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Worst Presidents

Worst American President(s)

  • Obama

    Votes: 10 28.6%

  • The presidents who let 500,000 Americans die needless in the Civil War

    Votes: 8 22.9%

  • Hoover, who turned a recession into the Great Depression

    Votes: 17 48.6%
  • Total voters
    35
DaveFagan said:
Why are you so insistent on trying to re-write history. I thought all Repubs were proud of GWSoupForBrains for generating so much business for the big Military contractors. All the big businesses got a bigger piece of the pie with lots of contracts. I mean bubba, it jus' bidness, don't you think? Remember 9/11 and then Bush and Cheney saying "9/11 and Saddam" repeatedly for the consumption by the massaged by the Media messengers. WMD and Saddam. OBL and Saddam. This history ain't gonna change.
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Where did I rewrite history?

The Iraq war required congress approval. Dems had the majority in the senate, so they obviously share a large part of the blame.

Seems like the only one rewriting history in this case are the partisan hacks claiming this war belonged to one political party….such as yourself.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Hmm - starts with: "...Barack Obama, whether in economic matters, domestic affairs or international relations, has been an abject failure and has severely jeopardized the future of the American people"

No thanks!
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more right wing libertarian nonsense.
 
American said:
Articles: The Worst President Since Before the Civil War

Interesting article, you decide.
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Except for the fact that they use numbers based on when he was elected and not when he took office.

That's dishonest from the get-go. What the **** was he supposed to do in November of 2008 when he wasn't in office?

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

You'll note that by February 2009, unemployment had risen from 6.8% (not 6.7 as they claim in the article) to 8.2%.

Then, in the same damn article, they change the numbers from 6.8% to 7.9% in the very next graph.

Here's reality:

Obama
02/2009 - 8.2%
11/2011 - 9.1%

Increase in unemployment: 11%

Reagan
02/1981 - 7.4%
11/1983 - 8.5%

Increase in unemployment: 15%

Let's look at the record of the president who actually oversaw the collapse of the economy:

Bush 2
02/2001 - 4.2%
11/2003 - 6.0%

Increase in unemployment: 43%

This is what reality is: using the same numbers and same standards to make a comparison. I find it ironic they include Carter (because many consider him the worst, and his policies led to the bad economy Reagan inherited); but completely ignore Bush (when, in reality, many consider HIM the worst, and his policies led to the bad economy Obama inherited).

The entire thing is disingenuous propaganda.

Propaganda may be "interesting". But it never holds up to scrutiny.
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**Numbers comes from data.BLS.gov** link always goes to "data not available, but you can look them up for accuracy.
 
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obvious Child said:
Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "

Let's see who agrees with him.
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Carter is not even close to being our worst President. Not Hoover. Not Truman. Not Clinton. Not Bush. Not Nixon. All of these were pretty bad, but not the worst.

See the list below:

Fifth worst -- Woodrow Wilson
Fourth worst -- Lyndon Johnson
Third worst -- Abraham Lincoln
Second worst -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt
All time worst -- by far -- AMERICA'S GREATEST TRAITOR -- BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
 
ronpaulvoter said:
Carter is not even close to being our worst President. Not Hoover. Not Truman. Not Clinton. Not Bush. Not Nixon. All of these were pretty bad, but not the worst.

See the list below:

Fifth worst -- Woodrow Wilson
Fourth worst -- Lyndon Johnson
Third worst -- Abraham Lincoln
Second worst -- Franklin Delano Roosevelt
All time worst -- by far -- AMERICA'S GREATEST TRAITOR -- BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA
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Nice to know that your list is essentially the opposite of what historians say.
 
obvious Child said:
Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "

Let's see who agrees with him.
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So define "modern history." Unless you consider the 1860's and 1920's-30's to be modern history.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Nice to know that your list is essentially the opposite of what historians say.
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Eh. Nicer that he can judge a presidency before it is even finished. Or, that he can ignore some of the truly greats.
 
Kandahar said:
I would assume he was referring to Lincoln's predecessors, who truly WERE awful presidents: James Buchanan, Franklin Pierce, and Millard Fillmore. I would also include Lincoln's successor, Andrew Johnson, who actively sided with the southern segregationists and helped to pave the way for institutionalized Jim Crow Laws.
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So your answer to what appears the implied question regarding the Civil War presidents is "Everybody but Lincoln"?
 
obvious Child said:
Conservative said "No one can change the reality that Jimmy Carter is smiling these days as Obama will replace him as our worst President in modern history. "

Let's see who agrees with him.
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Depending on how you define "modern", yes absolutely Obama has given Carter a run for his money as the worst president in modern history. Herbert Hoover was president from 1929-1933, hardly within the bounds of most reasonable definitions of "modern", to say nothing of James Buchanan (1857-1861) or Franklin Pierce (1853-1857), to whom I believe the second option is referring.

