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Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

Are you willing to pay higher taxes, and if so, for what?

  • Yes, across the board.

    Votes: 10 15.4%

  • Yes, for infrastructure.

    Votes: 27 41.5%

  • Yes, for education. (K-12)

    Votes: 18 27.7%

  • Yes, for job creation.

    Votes: 16 24.6%

  • Yes, for social programs.

    Votes: 15 23.1%

  • Yes, for medical care.

    Votes: 21 32.3%

  • Yes, for the environment.

    Votes: 16 24.6%

  • Yes, but... not for some particular programs (please elaborate).

    Votes: 8 12.3%

  • No. None. Not for anything at all.

    Votes: 23 35.4%

  • Undecided. Convince me either way.

    Votes: 1 1.5%
  • Total voters
    65
Thunder said:
what does this have to do with the OP?

and yes, I am willing to pay more in taxes, if we add new tax-rates for millionaires.
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why should they pay even higher rates, they are one of the few groups paying more than their objective fair share
 
TurtleDude said:
why should they pay even higher rates, they are one of the few groups paying more than their objective fair share
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why should folks who make between $379,000 and infinity....have the same tax-rate?

looks like a flat-tax for the wealthy, if you ask me.
 
Thunder said:
why should folks who make between $379,000 and infinity....have the same tax-rate?

looks like a flat-tax for the wealthy, if you ask me.
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they should have the same tax rate that you have

then if you want them to pay more you also will have to pay more
 
Thunder said:
that's just ignorant and insane.

no, someone who makes $55 million a year should NOT have the same federal income-tax rate as I do.
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of course not-that would mean you and the rest of the undertaxed can vote up their rates without paying more yourself. If everyone paid the same rate then dem politicians could not pander to people like you promising you more and more handouts paid for by tax increases on only the rich

the rich pay far more taxes than you do even if they pay the same rate yet they get absolutely no additional citizenship benefits. and you bray it is insane they don't pay even more

the insanity is that people like you get the same government services as millionaires due and you demand they pay even more

that is ingrate behavior
 
TurtleDude said:
of course not-that would mean you and the rest of the undertaxed can vote up their rates without paying more yourself. If everyone paid the same rate then dem politicians could not pander to people like you promising you more and more handouts paid for by tax increases on only the rich...
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I get ZERO handouts from the govt.
 
TD- in 1925, during Coolidge's Presidency, we had 23 tax-backets. Today we have only six.

Do you consider Coolidge to have been a "Dem" politician, pandering to the poor with his handouts?
 
Thunder said:
TD- in 1925, during Coolidge's Presidency, we had 23 tax-backets. Today we have only six.

Do you consider Coolidge to have been a "Dem" politician, pandering to the poor with his handouts?
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when we started this country we had zero

that works for me
 
TurtleDude said:
most of our REAL forefathers were not socialists. FDR was
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Our forefathers elected FDR four times for president. Tax rates under Republican presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford were even more progressive than anything proposed by Obama. Do you consider them socialist as well?
 
Catawba said:
Our forefathers elected FDR four times for president. Tax rates under Republican presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford were even more progressive than anything proposed by Obama. Do you consider them socialist as well?
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yes, he considers Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and Coolidge to be Socialists.
 
Catawba said:
Our forefathers elected FDR four times for president. Tax rates under Republican presidents Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford were even more progressive than anything proposed by Obama. Do you consider them socialist as well?
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they were part of the same sick system started by FDR
 
TurtleDude said:
they were part of the same sick system started by FDR
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Turtle, do you have a calendar in your home or office that reads 1787?

Do you have a census count that indicates we have 4 million people?

Does your current US map contain 13 states all on the eastern coast?

Does a 2011 jobs survey of the USA indicate we are a nation of farmers and small local merchants who serve them?

Do the books you read tell you that the USA is a relatively primitive backwater upstart nation isolated from much of the world who barely has heard of us?

You really need to embrace the 21st century and the changes that came with it.

Your sainted founding fathers have been worm food for such a long time now that even those worms have spawned countless generations of their own.
 
TurtleDude said:
they were part of the same sick system started by FDR
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Yes, people bettering their chances at a living wage for full time work, and they supported that sick system that created the strongest middle class in our history.
 
Catawba said:
I am continually astounded by the few on the extreme right that think our forefathers were socialists, as they supported far more progressive tax rates than anything proposed by the Democrats today. The very same forefathers that defeated Nazi Germany and built the strongest middle class in history, the extreme right of today considers socialists.

To me this shows the extreme right perspective has moved closer to fascism than in our past.
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It takes a twisted little mind to think anyone living during WWII was a forefather of any note whatsoever. Trying to make forefathers sound like founding father, hahahahahaha. Pullllleaze
 
American said:
It takes a twisted little mind to think anyone living during WWII was a forefather of any note whatsoever. Trying to make forefathers sound like founding father, hahahahahaha. Pullllleaze
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Actually the term FOREFATHER was used properly by catawba.

Forefather1 - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary. : ancestor 1a. 2. : a person of an earlier period and common heritage
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FDR certainly qualifies as an ancestor, a person from an earlier period of one of common heritage with Americans today.
 
haymarket said:
Turtle, do you have a calendar in your home or office that reads 1787?

Do you have a census count that indicates we have 4 million people?

Does your current US map contain 13 states all on the eastern coast?

Does a 2011 jobs survey of the USA indicate we are a nation of farmers and small local merchants who serve them?

Do the books you read tell you that the USA is a relatively primitive backwater upstart nation isolated from much of the world who barely has heard of us?

You really need to embrace the 21st century and the changes that came with it.

Your sainted founding fathers have been worm food for such a long time now that even those worms have spawned countless generations of their own.
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that is one of the most moronic comments i have seen You constantly bray about how the constitution ultimately allowed even parasites and deadbeats to vote and you act as if that is the proper state of the world and you spew this crap? we don't need progressive income taxes to be a modern nation. we would be better off if subsidizing and encouraging sloth were to disappear.
 
Catawba said:
Yes, people bettering their chances at a living wage for full time work, and they supported that sick system that created the strongest middle class in our history.
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historical gobbledygook and psychobabble The New Deal didn't create the strongest middle class. WWII did
 
American said:
It takes a twisted little mind to think anyone living during WWII was a forefather of any note whatsoever. Trying to make forefathers sound like founding father, hahahahahaha. Pullllleaze
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to the socialists, America didn't exist until Father Franklin D and the New Deal was released upon our once great nation
 
TurtleDude said:
that is one of the most moronic comments i have seen You constantly bray about how the constitution ultimately allowed even parasites and deadbeats to vote and you act as if that is the proper state of the world and you spew this crap? we don't need progressive income taxes to be a modern nation. we would be better off if subsidizing and encouraging sloth were to disappear.
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Sorry but I have never wrote a line advocating that parasites and deadbeats vote. I have always advocated that American citizens vote.

As to the rest, you never answered my series of questions.
 
TurtleDude said:
...You constantly bray about how the constitution ultimately allowed even parasites and deadbeats to vote and you act as if that is the proper state of the world and you spew this crap?....
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no, the Constitution allows all citizens above the age of 18, to vote. It fails to use your hateful & bigoted terms, such as "parasite" and "deadbeat".
 
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