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Does the Government Have the Authority to Separate Hitler from his Parents?

Does the government have the authority to separate Hitler from his parents?

  • Yes, the court made the right decision

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • No, this is a violation of the family's constitutional rights

    Votes: 12 80.0%
  • Total voters
    15
"This is America, they say it's free, you have the right to name your child whatever you want to name your child, no matter what," Heath Campbell said.
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Sounds like the idiot who gets pulled over for DUI and starts screaming, "It's a free country! Show me where in the Bill of Consitution it says I can't drive drunk!"
 
Hitler is a real name. Other people have it, not just the original Adolf that we all know of. Do a directory search and you will find Hitlers in the U.S.

If they are taking away the children just because of the name, then that is an abuse of power and the courts need to become involved. Family services has too much power sometimes.
 
Do they have the authority? I don't know, I haven't a clue what the local laws on this might be. They might have the legal authority to do it if the people have allowed them to make such things illegal. Should they have the authority? Absolutely not. In fact, if there are local laws that make such things legal, those laws need to be changed immediately. If not, the people who did such need to be ousted from office and/or put in jail.

That kind of thing should never be acceptable.
 
SheWolf said:
What about the pursuit of happiness and freedom of these children? I don't think we should enjoy freedom at the expense of our children and I do honestly think that these children's names are going to create negative social situations for them. I am not sure if I really think these kids should be removed, I am leaning towards no... but I'd NEVER argue that the ability to name our children something socially humiliating for them is a symbol of our national freedom.
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When they turn 18, they are welcome to change their names to anything they want. There are all kinds of really stupid things people name their kids and nobody is taking those kids away from their parents.
 
Temporal said:
Hitler is a real name. Other people have it, not just the original Adolf that we all know of. Do a directory search and you will find Hitlers in the U.S.

If they are taking away the children just because of the name, then that is an abuse of power and the courts need to become involved. Family services has too much power sometimes.
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The child's name is "Adolf Hitler <whatever their last name is>". They definitely named him after Adolf Hitler, especially since one of their daughter's middle two names are "Aryan Nation".
 
earthworm said:
Hitler and the examples are far more than "politically incorrect".
Far far more.....
There is a problem in our nation in that people trust not their own government....Government is partially to blame for this.
Partially....
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What in the world are you talking about?
 
As a devout slippery slope theorist I fear the precedent this sets more so than the individual incident.

Do they have the authority? They clearly think they do. Morally/ethically? I'm not so sure.

Do they have the ability to get away with it? You bet'cha.
 
Sig said:
I am inclined to say, emphatically, "No way!" It is a scary thing when the courts can take away your children because they think the names you gave them are politically incorrect.

...on the other hand, what if the parents had named their children "Dickhead" and "Kick Me in the Balls"?
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This is a really good point about where do you draw the line about such a thing.

I was thinking that it is almost certain that most would consider it child abuse if parents named their children "Stupid" or "Retard" or something other derogatory word that would be child abuse if you use those words against a child on a regular basis in many states. I could easily see such parents claiming it was some philosophical attempt to change the meanings of those words, but the majority would still say that doing this is still wrong since any rational adult should realize that having such names would cause a lot of ridicule and almost definitely some self esteem issues due just to having those names.

I think the biggest problem in this case is the names at least sound like they could be legitimate names and have been used separately, in the very least, for children as actual names.
 
SheWolf said:
I don't agree with this whole concept of, let's allow people to name their children whatever they want. I do think that some names could be abusive and provoke shame and humiliation in children.

What if somebody wants to name their kid Little Bastard or Dumbass or adopts a baby from Africa and name it Nigger?

If my parents named me Aryan Nation, I'd ****ing change my name.. but I have to be 18 to legally do so first. I have gone through school with a name I already hate, but it's not as bad as Aryan Nation. It's was always on the class list... everybody sees it and calls me that name. It's hard to keep a name secret, even if you don't go by it.
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Such names do make one wonder if these children are being abused, psychologically if not physically. However, unless there is some evidence of abuse, other than an oddball name, there does not appear to be any rational reason for removing them from their parents.

Frank Zappa named his children Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet, and Diva. I don't recall any of them being removed from the custody of their parents on the basis of bad taste.
 
jamesrage said:
Based on the fact they do not like the child's name I say no. Our president's middle name is the last name of a former brutal middle eastern dictator and I do not see the government trying to kick him out of office over it.
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It's not really comparable. Hussein is a relatively common name in the Muslim world. The parents here seemed like they went out of their way to give their kids ****ty names. I'm not sure if the government has the right to deprive them of custody just for this, I'd have to observe how they actually treat their kids. The story claims no abuse, so it's kinda gray for me right now.
 
StillBallin75 said:
It's not really comparable. Hussein is a relatively common name in the Muslim world. The parents here seemed like they went out of their way to give their kids ****ty names. I'm not sure if the government has the right to deprive them of custody just for this, I'd have to observe how they actually treat their kids. The story claims no abuse, so it's kinda gray for me right now.
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Adolph was a relatively common name in Germany and Austria, also... back in the day. Today, even there it's no longer in common use.
 
I once knew a kid named Harry Sack, if that isn't parental cruelty I don't know what is.
 
roguenuke said:
One of the guys on the ship was named Richard Dick. He lived up to the name quite well.
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On my first job I worked for a guy named Dick, obviously short for Richard. He was a "Jr". He had a 2 yr old son who was a "III". He and his wife called him "Dickie". Really cute kid, always laughing and smiling. But, when they first told me his name, inside I thought to myself, ":doh This kid is going to be in for a very rude surprise his first day of Kindergarten.".
 
non-abusive parents?

no evidence of physical nor mental abuse?

hell no. this was a bad call.
 
This is bull****!

If the name is the problem, then when they tried to name their son Adolf Hitler, they should have got the answer no!

But if the name is accepted, the court can't just turn around and take the children, because now they don't like his name. One of the characteristics of a free developed country is a fair justice system.
 
The government can't take little Hitler from his parents because they don't like the name, even if it is stupid(and hilarious).
 
Sig said:
Such names do make one wonder if these children are being abused, psychologically if not physically. However, unless there is some evidence of abuse, other than an oddball name, there does not appear to be any rational reason for removing them from their parents.

Frank Zappa named his children Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet, and Diva. I don't recall any of them being removed from the custody of their parents on the basis of bad taste.
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All that I am saying is that there should be a limit. Naming your child Moon Unit is a lot different from naming it Dumbass or Nigger. I wouldn't have a problem with the government banning people from naming their children something humiliating to the child. I am one of those people with a name I hate, but my name shouldn't be illegal because it's not like Dumbass, Bastard, or Aryan Nation.

We generally think that parents and people are smart enough to know better, but there is always going to be a dumbass like these people... Maybe it's for social experiment sake, but they are still kids and they deserve better. I honestly cannot think that putting kids in these situations... where their names are so offensive, Wal Mart refuses to write it on their b-day cakes for any amount of money... is a symbol of our freedom.
 
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