next year should be a good start in the direction we need to go.

Tally ho!!!

i give them credit for at least making an attempt to hold them accountable. if memory serves correctly it was the republicans that wanted a balanced budget amendment to make sure they do their jobs and the democrats wouldnt agree to it
 
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the whole thing was a Republican idea?...what?

Yes, it was a result of the GOP's refusal to raise the debt ceiling to pay our past bills.



the DOD will spend more on the next budget than it did on the last budget... even with the "cuts" taking place

the congressional definition of "cut" is different from ours.
if they spend 5 bucks this year, and want to spend 10 bucks next year, they will consider it a "cut" to spend 7 bucks.

When people get serious about wanting to address our debt, military cuts and eliminating tax cuts for the wealthy will have to play a large role. Until that point, the debt is not being taken as a serious problem.
 
i give them credit for at least making an attempt to hold them accountable. if memory serves correctly it was the republicans that wanted a balanced budget amendment to make sure they do their jobs and the democrats wouldnt agree to it


A balanced budget amendment does not address the correct priorities. It does not touch the cause of most of the debt over the last 30 years, tax cuts for the rich, and spending almost as the rest of the world combined on the military.
 
A balanced budget amendment does not address the correct priorities. It does not touch the cause of most of the debt over the last 30 years, tax cuts for the rich, and spending almost as the rest of the world combined on the military.

your right there are still many more problems too deal with, but by your logic we should just ignore them all unless we can solve all of them at the same time!
 
Let the cuts commence as already agreed upon.

Let the Bush 2001 & 03 tax cuts expire as scheduled.

Congress can do what it does best to help these both - nothing.
 
some/most of the cuts aren't actually cuts... they are decreases in budget growth.

in other words, spending will still increase, just at a lower rate.

That's the mad genius of it all. Fiscal restraint in Washington died a long time ago. All the politicians do is fiddle with some numbers, shift a little around, make largely baseless projections and call them cuts.
 
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