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How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

How much does Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?

  • He could be elected.

    Votes: 17 70.8%

  • He could be nominated but not elected.

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • He could not be nominated.

    Votes: 2 8.3%

  • Who the heck is Mitt Romney?

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • Total voters
    24
Kennedy got elected, despite some people being uncomfortable with his Catholic faith. What will hurt Romney far more is is flip flopping.
 
Luna Tick said:
Kennedy got elected, despite some people being uncomfortable with his Catholic faith. What will hurt Romney far more is is flip flopping.
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True, Perry is in the same boat, who does that leave?
 
The only people that really care are the whacky super religious right
 
I don't think it'll affect it all that much to be honest. A negative? Sure. But not a large one.

To be frank I've seen liberals bring up his religion as a possible issue far, far, far more than any conservative making me wonder how much its a "problem" and how much we're simply being told its a "problem".
 
If the government pushes the concept of "no religion" at every turn (like Christmas trees in public places or mangers at city hall can't happen), then why would anyone worry about an elected officials religion unless it was cannibalism? It's another example of watch the left hand so you can't see what the right hand is doing.
 
Thirty years ago this would have been a big issue. Today? Not so much.

I sense that the media is spending more time thinking about it and trying to stir things up, and the country is giving a big collective yawn.
 
It really depends. How many people vote Republican because Republican is seen as the Christian party? I know a few, and no doubt at least some of those will see Mormonism as a terrible evil thing. But is it a significant number of people? Hopefully most people realize that the religion of someone really doesn't matter when you're voting for president. You're asking them to lead your country made up of people of many different religions, or lack of religion. You're not asking them to give the sermon at your weekly service.
 
vvx said:
It really depends. How many people vote Republican because Republican is seen as the Christian party?
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Isn't it, though?

I know a few, and no doubt at least some of those will see Mormonism as a terrible evil thing. But is it a significant number of people?
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Nope, if they are going to vote Republican, this will not stop them. They may not vote Romney, but they will still, no doubt, vote Republican.

Hopefully most people realize that the religion of someone really doesn't matter when you're voting for president. You're asking them to lead your country made up of people of many different religions, or lack of religion. You're not asking them to give the sermon at your weekly service.
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To me, it matters. If you PM me, I can tell you why, but, I won't do it here as I might "offend" somebody.
 
 
CriticalThought said:
Handling the Mormon issue - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com



This seems to be one of the issues of discussion today so I was curious, how big a deal do you think Mitt Romney's religious faith will be in getting nominated and elected? Some people view the LDS church as a cult and argue that they are not really Christians. Of course, a lot of the same people argue that Obama is a Muslim, so who knows how important their vote really is.

How much does Mitt Romney's Mormon faith hurt his electability?
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His Mormon faith is not an issue. ROMNEYCARE is the big issue. He devised it for Massachucetts even before Obama devised his similar plan. This is proof that Romney is a socialist/communist and has no place in office in a free, capitalist society.
 
ronpaulvoter said:
His Mormon faith is not an issue. ROMNEYCARE is the big issue. He devised it for Massachucetts even before Obama devised his similar plan. This is proof that Romney is a socialist/communist and has no place in office in a free, capitalist society.
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That's the issue for me, although I don't regard him as a socialist/comnunist, just a lost liberal.

Hasn't been mentioned much, but I think that Perry's belief that if we just hold prayer breakfasts each Monday morning we will fix the countries problems is far more an issue.
 
I think being Mormon hurts a Republican candidate more than it would a Democrat candidate. In that there is some fairness in my view. I find the Republicans looking for just the right dogma in a candidate rather than just the right judgment. Also, I think he is the best of the Republican candidates as far as getting a rational president is concerned.
 
OhIsee.Then said:
I think being Mormon hurts a Republican candidate more than it would a Democrat candidate. In that there is some fairness in my view. I find the Republicans looking for just the right dogma in a candidate rather than just the right judgment. Also, I think he is the best of the Republican candidates as far as getting a rational president is concerned.
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The way I see it, 40% of the voters will vote for a democrat regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

40% will vote for a Republican regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

That least the 20% in the middle. The undecided. IMO this group are generally the best informed and knowledgeable, and reserve their decision until much later.
Sadly, I think that most candidates just don't get this, and pander to those whose vote they already have.

I don't think the 20% will care if Romney is Mormon or not as long as he doesn't make it a campaign issue. Kennedy carried this group in far worse times. Those who believe in UHC will vote for Romney. Those who do not will vote against him.
 
