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Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

  • Absolutely should fear it

    Votes: 19 31.1%

  • Somewhat fear it

    Votes: 7 11.5%

  • Fear it a little bit

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Fear it a tiny bit

    Votes: 3 4.9%

  • Absolutely nothing to fear

    Votes: 20 32.8%

  • Don't know

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Don't care

    Votes: 6 9.8%

  • Other (explian)

    Votes: 4 6.6%
  • Total voters
    61
winston53660 said:
He's claimed on several occasions to be an Yale educated lawyer.
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Well then I'm kind of right. If he isn't, then he's a liar. If he is, then he's a lawyer therefore a liar.
 
TurtleDude said:
do you mean Must suck. I am not getting schooled by anyone here

I find it hilarious those who fail personal economics 101 pretend to lecture someone like me

This isn't about doling stuff out in executive paychecks BTW

its the envious whining that the rich ought to pay more on dividend income which is nothing more than ranting from those who don't have investment income about those who do
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alexxouellette said:
Thank you for quoting me and then not addressing anything I said it only helps to further demonstrate my argument. You were upset that these people paid no taxes, I explained why and how they are being given no truly unfair advantage. I'm not concerned with taking money from the wealthy but it isn't irrational to believe that taking 10,000 dollars from someone making 25,000 dollars is worse than taking 10,000 dollars from someone making 250,000 dollars a year. Relatively speaking that 10,000 dollars means a lot more to someone with 15,000 dollars left over not including state taxes to live on. Whereas the wealthier individual's money does truly mean less for him, not that it means little, merely that it means less. Lowering anybody's taxes isn't a reality at this point in time, I am more than willing to admit that our country has a spending problem, however amidst the spending we already incur and will continue to incur it is necessary not only to maintain revenue but to increase it. Since the amount is significant it makes more sense to take more from the wealthy who although not uninjured will not be grievously wounded than to bleed the less fortunate among us dry. How am I personally taking something from you, the money benefits you in the same way that it does me, it doesn't go from your pockets to mine.
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You keep on complaining about how much we're complaining..... please make an actual argument, prove to me that it's better for society as a whole, not just a few individuals, that we don't raise taxes on the rich.
 
I'm asking Turtledude again, what is a cleaner, legally speaking (or whatever you mean).


I myself, am working at a toy store while I put myself through at a state college. I am then planning on getting a MA in Urban Planning, either here or at Stanford depending on my grades. I'm going to focus on bringing in businesses that will revitalize and help lower income areas be more prosperous and have lower crime. That's my story.
 
poweRob said:
Well then I'm kind of right. If he isn't, then he's a liar. If he is, then he's a lawyer therefore a liar.
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ah poor poweRob, don't like lawyers. what do you do?
 
the makeout hobo said:
I'm asking Turtledude again, what is a cleaner, legally speaking (or whatever you mean).


I myself, am working at a toy store while I put myself through at a state college. I am then planning on getting a MA in Urban Planning, either here or at Stanford depending on my grades. I'm going to focus on bringing in businesses that will revitalize and help lower income areas be more prosperous and have lower crime. That's my story.
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Stanford-great school-good to shoot high. It was the last school I sent a thanks but no thanks letter to

Maybe I should have gone there-bill Walton would have been in my class I heard (he dropped out I believe after a couple years)
 
TurtleDude said:
Stanford-great school-good to shoot high. It was the last school I sent a thanks but no thanks letter to

Maybe I should have gone there-bill Walton would have been in my class I heard (he dropped out I believe after a couple years)
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So what exactly is a cleaner?
 
the makeout hobo said:
So what exactly is a cleaner?
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a contract hit man:mrgreen: one who cleans up a botched operation usually

watch Natalie Portman's first film for further education
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
This Republican congressman is obviously concerned, Do you feel the the GOP has anything to fear from the 99% Movement?<img src="http://www.debatepolitics.com/attachments/polls/67116558-does-gop-need-fear-99-movement-sprite-6.jpg" attachmentid="67116558" alt="" id="vbattach_67116558" class="previewthumb">
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King is wrong. The 60s hippies never shaped policy.

