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Would you leave the park?

If the mayor evicts you, would you leave?

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Josie

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Let's say you were part of the Occupy, Tea Party or other movement you care about in large city. You've been camped out in this part for several weeks. The mayor of the city decides that enough is enough and you cannot occupy the park for as long as you want to. The mayor orders the police to evict you and your group from the park.

Do you leave or do you stand your ground?
 
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This, of course, depends on the legality factor.
So, as usual, no vote..
The point is, things are not as good as they can be, IMO.
Wall street must either be reformed or it must clean its own house.
Until this happens, kudos to the occupiers.. but they may have to "sit in" forever...
The problem is man's greed...this must be controlled.
 
Josie said:
Let's say you were part of the Occupy, Tea Party or other movement you care about in large city. You've been camped out in this part for several weeks. The mayor of the city decides that enough is enough and you cannot occupy the park for as long as you want to. The mayor orders the police to evict you and your group from the park.

Do you leave or do you stand your ground?
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Well more so - I wouldn't even be there to begin with.

I don't believe I have to make myself miserable and homeless in order to make changes in this country happen.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
Well more so - I wouldn't even be there to begin with.

I don't believe I have to make myself miserable and homeless in order to make changes in this country happen.
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I'm pretty much here. The OWS movement has no voice...and the voices it does have are a cross between radicals and idiots. If they had a common cause that I believed in, though, I'd want to be arrested.
 
I wouldn't be there in the first place... but if i was and with threatened with arrest, i'd go away.

inconsequential martyrdom is kinda silly to me, so I won't volunteer to be arrested..... i'd prefer to fight smarter than that.
 
earthworm said:
The problem is man's greed...this must be controlled.
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Good luck with that.


Aunt Spiker said:
Well more so - I wouldn't even be there to begin with.

I don't believe I have to make myself miserable and homeless in order to make changes in this country happen.
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Same here. The fatal flaw in the OWS movement is lack of organization. What do they want? Oh, they have this vague... and unrealistic in the sense that it ain't gonna happen... ideal, but who is able to sit down and articulate anything?
 
i'm wondering... for those whom would be arrested during the course of supporting their cause.... what do you hope do gain by doing so?
 
I'd just leave, and go somewhere else.
 
I would leave. I have no interest in jail. But you shouldn't really ask me, I'm kind of a little bitch when it comes to anything that could involve jail time. There are ways other than standing in a park by which changes can be made.
 
Josie said:
Let's say you were part of the Occupy, Tea Party or other movement you care about in large city. You've been camped out in this part for several weeks. The mayor of the city decides that enough is enough and you cannot occupy the park for as long as you want to. The mayor orders the police to evict you and your group from the park.

Do you leave or do you stand your ground?
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Hell yes I would leave the park! To take a nice **** or get a nice shower.
 
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Thrilla said:
i'm wondering... for those whom would be arrested during the course of supporting their cause.... what do you hope do gain by doing so?
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One of the main purposes of peaceful protest is civil disobedience leading to arrest.
 
If I was there legally, I would stay.
 
There are certain things that would cause me to stand my ground, and either kill or die or be arrested or whatever.

That list is pretty short.

A passing political issue that isn't really a matter of life or death? No. I'd leave when ordered to.


This is assuming I was there to start with. I can't see camping out in a city park for either OWS or the Tea Party or any similar political hoo-yah. I have a life.
 
Josie said:
Let's say you were part of the Occupy, Tea Party or other movement you care about in large city. You've been camped out in this part for several weeks. The mayor of the city decides that enough is enough and you cannot occupy the park for as long as you want to. The mayor orders the police to evict you and your group from the park.

Do you leave or do you stand your ground?
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First Amendment said:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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Heck, I would have left the park as soon as I smelled my pits, felt my greasy hair, and knew it was time for a good shower.
 
nobody can manage to revolutionize without having a courage.
 
Josie said:
Let's say you were part of the Occupy, Tea Party or other movement you care about in large city. You've been camped out in this part for several weeks. The mayor of the city decides that enough is enough and you cannot occupy the park for as long as you want to. The mayor orders the police to evict you and your group from the park.

Do you leave or do you stand your ground?
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If you are being evicted by the police do you really have a choice other than leave on your own and not go to jail or be dragged out by police and be tossed in jail? I could be wrong but I do not think and tea party republicans camped out any where.
 
pbrauer said:
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It does not say camp out in parks, bogart tax payer funded property as long as you like, obstruct businesses, obstruct other people from enjoying tax payer funded property like parks and sidewalks and so on.
 
I have mixed feelings and will not vote.

On the one hand, I am greatly sympathetic with many of the stated views of OWS and the goals of achieving a society and economic system which stops this widening gap between the rich and the rest of us as well as some needed reforms to make us a far more sustainable society which functions well for all of society.

Having said that, I was born in 1949 and am a child of protest movements of the Sixties which resemble nothing like OWS. I find their methods a bit strange and would not adopt them myself. I believe they have made their point, and have grabbed the attention of the nation. I am not sure remaining in these parks would do any good for the cause.

I think this movement needs a new direction and also needs something they are loathe to embrace - leadership and a direct goal which is announced and clear to understand and achieve.
 
jamesrage said:
If you are being evicted by the police do you really have a choice other than leave on your own and not go to jail or be dragged out by police and be tossed in jail? I could be wrong but I do not think and tea party republicans camped out any where.
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No, tea partiers didn't camp out. This is a hypothetical situation in that regard.
 
earthworm said:
The problem is man's greed...this must be controlled.
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Isn't it weird how people scream about how conservatives want to "legislate morality", and then they find a reason to want to do it themselves?
 
Josie said:
Let's say you were part of the Occupy, Tea Party or other movement you care about in large city. You've been camped out in this part for several weeks. The mayor of the city decides that enough is enough and you cannot occupy the park for as long as you want to. The mayor orders the police to evict you and your group from the park.

Do you leave or do you stand your ground?
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It depends on the cause. If it was a TEA Party rally, we would probably all leave. One thing that has been a staple of TEA Party rallies has been non-violence, adherence to the law, cleanliness, etc.

But there are some issues that I would not leave the park for. Protesting taxpayer funded abortion, a socialist takeover of the government, overt cancellation of any of our constitutional rights, etc, those might be protests I wouldn't leave for even if the mayor told me to.

If I was a young student with nothing to lose, no job, no reputation to worry about, no family, whose choices of law breaking are underage drinking, pirating music, drugs, random vandalism, or staying in the park after the mayor says to leave, I probably wouldn't think twice about staying with the OWS mob after the mayor orders us out. At that young age, it probably would have strengthened my resolve to stay. These days, spending a night in jail because I was mad as hell and wasn't gonna take it anymore, although I couldn't really define what "it" was, just isn't an option. I have a family and a job.
 
I think it is stay until the gov't begins to acknowledge and adjust the current "plutonomy." Government of the people, by the people and for the people instead of the corporations.
 
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