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Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

Does the Occupy Wall Street movement represent the 99%?

  • Yes, they very much represent their complaints & agenda.

    Votes: 11 14.5%

  • They represent some of their complaints & agenda, but also have their own unique/radical ideas.

    Votes: 20 26.3%

  • Not really, their ideas are more represent the complaints & goals of the poor and radicals.

    Votes: 17 22.4%

  • Not at all! They only speak for a radical fringe!!

    Votes: 28 36.8%
  • Total voters
    76
  • Poll closed .
Catawba said:
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Lol. Perfect. Giant platitudes with no sense of reality.....

So #ows is indeed about dubious causes.
 
 
 
conservativeguy said:
My guess is they represent the radicals, economic failures, welfare beggars and full fledged libtards that comprise 25 - 30% of the population. Their message is just as confusing and illiterate as the messages we get from the group I described. I really do hope they come back in the fall of next year and start up the same stupid ship they just ended. They are the gift that keeps on giving.
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Is there just one thing coming from OWS that you can embrace without your insulting descrriptions of the protesters and those who support the movement ?
 
Parrish said:
Is there just one thing coming from OWS that you can embrace without your insulting descrriptions of the protesters and those who support the movement ?
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We witnessed the same thing with the powers that be, that demonized the Vietnam war protesters and the Civil Rights movement.
 
Yes, it's the same thing happening all over again. Reactionaries will base their criticisms on blanket smears and irrationality rather than precise judgement and reason. Many people find it much easier to call somebody a 'hippie' than look at what they're standing for. yuban51's post at the top of the page is an example.
 
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Jim Jones . . . was a socialist / communist / atheist .. he would be proud of OWS
 
Martin Luther King Jr. would also support the protests; he would be standing alongside his fellow protestors and would also be a leading figure.
 
JustinS said:
Martin Luther King Jr. would also support the protests; he would be standing alongside his fellow protestors and would also be a leading figure.
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Would he also agree with the man who is your avatar?
 
Josie said:
Would he also agree with the man who is your avatar?
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Yes. I am not sure whether or not Dr. King was a socialist, though.
 
JustinS said:
Yes, it's the same thing happening all over again. Reactionaries will base their criticisms on blanket smears and irrationality rather than precise judgement and reason. Many people find it much easier to call somebody a 'hippie' than look at what they're standing for. yuban51's post at the top of the page is an example.
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I don't speak for most of the anti-OWS crowd, but the reason why I oppose OWS is because of their despicable and hateful actions, and their carelessness and selfishness for the consequences of their actions, not for their message.
If they had been peaceful but still had the same message, there wouldn't be the fights and brawls common in OWS movements and the US government and many would respect their right to speech.
However, they have been very violent and made very many criminal acts, and made a huge despicable mess of themselves. That's why we oppose them.
Besides, their message has merit, albeit that they suggest to the wrong cause and has the wrong solutions
 
JustinS said:
Martin Luther King Jr. would also support the protests; he would be standing alongside his fellow protestors and would also be a leading figure.
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How would you know?
The thing I hate most are the claims "Reagan would have supported this", "the founders of the US would have done this". They are idiotic claims, supported by nothing except assumptions and delusions, and does little to support an argument.
In addition, ideologies and thinking changes over time and in circumstances. There's no way how Luther would react after decades of political, social, and economic changes
 
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Proud South Korean said:
I don't speak for most of the anti-OWS crowd, but the reason why I oppose OWS is because of their despicable and hateful actions, and their carelessness and selfishness for the consequences of their actions, not for their message.
If they had been peaceful but still had the same message, there wouldn't be the fights and brawls common in OWS movements and the US government and many would respect their right to speech.
However, they have been very violent and made very many criminal acts, and made a huge despicable mess of themselves. That's why we oppose them.
Besides, their message has merit, albeit that they suggest to the wrong cause and has the wrong solutions
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They have done many good things, too:
After Feeding Thousands, OWS Sits Down in Liberty Square | OccupyWallSt.org

I understand that there are many reasonable reactionary criticisms, but many of the less reasonable reactionaries will use pejoratives in order to convey their argument.
 
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JustinS said:
They have done many good things, too:
After Feeding Thousands, OWS Sits Down in Liberty Square | OccupyWallSt.org

I understand that there are many reasonable reactionary criticisms, but many of the less reasonable reactionaries will use pejoratives as a means to convey their argument.
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There have been many bad things too, and many of their message (I mean the individuals)is disgusting.
They shut down the Portland port, they assaulted police and bystanders without cause, they were caught doing indecent acts in public and exposing kids to drugs.
 
Proud South Korean said:
They shut down the Portland port, they assaulted police and bystanders without cause, they were caught doing indecent acts in public and exposing kids to drugs.
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I wish that they wouldn't have done these things.

Proud South Korean said:
How would you know?
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I think that he probably would have. Dr. King was a notorious left-winger, having also been protesting the Vietnam War, among other things.
 
JustinS said:
I wish that they wouldn't have done these things.


I think that he probably would have. Dr. King was a notorious left-winger, having also been protesting the Vietnam War, among other things.
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See post 441.
Also, I agree with you on how OWS was wrong to do those things. The truly incredible thing is that some assholes justify that, sitting with their computer, living a posh life with no violence involved and never having experienced it, writing how violence should be justified
 
Violence is the fault of every protest. It is inevitable.
 
dadman said:
Jim Jones . . . was a socialist / communist / atheist .. he would be proud of OWS
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Thomas Jefferson was a patriot who believed in country before personal greed.. he would be proud of the OWS.

"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson
 
Proud South Korean said:
I don't speak for most of the anti-OWS crowd, but the reason why I oppose OWS is because of their despicable and hateful actions, and their carelessness and selfishness for the consequences of their actions, not for their message.
If they had been peaceful but still had the same message, there wouldn't be the fights and brawls common in OWS movements and the US government and many would respect their right to speech.
However, they have been very violent and made very many criminal acts, and made a huge despicable mess of themselves. That's why we oppose them.
Besides, their message has merit, albeit that they suggest to the wrong cause and has the wrong solutions
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The OWS is one of the most peaceful in the world's history of mass protest. Have you not seen the rest of the protests happening around the world today???
 
Catawba said:
The OWS is one of the most peaceful in the world's history of mass protest. Have you not seen the rest of the protests happening around the world today???
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Most of the other countries with mass protests are protesting actual dictators and authoritarian regimes. They have become violent because the Government directly or indirectly killed many protesters. Comparing OWS to such international situations is dangerous for the occupy movement, since those other examples have or were or did over through their Government.

Are you asserting then that the purpose of OWS is to overthrow the US Government? I assume that you are not, but do you see what I mean?
 
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