VanceMack said:
I think it will hurt him somewhat. I think the hardcore christians like the pastor that introduced Perry would likely not bother voting.
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eh. 1. those people are likely to have severe issues with Obama's Rev Wright-ism, and I would say that rather balances out on top of the fact that 2. they probably also have a high overlap with the "fans of Glenn Beck" demographic; which rather neutralizes the issue.
 
jimbo said:
The way I see it, 40% of the voters will vote for a democrat regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

40% will vote for a Republican regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

That least the 20% in the middle. The undecided. IMO this group are generally the best informed and knowledgeable, and reserve their decision until much later.
Sadly, I think that most candidates just don't get this, and pander to those whose vote they already have.

I don't think the 20% will care if Romney is Mormon or not as long as he doesn't make it a campaign issue. Kennedy carried this group in far worse times. Those who believe in UHC will vote for Romney. Those who do not will vote against him.
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I agree with this, but I found it interesting that in a Reason magazine article a few months ago about independents, a person in the DNC stated the opposite. He felt that independents were the least knowledgeable.

Can we say "biased interest"? :lol:
 
The constitution says that there should be no religious test for any public a office. Most of our founding fathers weren't even christian. They were either atheists or deists. They wouldn't care if romney is or isn't a christian.
 
radcen said:
I agree with this, but I found it interesting that in a Reason magazine article a few months ago about independents, a person in the DNC stated the opposite. He felt that independents were the least knowledgeable.

Can we say "biased interest"? :lol:
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actually I would bet that would be correct. talk to any "undecided" voter a month before an election.

"well, i'm still looking to see where they stand on the issues."

"okay, like what?"

"well, like, the economy, and stuff"

"alright, well, what specifically about the economy"

"well, like, it's important"


and so forth. these people generally aren't independent because they've weighed competing worldview a priori assumptions and found them both wanting in favor of a third set - they are independent because they don't bother to self educate, and thus have no idea which set of a priori assumptions they are closest to.
 
cpwill said:
actually I would bet that would be correct. talk to any "undecided" voter a month before an election.

"well, i'm still looking to see where they stand on the issues."

"okay, like what?"

"well, like, the economy, and stuff"

"alright, well, what specifically about the economy"

"well, like, it's important"


and so forth. these people generally aren't independent because they've weighed competing worldview a priori assumptions and found them both wanting in favor of a third set - they are independent because they don't bother to self educate, and thus have no idea which set of a priori assumptions they are closest to.
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"Independent" does not necessarily equate to "undecided", or uninformed (as the implication goes). On the flip side there are many people still within the parties that really don't know a damn thing either... except what they're told they should believe.
 
99percenter said:
The constitution says that there should be no religious test for any public a office. Most of our founding fathers weren't even christian. They were either atheists or deists. They wouldn't care if romney is or isn't a christian.
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They would be smart enough to know The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are Christians.
 
Most of our founding fathers being atheists or deists, would probably be a bigger deal, were they to run nowadays, then it was back then. They didn't have media dogging everything they did, and the average citizen probably hadn't heard if they were or weren't christian. The GOP is supposed to be a bit worried about loss of some evangelical christian vote with Romney. But, I think most of those folks would likely still vote for him over Obama. I've said before, I'm less concerned about Romney's Mormonism than his flipping on issues.
 
laska said:
They would be smart enough to know The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are Christians.
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Maybe, I guess. Idk. I'm not a christian and don't care if romney is or isn't. I would like him more if he wasn't.
 
jimbo said:
The way I see it, 40% of the voters will vote for a democrat regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

40% will vote for a Republican regardless and their vote cannot be changed.

That least the 20% in the middle. The undecided. IMO this group are generally the best informed and knowledgeable, and reserve their decision until much later.
Sadly, I think that most candidates just don't get this, and pander to those whose vote they already have.

I don't think the 20% will care if Romney is Mormon or not as long as he doesn't make it a campaign issue. Kennedy carried this group in far worse times. Those who believe in UHC will vote for Romney. Those who do not will vote against him.
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Generally I'd agree, but in this Romney is Mormon case, I don’t agree. The 20% middle has fewer of the dogma following voters than the 40%, groups as you divide them up. The far or evangelical right may not have anyone to vote for if then believe one is a Moslem and the other Mormon; and, if they believe one is a Baptist he may get the vote regardless of party.
 
I don't think it matters much at all, but if he gets the nomination, he still has a long way to go to beat Obama....
 
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