The Other Side...

Pick as many as you wish, and define the "other side" as you choose.

They are doing their best in what they see as the best interests of the country, but they are infested with idiots and are the devil.

Redress said:

They are doing their best in what they see as the best interests of the country, but they are infested with idiots and are the devil.

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almost sounds like a madlib.

Krhazy said:

almost sounds like a madlib.

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It came surprisingly easy, but yeah, that was where I was going with it. It ended lame though.

I'm sitting in the middle, so my "other side" changes party lines depending on the topic.

The "other side" for me has some ideas I agree with, some ideas I'm half-and-half and has some I completely disagree on.

How boring.

EagleAye said:

I'm sitting in the middle, so my "other side" changes party lines depending on the topic.

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I think the same, but I'm often in with the left, so I would try to anwer from that standpoint.

It's impossible, though, to make a blanket statement. Some of them are complete idiots, but some of them have a good point . Take cpwill for instance. He's a smart person, and you can count on him to have something to talk about other than whatever Hannity got all hot and bothered about today. There's Conservative, who just when you think he's got something intelligent to add, falls back on "it's all Democrat's fault."

You could say the same about some of the left (well, the converse I suppose).

So I don't know how to vote on this one.

I answered:

is mostly reasonable
generally has the country's best interests at heart
is doing its best
is full of idiots
is completely incompetent

I consider the "other side" to be the entirety of conservatives/Republicans, not just the party leaders.

I definitely believe most people in this country have the country's best interest at heart and are doing (what they perceive) as their best. We just disagree on what "best" actually is. I also believe most of them are reasonable most of the time with their views.

I also believe that "the other side" is full of idiots and completely incompetent, but I feel that way about much of "my side" too, so that doesn't really mean much.

I selected them all. Does not matter what, which side or who. They are all good and bad.

rocket88 said:

I think the same, but I'm often in with the left, so I would try to anwer from that standpoint.

It's impossible, though, to make a blanket statement. Some of them are complete idiots, but some of them have a good point . Take cpwill for instance. He's a smart person, and you can count on him to have something to talk about other than whatever Hannity got all hot and bothered about today. There's Conservative, who just when you think he's got something intelligent to add, falls back on "it's all Democrat's fault."

You could say the same about some of the left (well, the converse I suppose).

So I don't know how to vote on this one.

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What disturbs me most is when, in my purely subjective opinion, it seems people are following the party line rather than thinking it through. In my experience, no single party has all the right answers, so why follow the party line? I guess this reflects a Centrist stance, but then again, why follow that party line either? Sometimes the middle is flat out wrong and one side makes more sense overall. I just can't see how one side can have all the right answers, only some of the right answers.

I hope and expect that my posting history is thoroughly confusing. Some might think I'm Conservative and others might think I'm Liberal. I'm not attached to a "side." I'm attached to what makes sense to me. So for me, the "other side" constantly changes.

The other side is full of idiots. It's plain to see.

I agree with most of the liberal posts here. I think a large portion of the right does not realize that it's been bought and paid for by corporate interests. They cling to guns, God, and right to life candidates. They do not realize that corporations care not for any of thier beliefs; only caring for life in that it might grow into cheap labor or military members.

No partisanship in this thread... No sir! :roll:

rosie1 said:

I think a large portion of the right does not realize that it's been bought and paid for by corporate interests.

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This part is true, but it could easily be said of the Democratic Party as well.

Meh, it's a bit of everything. I usually judge folks as individuals when I debate. There's folks on the other side who are completely full of **** (but either refuse, or are incapable of recognizing that they are full of ****), and there's folks on the other side who are reasonable and can make a solid defense of their position.

- Is usually better informed and comes up with better ideas than my side

Better informed? No. I think both sides are pretty decently informed in the sense of how many of them are informed. And I think "better" in terms of the ways or types their informed is a bit more subjective. I do'nt agree that they come up with "better" ideas than my side because generally "better" is a personal determination and I generally dislike most of the ideas the other side has thus making it hard to consider it "better".

- Often Make Good Points

Many do, many don't. Often is probably to generous to either side in regards to the amount they make GOOD points.

- Is Mostly Reasonable

I almost clicked this one, but not. I think most of your "reasonable" people tend towards more of the middle which is harder for me to clearly label as the "other side". I think when you get solidly into the left or right the split between the reasonable and unreasonable is closer to 50/50

- Generally has the country's best interests at hearts

I voted for this one, but with the caveat that they have the country's best interest at hearts based on their view of the world. Same thing I feel about the right. I think both sides are primarily working towards pushing the US in a way that will be best for the country...I just think there's SIGNIFICANT differences in what each side thinks the "best" may be or what actions may actually lead to the best or not.

- Is doing its best

I don't really think any political side is doing the best it can right now. I think both are more worried about keeping the other side from doing their best or even less then their best rather than trying to do their own best and convince people that's the better option

- Is full of idiots

Are there idiots? Yes. Is it "full of" idiots? Not really any more than most groups you find. I think most on either side aren't "idiots", just people with very very different views of the world.

- Is completely incompotent

Nope, there are many compotent people on the other side

- Hell bent on destroying the country

Possible fringe on either side that's desire is that? Yes. The other side as a whole? No. Both sides primarily would like to keep the United States of America existing

- Is the Devil

The other side isn't the devil, Foolsball is the devil.

I put often makes good points...but im not clear cut on either side...im in the middle...

Redress said:

They are doing their best in what they see as the best interests of the country, but they are infested with idiots and are the devil.

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Now how does this makes sense? Attempting to act in the country's best interest yet being the devil seems pretty mutually exclusive.

To the OP; where's the "If it wasn't for double standards, they wouldn't have any standards" option?

I'm pleasantly surprised to see that most people picked option #4 (generally has the country's best interests at heart). I think both sides have good intentions and both sides have plenty of idiots.

X Factor said:

Now how does this makes sense? Attempting to act in the country's best interest yet being the devil seems pretty mutually exclusive.

To the OP; where's the "If it wasn't for double standards, they wouldn't have any standards" option?

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I was just trying to string a few together, it does not have to make sense.

Also note this is about the other side, not your side.

Since I count myself as one of "We the People" who stand united... the gov't is the other side imho... both parties and all it's bureaucracy.

I hope and expect that my posting history is thoroughly confusing. Some might think I'm Conservative and others might think I'm Liberal. I'm not attached to a "side." I'm attached to what makes sense to me. So for me, the "other side" constantly changes.

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I'm definately a lefty but when something makes sense it makes sense. I agree with the right on illegal immigration. There are a lot of things I agree with the right on partially, as in the concept but not their implementation. I would agree with corporate tax cuts if all loopholes are gotten rid of! I would agree with a 0% corporate tax rate if Capital gains were taxed as normal income.

iliveonramen said:

I'm definately a lefty but when something makes sense it makes sense. I agree with the right on illegal immigration. There are a lot of things I agree with the right on partially, as in the concept but not their implementation. I would agree with corporate tax cuts if all loopholes are gotten rid of! I would agree with a 0% corporate tax rate if Capital gains were taxed as normal income.

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I'll bet many from the left and right can agree on concepts. It's almost always the implementation that's a sticking point.