George Will has it right.

“I wish for the Occupy Wall Street demonstrators a long life and ample publicity, for two reasons. I think they do represent the spirit and intellect of the American left, but also I remember the 1960s. We had four years of demonstrations like this leading up to 1968, when the Nixon-Wallace vote was 57 percent, the country reacting against the demonstrators and the Republicans went on to win five of the next six presidential elections.”
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George Will Occupy Wall Street | George Will Liberals | Video | Mediaite

Long live the Flea Party! May they, the great unwashed, occupy the headlines for the next 13 months.
 
TurtleDude said:
ah poor poweRob, don't like lawyers. what do you do?
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meh... I'll start by not being a liar. Makes life much more palatable. As far as lawyers, easy targets to have fun with. Wish you were one but you seem to be an easy enough target with each and every post.
 
I think the GOP just needs an enemy; whether it is Saddam and imaginary WMDs, Islam, gays, atheists, liberal democrats, Iran, Occupy Wall St., poor people, single mothers, etc.

I think they would be very lost in a world without enemies.
 
the makeout hobo said:
So what exactly is a cleaner?
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1. cleaner

A specialized person who removes incriminating evidence from a crime-scene (usually one involving murder) in order to make the legal consequences of the crime go away.

Cleaners will get rid of evidence like bodies, blood, weapons, fingerprints, and even witnesses in order to hide the proof or notion of the crime -- or, they will 'dress up' the crime-scene to mislead authorities. For example, they could make it appear like a break-in gone bad, an act of self defense, a fire, etc.
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Urban Dictionary: cleaner
 
TurtleDude said:
a contract hit man:mrgreen: one who cleans up a botched operation usually

watch Natalie Portman's first film for further education
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So you are profiting off of the court system, a public good. You are certainly using it much more than I do, should you have to pay more for that?
 
the makeout hobo said:
So you are profiting off of the court system, a public good. You are certainly using it much more than I do, should you have to pay more for that?
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Of course not

but you know that

I perform public services

do you?
 
TurtleDude said:
No you are being dishonest

we have not had that scenario so you cannot possibly claim that at all
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You prove it each time that your bring up the 47% who you feel are paying too little taxes. Denial may work for you but, the middle class doesn't have that luxury.
 
I'm speechless after reading the plot summary because I was unfamiliar with the movie. That is some sick stuff. As Rob says, it appears you are trolling yourself.
 
Ockham said:
If someone else is faster at picking all the apples, that should encourage and provide incentive for you to find a better way, or get quicker yourself. Instead, you're seeking an outside influence to demand no one should be quicker than anyone else and that selling the apples should be regulated. The deficiency is in the slow apple pickers, whining about how unfair it is they have to pay more for the fast guys apples. If you want your own apples... get faster or get smarter.
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Ok, we're not communicating.

Let me give MY perspective on your analogy. Where I personally am coming from. It should actually be helpful.

I can get all the apples I need/want. I'm not apple driven.

But as I sit with my apples I have to watch way too many searching for anything the fast pickers might have missed, finally trading a ridiculous portion of their irreplaceable hours for apples from the fast pickers.

I see FAR too much suffering. FAR to much quiet desperation.

FAR too much of a system that is destroying everything that is beautiful in people in the process of maximizing their output.

A system that considers them a commodity, like a stack of lumber.

And it makes me want to break the fast pickers' legs.

Cuz I'm still not convinced the fast pickers should be able to charge simply for being faster.

To me, there's a difference between success and greed.

And I really can't personally conceive of taking more than I need if doing so would mean someone else had less. I won't put what I want above what somebody else legitimately needs.
 
Frolicking Dinosaurs said:
I'm speechless after reading the plot summary because I was unfamiliar with the movie. That is some sick stuff. As Rob says, it appears you are trolling yourself.
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Don't let him turn you off on the movie with his false teen bravado. It was a good flick.
 
Thrilla said:
I expect people to aspire to greatness, not to be content with scraps.
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Glad you finally got what the nationwide protest is about.
 
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