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Get White Boy Drunk: Is That Racist?

White Boy Drunk: Racist or Not?

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Cactus Jack said:
You think that's them just trying to be "gangstas from the 'hood". You know, just acting cool, rebellious and what not?

If Rick Perry went out on stage and yelled "Wassup all you niggaz?!" do you think everyone would think it was okay? That he was just being hip?
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What does any of this have to do with the fact that 1) People use traditionally racist terms with non-racist intentions AND 2) You're original point that "if it's racist one way, it's racist the other way" is completely wrong?
 
tessaesque said:
A good portion of black people call each other "nigga" quite often. Now, you can argue that "nigga" is different than "nigger", but if a white guy in a suit calls a black guy "nigga" you can bet the black man would scream racism....but when used amongst themselves it isn't so.
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That's an absolute. It depends on the white guy, the black guy and their relationship. I know black people who've been in situations that you've described and the reactions differed.
 
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theplaydrive said:
What does any of this have to do with the fact that 1) People use traditionally racist terms with non-racist intentions AND 2) You're original point that "if it's racist one way, it's racist the other way" is completely wrong?
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It goes directly to it. Is his statement racist? Would you think Perry is cool and hip if he did such a thing? If not, why not?
 
Cactus Jack said:
It goes directly to it. Is his statement racist? Would you think Perry is cool and hip if he did such a thing? If not, why not?
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It actually doesn't. If Perry said it he would either be dumbass who think he's cool or a racist. None of this has anything to do with the fact that 1) People use traditionally racist terms with non-racist intentions AND 2) You're original point that "if it's racist one way, it's racist the other way" is completely wrong.
 
Thunder said:
this is a very pathetic strawman.
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No, it's not. You know that black people are self-loathing when they make fun of each other. You don't know if I am self-loathing if I make fun of a white friend.
 
Thorgasm said:
No, it's not. You know that black people are self-loathing when they make fun of each other. You don't know if I am self-loathing if I make fun of a white friend.
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when black people call each other nigger, insult each other my commenting on their skin tone, these are examples of black self-hatred.

what do you call it....self-love??

I am a Jew, and if another Jew called me a kike, I'd break his jaw.
 
Thorgasm said:
You are the Fucking Idiot of the Century.

It's not self-loathing. They are taking power away from the word when they use it. It is the context it is used in that is important.
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Another absolute. The word can definitely be used by blacks in a self-loathing manner, but it's more often used in a joking matter. Moreover, there's PLENTY of debate within the black community on whether or not use of the term is really "taking power away from the word" with some saying it doesn't so saying that it is in such a dogmatic response to Thunder is doing exactly what you and others are accusing Thunder of doing - telling black people how they should feel.
 
Thunder said:
when black people call each other nigger, insult each other my commenting on their skin tone, these are examples of black self-hatred.

what do you call it....self-love??

I am a Jew, and if another Jew called me a kike, I'd break his jaw.
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I make fun of my friend's skin tone yet you aren't sure if it's self loathing.

What if a female or a child called you a "kike"?
 
Eh, this thread is snowballing. I just hate double standards and "context" semantics.

I'll be back once things settle down a bit.
 
VanceMack said:
Nope...Brother, brutha, bro, and brah have all also been declared as racist when used by whites as well. So...basically...
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US Army doesn't care if we call each-other 'brotha' or any derivative thereof, so no it isn't racist and I can say it free from worry of having an EO complain filed against me.

Nig, on the other hand, will generally get me in trouble in any context.
 
Wake said:
I just hate double standards and "context" semantics.
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In other words, "I'm Wake and since I don't understand that context matters, I'll just call it semantics!"
 
Cactus Jack said:
You think that's them just trying to be "gangstas from the 'hood". You know, just acting cool, rebellious and what not?

If Rick Perry went out on stage and yelled "Wassup all you niggaz?!" do you think everyone would think it was okay? That he was just being hip?
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Actually...without using the 'you niggaz' words, our current president, a very intelligent clean articulate black man, quite often slips into homey talk when addressing certain crowds...doesnt seem to be a big deal. Im waiting for somebody to slip up and shout out "whaddup bitchez!!!"
 
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Wake said:
Eh, this thread is snowballing. I just hate double standards and "context" semantics.

I'll be back once things settle down a bit.
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Yes, the double-standards are hip deep. If I said Hip-Hop Deep, would that be racist? Does it matter if I am black, white or any other race?
 
Wake said:
Eh, this thread is snowballing. I just hate double standards and "context" semantics.

I'll be back once things settle down a bit.
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It's just like how women have slack standards in the military and are somehow entitled in the civilian world to the same hourly even though as a demographic they cost employers a lot more through healthcare benefits, some people are more equal than others. If you have tits or dark skin, you're more likely to get that job or into that collage with a low test score. That's just life.
 
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theplaydrive said:
Another absolute. The word can definitely be used by blacks in a self-loathing manner, but it's more often used in a joking matter. Moreover, there's PLENTY of debate within the black community on whether or not use of the term is really "taking power away from the word" with some saying it doesn't so saying that it is in such a dogmatic response to Thunder is doing exactly what you and others are accusing Thunder of doing - telling black people how they should feel.
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I'm not telling Bill Cosby he shouldn't be upset at the ubiquitous use of the word in the black community. Thunder is speaking in absolutes about it. I am not. Of course black people can still use it in an insulting manner towards each other. That isn't the common context it is used in though.
 
Wake said:
Eh, this thread is snowballing. I just hate double standards and "context" semantics.

I'll be back once things settle down a bit.
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I don't think you know what "snowballing" is. :rofl
 
VanceMack said:
Actually...without using the 'you niggaz' word, our current president, a very intelligent clean articulate black man, quite often slips into homey talk when addressing certain crowds...doesnt seem to be a big deal. Im waiting for somebody to slip up and shout out "whaddup bitchez!!!"
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If the President addressed Congress and sang the chorus to Dr. Dre's "Bitch Ass Niggaz", I'd applaud.....after I picked my ass up off the floor.
 
Thunder said:
are you black? is your friend black?

do you make fun of his skin for being darker than yours?
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No, we are both white. His skin is lighter than mine, which is pretty hard to do.

Why do we have to be black? Is race that important to you? :ssst:
 
Cactus Jack said:
Yes, the double-standards are hip deep. If I said Hip-Hop Deep, would that be racist? Does it matter if I am black, white or any other race?
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You and Wake don't know what a double standard is. You should look up context and study it intently.
 
theplaydrive said:
You and Wake don't know what a double standard is. You should look up context and study it intently.
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Since you are the one making the accusation, isn't it up to you to prove your accusation?
 
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