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Is America arrogant?

Is America arrogant?

  • No, not at all

    Votes: 9 10.1%
  • May be a little

    Votes: 13 14.6%
  • Yes, it is

    Votes: 41 46.1%
  • Oh, very arrogant

    Votes: 20 22.5%
  • I can't decide

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 6.7%

  • Total voters
    89
How exactly is a nation arrogant? Does the nation have it's own conscience?

Is Russia crude? Canada feckless? China all-too-serious?

I'm arrogant, you're arrogant, we're are arrogant. Yes arrogance can be collective.
 
How exactly is a nation arrogant? Does the nation have it's own conscience?

Is Russia crude? Canada feckless? China all-too-serious?

Repeated behaviors, once they become familiar those in close proximity to them, can become an attractive if they are interpreted have positive results, symbolically or materially. Often they spread through an entire population, usually over multiple generations, creating what we know as a "culture." Thus different populations often display different habits and morals.

Granted, you can't characterize every individual as embodying the type associated with the nation they belong to, but it is always a factor in their identity. For example, even if an individual Chinese person wasn't remotely seriously, if the entire body of their people tends towards seriousness, then that individual's relationship to his culture is subversive.

Subversion isn't always a bad thing, if the culture isn't worthwhile.

The United States has several bad habits, among them being, we encourage greed as a valid principle to order your life (rather than as an accessory to a spiritually ordered life that seeks to compress the numbers of its possessions to the fewest possible, while finding no less pleasure in these than it would in the acquisition of many others), the second being that we assert fame, for its own sake, as an ideal, to the expense of moderation and virtue, and thirdly, we deny our faults exist (both personally and as a nation) and don't take any responsibility for improving upon them.

Unsurprisingly, things aren't getting any better for us.
 
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Woah, I didn't say they didn't matter... or at least I didn't mean to :).

Since I'm not the only one who questioned the post I quoted, perhaps you'd be so good as to enlighten us on exactly what it meant.
 
Since I'm not the only one who questioned the post I quoted, perhaps you'd be so good as to enlighten us on exactly what it meant.

I was saying that not everyone in the Nazi party were evil. I was then corrected (Someone said something about the people of Poland), with which I replied, "lol, who were mostly jews :Shrug". I was loling at myself for such an oversight. I'm not seeing how this could be implied that I think the Jewish people didn't matter...
 
I was saying that not everyone in the Nazi party were evil. I was then corrected (Someone said something about the people of Poland), with which I replied, "lol, who were mostly jews :Shrug". I was loling at myself for such an oversight. I'm not seeing how this could be implied that I think the Jewish people didn't matter...

You would be correct that not everyone in the NAZI party were evil. There were around 15 assassination attempts on Hitler's life by NAZIs. One of the prominent attempts is outlined in the movie, Valkyrie.
 
You would be correct that not everyone in the NAZI party were evil. There were around 15 assassination attempts on Hitler's life by NAZIs. One of the prominent attempts is outlined in the movie, Valkyrie.

43 attempts, a lot of which were high ranking officers. (Sorry for the :nerd: I just watched a documentary on it)
 
43 attempts, a lot of which were high ranking officers. (Sorry for the :nerd: I just watched a documentary on it)

Interesting. Then the end of Valkyrie that said there was around 15 attempts was incorrect. 43 attempts is an even better case. Thank you.
 
Interesting. Then the end of Valkyrie that said there was around 15 attempts was incorrect. 43 attempts is an even better case. Thank you.

Yeah, Nat Geo has a documentary on it called something like "The 43 assassination attempts on Hitler"
 
I have been lucky enough to have lived in many countries, the US is the 7th country and one thing seems consistent and that is that most countries are arrogant! Most countries are proud and stubborn and America is just the same way. Maybe the biggest difference between America and other countries I have visted is that many Americans remain a little naive about the rest of the world. In Europe its very common for young people to go on gap years and see a bit of the world and most people in Europe vacation in different countries etc, where as in the states it is still a minority of Americans who own a passport. Most Americans dont leave the country and therefore dont know anything else but America. They never get to see how amazing a high speed rail system is and how efficent it can be or how amazing the autoban is etc. Every countries people have their faults and I think this is Americas!
 
What an arrogant statement! Thanks for keeping us at the top of the list!

Wow, I speak for America. If I had that kind of power do you think people who hate America such as you appear to would have any say ? or even live here anymore?
 
I don't really think America can be deemed arrogant. There are a lot of humble people in America, too. I've been put in my place and humbled irl a few times and it's clear that being humble is much better, imho, than being arrogant.

OK, a fun fact: Did you know that "humble" came from the word "numble" which then became "umble"? Numbles, iirc, were the organs of animals used to make meat pie in the distant past. The term "eat your humble pie" came from the eating of this pauper's dish.
 
That is my theory on all of this. There will come a day when we wont be known as The Great America, land of the free, etc etc. We will still be a country, we just wont be a great country. We will be like England or France...

England isn't a great country? Stood on their own aginst the Axis in WW2 and actually stopped the Germans from launching operation sea lion! Havent been conquered for nearly 1000 years! Backed America up in the war on terror, these are just a few great things about England!...America is still young don't forget that!
Also who calls it the great America?
 
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England isn't a great country? Stood on their own aginst the Axis in WW2 and actually stopped the Germans from launching operation sea lion! Havent been conquered for nearly 1000 years! Backed America up in the war on terror, these are just a few great things about England!...America is still a baby don't forget that!
Also who calls it the great America?

AND they have great cheese and crackers.
 