The real question here is whether or not Obama is a worse president than Carter.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Any one who thinks that Obama is the worst President is a partisan hack with no ability to understand how a determination like this would be made. Generally, it takes about 10 years after a Presidency to fully understand the impact of that administration. Currently, we can not fully assess the administrations of GWB or Obama. Anyone who believes otherwise has no credibility.
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I don't need a bunch of pencil neck, academic pinheads to tell me how I should form an personal opinion. BO's fiscal madness will have a negative impact on this Country for generations to come. Anyone that does not see this has absolutely no credibility and is a partisan hack.
 
Out of those choices, Hoover. Out of all the president's, Lincoln.
 
What a bad poll. The OP should just write his opinion on the topic rather than a poll like this one.
 
Hoover did not have a successful presidency. He was, however, a great man who found himself on the wrong side of history for a myriad of reasons. He was not an alcoholic like Pierce, wishy washy like Carter nor of weak charector like Buchannon. GWB will probably fall in the middle of the pack and it is likely Obama will go no higher. There is hope a Reagan or Lincoln will come along. We can only hope.
 
conservativeguy said:
I don't need a bunch of pencil neck, academic pinheads to tell me how I should form an personal opinion. BO's fiscal madness will have a negative impact on this Country for generations to come. Anyone that does not see this has absolutely no credibility and is a partisan hack.
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You can hold any opinion you want, but your current one, with no logic or evidence base on long term impact, is based on nothing but partisan hackery... as I said.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
You can hold any opinion you want, but your current one, with no logic or evidence base on long term impact, is based on nothing but partisan hackery... as I said.
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As I said.....I do not need anyone to explain to me the amount of damage BO's deficit spending will cause to future generations as they become slaves of the state while they service this fiscal monster. If calling me names makes you feel better about your "head stuck in the sand" opinion, fire away.
 
conservativeguy said:
As I said.....I do not need anyone to explain to me the amount of damage BO's deficit spending will cause to future generations as they become slaves of the state while they service this fiscal monster. If calling me names makes you feel better about your "head stuck in the sand" opinion, fire away.
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And as I implied, unless you can post definitive evidence of what the US will look like in 10 years based in Obama's policies, you've got nothing but your partisanship for your opinion.
 
A partisan poll like this one simply gives insight into the non functional mind that composed it. We are in the middle of the GWShiiteForBrains Great Depression and he doesn't make your list. What a maroon! Get back to unplugging the septic systems. You don't want to give up your day job. Those septic tank diving jobs are hard to find.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
And as I implied, unless you can post definitive evidence of what the US will look like in 10 years based in Obama's policies, you've got nothing but your partisanship for your opinion.
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What evidence do you need to understand the damage BO's fiscal mismanagement will cause? BO just jacked up the US debt by $5 trillion in 3 years. Add another $5 trillion in the next three or four years and we owe $20 trillion to the bondholders. With an effective borrowing rate of 5%, the interest alone will cost a friggin $1 trillion a year. Let me spell that out............. $1,000,000,000,000 a year in INTEREST payments. I am not even touching the massive new costs he has imposed on the energy industry and the looming fiscal disaster we will experience when BOCare starts costing taxpayers hundreds of billions (you do know the BS $500 billion in medicare reimbursement will NEVER take place). He hasn't done a single thing to address the collapsing ponzi scheme known as Social Security ... oops, yes he has, he's starving it of funds. The children alive today will be looking at massive taxes to fund BO's massive borrowing binge.

I am laughing at your requirement I provide definitive evidence of what the US will look like in 10 years? Do you know anyone that can provide definitive evidence of what the US will look like in 10 years? Evidence of the future...really? If I could do that I would be a mega billionaire and not posting comments here.
 
conservativeguy said:
What evidence do you need to understand the damage BO's fiscal mismanagement will cause? BO just jacked up the US debt by $5 trillion in 3 years. Add another $5 trillion in the next three or four years and we owe $20 trillion to the bondholders. With an effective borrowing rate of 5%, the interest alone will cost a friggin $1 trillion a year. Let me spell that out............. $1,000,000,000,000 a year in INTEREST payments. I am not even touching the massive new costs he has imposed on the energy industry and the looming fiscal disaster we will experience when BOCare starts costing taxpayers hundreds of billions (you do know the BS $500 billion in medicare reimbursement will NEVER take place). He hasn't done a single thing to address the collapsing ponzi scheme known as Social Security ... oops, yes he has, he's starving it of funds. The children alive today will be looking at massive taxes to fund BO's massive borrowing binge.

I am laughing at your requirement I provide definitive evidence of what the US will look like in 10 years? Do you know anyone that can provide definitive evidence of what the US will look like in 10 years? Evidence of the future...really? If I could do that I would be a mega billionaire and not posting comments here.
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In bold. Good. Now you understand why your opinion is based on nothing but partisanship... no actual evidence at all. All other Presidents, with the exception of GWB, we can examine their Presidency from an impactual basis. Since we do not know what long term impact Obama's Presidency will have, we cannot... unless your partisanship blinds you to this analysis.
 
What? No Nixon? No G.W. Bush?

Geeeze... here is 45 seconds I'll never get back.
 
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