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The Irrationality of Vigilant Wisdom?

Is it irrational/bigoted to have a slight wariness of Muslims?

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Teh Internets said:
I don't think any Muslim with bad intentions is going to get past airport security while they are allowed to go to second base with you. Also it seems stupid to go with the same plan twice; it's like robbing a bank, getting caught and then going back with the same exact plan to the same bank. I'm not suspicious of Muslims because I don't think they would choose to attack that way again and get past current security.
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I live in NYC, site of two terrorist attacks by Muslims and many more failed attempts at terrorist attacks, by Muslims.

Do I feel fear or apprehension when a Muslim walks towards me? Nope.

Why should I?
 
Thunder said:
I live in NYC, site of two terrorist attacks by Muslims and many more failed attempts at terrorist attacks, by Muslims.

Do I feel fear or apprehension when a Muslim walks towards me? Nope.

Why should I?
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The answer to why you should be aware is the same answer that it would be for anyone. You don't know them, they could potentially be anyone. If you see a shifty looking white guy walking by you at night you would be stupid to not be alert. The same applies for Muslims, if you see a shifty nervous looking Muslim guy in an airport you should be alert, you don't have to hate him, but you should be aware.
 
Wake said:
I don't trust all Muslims. Likewise, I don't trust all Christians. Same with all Republicans/Democrats, Liberals/Conservatives, etc. To argue against my claim you must have complete faith and trust in those groups. Logic demands I am correct. Do you think it logical to trust all large groups? The focus was never just Muslims. The focus is whether or not it is rational to distrust certain groups---to distrust is to not have 0 trust. As said before, to disagree you must have 0 trust.
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So why do you have to single Muslims out for your poll? Almost every large group of individuals contains some that have done bad things to be vary about, so people should be wary of all groups.

Let's just say that anyone who single a religious group out, where the same applies to every other religious groups, are irrational and bigoted.
 
Teh Internets said:
...The same applies for Muslims, if you see a shifty nervous looking Muslim guy in an airport you should be alert, you don't have to hate him, but you should be aware.
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but this isn't about seeing a nervous, sweating, constantly looking-arond Muslim at an airport with a big backpack.

this is about your every-day, average Muslim-American, walking down the street.

and you know what I feel when I see such a Muslim? pride.

pride that I live in a country and a city where all are welcome, regardless of who they are.
 
Teh Internets said:
The answer to why you should be aware is the same answer that it would be for anyone. You don't know them, they could potentially be anyone. If you see a shifty looking white guy walking by you at night you would be stupid to not be alert. The same applies for Muslims, if you see a shifty nervous looking Muslim guy in an airport you should be alert, you don't have to hate him, but you should be aware.
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So we should be alert to shifty nervous looking people, the descriptive "white" or "Muslim" are totally superfluous. Now, why would someone make a superfluous description as the main point instead? That is the definition of irrational. And when it's focused on a particular religious group, that is the definition of bigotry.
 
Thunder said:
but this isn't about seeing a nervous, sweating, constantly looking-arond Muslim at an airport with a big backpack.

this is about your every-day, average Muslim-American, walking down the street.

and you know what I feel when I see such a Muslim? pride.

pride that I live in a country and a city where all are welcome, regardless of who they are.
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I'm not sure why you would profile an average muslim person either, it doesn't make much sense.
 
Thunder said:
I'm sorry, but what do other threads have to do with this one?
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I'm sorry (though not surprised) you can't figure out how you doing the exact same thing you condemn someone else for is relevant.
 
X Factor said:
I'm sorry (though not surprised) you can't figure out how you doing the exact same thing you condemn someone else for is relevant.
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really?

I suggest that certain religous groups or ethnic groups deserve special treatment and should be feared?
 
Thunder said:
really?

I suggest that certain religous groups or ethnic groups deserve special treatment and should be feared?
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All humans are monkeys and should be suspected as such.
 
Thunder said:
really?

I suggest that certain religous groups or ethnic groups deserve special treatment and should be feared?
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You've said an entire group of people are the same just by virtue of them belonging to that group.
 
This type of fear is completely irrational.
 
MacFarlane said:
And there are how many corporations in the US...and we should fear ALL of them?
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There shouldn't be "fear" because that leads to irrational behavior, but a certain "wariness" of all people (especially corporations) should always be present. So if a company claims their product is safe, I will think the product "purportedly safe" and I will do some checking of my own.
 
EagleAye said:
There shouldn't be "fear" because that leads to irrational behavior, but a certain "wariness" of all people (especially corporations) should always be present. So if a company claims their product is safe, I will think the product "purportedly safe" and I will do some checking of my own.
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Exactly my point! Go Bears.
 
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