England isn't a great country? Stood on their own aginst the Axis in WW2 and actually stopped the Germans from launching operation sea lion! Havent been conquered for nearly 1000 years! Backed America up in the war on terror, these are just a few great things about England!...America is still a baby don't forget that!
Also who calls it the great America?

Just about anyone with a brain and a sense of perspective

anyone who was liberated from the German Death Camps

all the Chinese who were doomed to be Japanese slaves or genocide victims

South Korea

all the people who benefited from the BILLIONS we have spent on eradicating AIDS in sub-saharan Africa

Israel

etc
etc
etc
etc
 
Just about anyone with a brain and a sense of perspective

anyone who was liberated from the German Death Camps

all the Chinese who were doomed to be Japanese slaves or genocide victims

South Korea

all the people who benefited from the BILLIONS we have spent on eradicating AIDS in sub-saharan Africa

Israel

etc
etc
etc
etc


oh I forgot America was the only country fighting in World War Two and the Korean War...yawn
 
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Everyhing is relative. Compared with the US, North Korea is about twice as humble.:shock:

And about four times as insane. Kim Jong Il's "Juche" system is responsible for the deaths of millions. Based on the actions of one dictator a plethora of people have died.
 
And about four times as insane. Kim Jong Il's "Juche" system is responsible for the deaths of millions. Based on the actions of one dictator a plethora of people have died.

and too be honest North Koreans have all been brainwashed to think that North Korea is the best and that kim jong is an actual god, sounds pretty arrogant to me!
 
No. We are unique, and we are very patriotic, and more nationalist (in the good fashion, you silly Godwinist fools) than many states. It's not our fault many other countries have neither pride nor interest in their states like we do.
 
No. We are unique, and we are very patriotic, and more nationalist (in the good fashion, you silly Godwinist fools) than many states. It's not our fault many other countries have neither pride nor interest in their states like we do.

this is true to some degree but sometimes America does suffer froma little bit of blind patriotism
 
I have been lucky enough to have lived in many countries, the US is the 7th country and one thing seems consistent and that is that most countries are arrogant! Most countries are proud and stubborn and America is just the same way. Maybe the biggest difference between America and other countries I have visted is that many Americans remain a little naive about the rest of the world. In Europe its very common for young people to go on gap years and see a bit of the world and most people in Europe vacation in different countries etc, where as in the states it is still a minority of Americans who own a passport. Most Americans dont leave the country and therefore dont know anything else but America. They never get to see how amazing a high speed rail system is and how efficent it can be or how amazing the autoban is etc. Every countries people have their faults and I think this is Americas!

That's because there is NOTHING outside this country that I have any need to see. I see no point in high speed rail or the autoban. The things in Europe that would interest me haven't been used in 500+ years (I'm a medieval history affecianado). I can see them just as well in a photo or a book. I especially have no interest in putting money into an economy and society that I abhore on every possible level (socialism). So there's no reason for me to ever leave the USA.
 
That's because there is NOTHING outside this country that I have any need to see. I see no point in high speed rail or the autoban. The things in Europe that would interest me haven't been used in 500+ years (I'm a medieval history affecianado). I can see them just as well in a photo or a book. I especially have no interest in putting money into an economy and society that I abhore on every possible level (socialism). So there's no reason for me to ever leave the USA.


yet you have never left this country so how would you know? Thank you for proving my point


p.s seeing stuff in a book is not the same thing.
 
I think my travels to other countries have been by far the most rewarding experiences of my life.

You cannot understand the essential "humanness" of everyone in the world until you try communicating with someone who doesn't know your language at all, and you still succeed in being understood. The sense of brotherhood is indescribably awesome.
 
U.S. Arrogance Claims the Japanese Prime Minister

"U.S. arrogance has claimed a high-profile victim: the prime minister of Japan.

Yukio Hatoyama has had to tender his resignation after he was caught in a bind between the intransigence of the Obama Administration and the wishes of his own people. Many Japanese have become fed up with a huge U.S. base on the island of Okinawa and want it moved off.

“Nearly 100,000 people staged a protest [in April] on the southern island, demanding that the base be removed,” reports the BBC.

Hell no, we won’t go, replied the Obama Administration, publicly humiliating a longstanding Asian ally and forcing Hatoyama to tearfully exit days after he issued a heartfelt public apology to Okinawans.



The United States refuses to leave Okinawa because it’s a key link in an astonishing chain of 700-plus bases the U.S. possesses in 130 countries around the world. Chalmers Johnson, one of the leading American scholars on this issue, recently published a concise account of the history of Okinawa in the Los Angeles Times. He underlined that the United States occupied Okinawa outright till 1972 and even after that has had sovereignty over the bases and the island’s airspace.

Japanese resentment at the Americans has festered due to a number of reasons."
 
yet you have never left this country so how would you know? Thank you for proving my point

Basic news reporting and current events tells me that Europe is a place that I would never want to visit. It's like DisneyLand for Socialists and Lefties. That in and of itself is enough to make it a place that I have less than no interest in ever seeing or setting foot in. The same with Canada.

p.s seeing stuff in a book is not the same thing.

It's close enough. Especially considering the absolute lack of interest most European countries seem to place on their Medieval history. Were you aware that the Battle of Stamford Bridge, one of the most important battles in English history is marked by a 2' x 18" faded wooden sign, buried in the brush on the side of a dirt trail and NOTHING MORE? Here in the US, it would be a National Landmark, protected by the US Parks Service. There it's an absolute afterthought and nothing more.
 
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