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Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?

Is the Confederate flag a symbol of treason?


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was the USA formed out of a political movement that sought to protect the right to own human beings?
Evidently it was at least ONE of the political principles that the USA was founded upon (whether intentionally or unintentionally) because the founders certainly didn't make statehood/nationhood contingent upon abolition. The majority of the Revolutionary Fathers and Founders were slave-holders as well. :shrug:
 
was the USA formed out of a political movement that sought to protect the right to own human beings?

When you consider that England was on it's way to abolish slaves, it could be argued that that is exactly what happened.
 
When you consider that England was on it's way to abolish slaves, it could be argued that that is exactly what happened.

slavery ended in Britain in 1799...not 1776.

meanwhile, did the USA form out of a political desire to keep slavery legal? no, it did not.

however, the CSA was formed in order to preserve slavery.
 
please do not express such racist views in this thread.

It was hyperbole, used to point out the racism of others.

Racism against white folks is racism, too.
 
It was hyperbole, used to point out the racism of others.

Racism against white folks is racism, too.

"hick", is not a racist term..if it is used to as part of criticism of one's racist beliefs.

there is nothing wrong with calling poor white racist people, "hicks".
 
and yet, you have failed to condemn the use of the word "nigger", in this thread.

He didn't condemn it's use, because it wasn't applied to an entire culture of people.

You just admitted that calling Southerners rednecks, was because you don't like the way they think. That's racism, my friend.
 
"hick", is not a racist term..if it is used to as part of criticism of one's racist beliefs.

It's ok to call racist blacks, niggers?

there is nothing wrong with calling poor white racist people, "hicks".

"poor white", people being the reason that you use the term! :lamo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
slavery ended in Britain in 1799...not 1776.

meanwhile, did the USA form out of a political desire to keep slavery legal? no, it did not.

however, the CSA was formed in order to preserve slavery.

I guess that's the reason slavery was abolished in the Constitution. Oh, wait...
 
meanwhile, did the USA form out of a political desire to keep slavery legal?
I already addressed this; however, truth avoidance seems to be one of your primary MO's. Answer: The USA certainly was not formed with the "political desire" to abolish slavery either, as the majority of the Revolutionary Fathers and Founders were slave-owners themselves. Also, Constitutional statehood/nationhood WAS NOT contingent upon the abolishment of slavery.

Finally, the cotton, tobacco, and sugar cane, industries of the South made up a huge percentage of the exports and revenue for our fledgling nation.............oh, and the Founders knew that production of these goods was dependent upon slave labor at the time.

BTW, you gonna ever answer the question of whether or not displaying the Stars and Stripes should be banned as well. After all, it proudly flew over the "Peculiar Institution" for much longer than the Confederate flag did?
 
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lesson of the day, free from me.

it's bad to utilize terms such as redneck, hick, nigger, etc .... it's bad to condone and or support such term utilization.

class adjourned.
your welcome.
 
...BTW, you gonna ever answer the question of whether or not displaying the Stars and Stripes should be banned as well....

the USA was nor formed mostly out of a desire to preserve slavery.

the CSA, was formed out of a desire to preserve slavery.
 
The only ignorance I've seen so far has come from the anti-webel folks.

I have seen gross ignorance in spades on this site. One poster claimed he would offer proof that all eleven confederate states held state wide votes on secession along with an additional three border states as well. he could only come up with a tiny three and was left looking rather foolish. Same poster offered the lunatic ranting of some convicted killer in prison for first degree murder that was published on Aryan and white supremacy sites because even wikipedia would not let the crap pollute their site.

Now that is ignorance supreme. :lamo:mrgreen::lamo
 
the USA was nor formed mostly out of a desire to preserve slavery.
Neither was the CSA.....mostly.

the CSA, was formed out of a desire to preserve slavery.
Why did you not say "mostly" here as well? Could it be that the CSA formed out of a desire to preserve slavery ONLY inasmuch as the United States did in 1776 (1789)? Could it be possible that slavery was just an ancillary issue and that it boiled down to property rights/state's rights which happened to include the South's chief source of revenue (slave-driven agriculture). Could it be that the Founding Fathers favored separation of the colonies for many of the same reasons? If the previous statement were rational.....could it also be that the Stars and Stripes is just as representative of slavery (and that dark period in our nation's history) as is the Confederate Flag?
 
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I already addressed this; however, truth avoidance seems to be one of your primary MO's. Answer: The USA certainly was not formed with the "political desire" to abolish slavery either, as the majority of the Revolutionary Fathers and Founders were slave-owners themselves. Also, Constitutional statehood/nationhood WAS NOT contingent upon the abolishment of slavery.

Finally, the cotton, tobacco, and sugar cane, industries of the South made up a huge percentage of the exports and revenue for our fledgling nation.............oh, and the Founders knew that production of these goods was dependent upon slave labor at the time.

BTW, you gonna ever answer the question of whether or not displaying the Stars and Stripes should be banned as well. After all, it proudly flew over the "Peculiar Institution" for much longer than the Confederate flag did?

The founders knew that eventually slavery will get phased out. That's why they never mentioned slavery in the constitution.
 
he wasn't using the term to describe poor white people.

he was using the term to describe white racists who apologize for slavery.

Exactly, I wonder how people fail to see the distinction. Maybe they are part of the latter group you described and are highly offended.
 
I have seen gross ignorance in spades on this site. One poster claimed he would offer proof that all eleven confederate states held state wide votes on secession along with an additional three border states as well. he could only come up with a tiny three and was left looking rather foolish. Same poster offered the lunatic ranting of some convicted killer in prison for first degree murder that was published on Aryan and white supremacy sites because even wikipedia would not let the crap pollute their site.

Now that is ignorance supreme. :lamo:mrgreen::lamo
Hey Haymarket. Which state had the largest number of sworn/registered KKK members between 1880 and 1950? Better yet, how many Southern States do you believe are even in the top 10? Look it up, or do you have an aversion for truth as well? Or would you prefer that I just answer for you?
 
The founders knew that eventually slavery will get phased out. That's why they never mentioned slavery in the constitution.
They knew this how? Consulted the Stars? Better yet, I would sincerely, like for you to PROVE to me how YOU know, which future events the Founders were predicting 223 years ago. I'm going to sit back, this should be good! :thumbs:
 
They knew this how? Consulted the Stars? Better yet, I would sincerely, like for you to PROVE to me how YOU know, which future events the Founders were predicting 223 years ago. I'm going to sit back, this should be good! :thumbs:

why do you deny that slavery was the main cause of the South's secession?
 
how convenient of you, to stop at 1950.

:lamo
How convenient (and predictable) of you to dodge the question, YET AGAIN. :lol:
What's the matter, afraid your state might be on the list?
 
"hick", is not a racist term..if it is used to as part of criticism of one's racist beliefs.

there is nothing wrong with calling poor white racist people, "hicks".
So then according to your logic, poor black racist people can be called niggers?
 
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